Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread VI (Don't Read Post 1 & FAQ)

chrismikayla · Post #421 » by **chrismikayla** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 am

So now the CDC is saying obesity and a BMI over 40 is a risk factor. But just BMI can be misleading, because someone 6'1" and 225 is classified obese strictly according to BMI.

Gomagic44 · Post #422 » by **Gomagic44** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:58 am

I don't trust any of this because I'm pretty certain I had or have covid 19. I live in Florida. I was tested last Tuesday and have gotton no results. In the course of a week I could have infected many many many many people. But I'm not even a statistic on the Florida stats. Biggest sickness of my adult life, during a pandemic and even though I work in healthcare they still have no answers for me. So I have no faith whatsoever in our accounting of those infected. None of these models mean crap to me.

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Post #423 » by **bondom34** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:00 am

chrismikayla wrote:So now the CDC is saying obesity and a BMI over 40 is a risk factor. But just BMI can be misleading, because someone 6'1" and 225 is classified obese strictly according to BMI.

If you have a BMI over 40 you've got some other issues.

SactoKingsFan · Post #424 » by **SactoKingsFan** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 am

chrismikayla wrote:So now the CDC is saying obesity and a BMI over 40 is a risk factor. But just BMI can be misleading, because someone 6'1" and 225 is classified obese strictly according to BMI.

6'1" 225 lbs (almost 30 BMI) could be overweight, borderline obese or just athletic with more muscle mass. The message from the CDC specifically states that those with extreme obesity (40+ BMI) are at greater risk. At that point you'd have some other health issues.

spikeslovechild · Post #425 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 am

Meanwhile China is reopening wet markets

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/-scene-british-reporters-say-chinese-markets-again/

spacemonkey · Post #426 » by **spacemonkey** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:59 am

NinjaBro wrote:I was wondering why the death rate keeps going up. This is really scary **** now.

Watch on YouTube

Yeah, this is a good watch. It's not something that is immediately intuitive when you look at numbers.

If the rate of positive testing growth exceeds the rate of death growth, than the death percentage should go down. But since the death percentage is rising, it means the rate of death growth is exceeding the rate of positive testing growth.

lakerz12 · Post #427 » by **lakerz12** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:09 am

Gomagic44 wrote:I don't trust any of this because I'm pretty certain I had or have covid 19. I live in Florida. I was tested last Tuesday and have gotton no results. In the course of a week I could have infected many many many many people. But I'm not even a statistic on the Florida stats. Biggest sickness of my adult life, during a pandemic and even though I work in healthcare they still have no answers for me. So I have no faith whatsoever in our accounting of those infected. None of these models mean crap to me.

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Many people are saying this, which would suggest the mortality rate may in fact be very low.

Post #428 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:34 am

Kemba For Three wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
RoLo wrote:would love if hydroxychloroquine was the solution but lets pump the breaks here. he treated 699 mild patients, as in he treated 699 patients who were not likely needed to be hospitalized or worse. an then he's touting hydroxychloroquine as the cure when a majority of them would have recovered with hot soup and water.

That's huge though. It's a cheap drug.

Can give it to people from doctor clinics as soon as they show symptoms.

Doesn't work for everyone. My folks know of a man in his 70's a few towns away (we're in MA) and he's on a ventilator and probably near death with organ failure. He has covid-19. He doesn't even know how he got it. Grocery store?

I am not close enough to the situation, but none of the experimental drugs helped him I heard today. They do try these things at times and it isn't always a GAME CHANGER.

I wish the news was telling the truth, it doesn't work for EVERYONE. Thats why Dr. Fauci types are not singing about it from the roof tops right now.

Well the drug stops the virus replicating. It doesn't stop the bodies response that has already been triggered by the virus (inflammation in the lungs).

e83pw2oa9hl5f · Post #429 » by **e83pw2oa9hl5f** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:34 am

azcatz11 wrote:I've been avoiding this thread since it gives me a lot of anxiety. Is there news that hot weather kills the virus? Is that confirmed?

No that is not true. Just ask anyone who lives in the Southern Hemisphere. We got it here too.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #430 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:36 am

So, shaking hands as a greeting is officially dead moving forward, right?

I always would give people fist bumps, but I'm going to retire that as well.

LKN · Post #431 » by **LKN** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 am

Bayside wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:I've been avoiding this thread since it gives me a lot of anxiety. Is there news that hot weather kills the virus? Is that confirmed?

No that is not true. Just ask anyone who lives in the Southern Hemisphere. We got it here too.

One thing I wonder about is if hot/humid weather slows down transmission but of course only when you are outside and/or in a non climate conditioned space

We can watch and see if there's a difference between countries that are heavily air conditioned (US - Florida as an example) and non western nations with less air conditioning.

LKN · Post #432 » by **LKN** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:39 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:So, shaking hands as a greeting is officially dead moving forward, right?

I always would give people fist bumps, but I'm going to retire that as well.

Interesting question - if we actually get a vaccine I wonder if all the behavior changes will be gone a year after the vaccine hits.

Childs · Post #433 » by **Childs** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:40 am

bondom34 wrote:
chrismikayla wrote:So now the CDC is saying obesity and a BMI over 40 is a risk factor. But just BMI can be misleading, because someone 6'1" and 225 is classified obese strictly according to BMI.

If you have a BMI over 40 you've got some other issues.

Unless you are jacked

Post #434 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 am

Johnson & Johnson wants to start testing its coronavirus vaccine by September

Pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson plans to begin human clinical trials of its Covid-19 vaccine by September with a goal of the first batches being made available for emergency use authorization by early next year, according to a company announcement released Monday. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-vaccine-johnson-and-johnson-clinical-trial/index.html

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Post #435 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 am

LKN wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
RoLo wrote:would love if hydroxychloroquine was the solution but lets pump the breaks here. he treated 699 mild patients, as in he treated 699 patients who were not likely needed to be hospitalized or worse. an then he's touting hydroxychloroquine as the cure when a majority of them would have recovered with hot soup and water.

That's huge though. It's a cheap drug.

Can give it to people from doctor clinics as soon as they show symptoms.

I'd take anything from that doctor with a huge grain of salt. Anyone who is familiar with Monroe, NY and Kiryas Joel will understand.

Not just this doctor. This drug has had many trials around the world and it makes biological sense.

Post #436 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:43 am

chrismikayla wrote:So now the CDC is saying obesity and a BMI over 40 is a risk factor. But just BMI can be misleading, because someone 6'1" and 225 is classified obese strictly according to BMI.

Yeah posted this a while ago, there was a poorly done study in the UK where they said being overweight was a risk factor. It's not, being morbidly obese is the only risk factor which would be due to the comorbidity of breathing issues that come along with it.

Childs · Post #437 » by **Childs** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:44 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:So, shaking hands as a greeting is officially dead moving forward, right?

I always would give people fist bumps, but I'm going to retire that as well.

Mister Ze · Post #438 » by **Mister Ze** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 am

NinjaBro wrote:I was wondering why the death rate keeps going up. This is really scary **** now.

Watch on YouTube

TLDR?

Post #439 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 am

Pointgod wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:I've been avoiding this thread since it gives me a lot of anxiety. Is there news that hot weather kills the virus? Is that confirmed?

No it’s bull. Don’t trust that and other unverified sources. Stick with mainstream media, actual experts and legitimate organizations.

Actual experts? Do those truly exist when it comes to this virus?

I have heard very little out of them except for wash your hands. The media is eating this up and so are the majority with a camera in their face on tv.

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NBAFan93 · Post #440 » by **NBAFan93** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:55 am

chrismikayla wrote:So now the CDC is saying obesity and a BMI over 40 is a risk factor. But just BMI can be misleading, because someone 6'1" and 225 is classified obese strictly according to BMI.

Well that’s just great - so all of us sitting around in our homes w/ nothing to do but eat and sit on the couch and watch TV cause all the gyms are closed are developing more risk factors. Wonderful.

Maybe the stimulus package should send every household a free exercise bike!