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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1141 » by Spens1 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:58 am

Stanford wrote:Meltzer is fairly credible. He only reports what he's fed. It's just that he reports on a carny ass sport where no one tells the truth.


This, though sometimes he's fed absolute nonsense which is what appears on the show as well.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1142 » by Scott Hall » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:13 am

The difference between Woj and Meltzer is Woj bats nearly .1000 and fact checks all his stuff before
releasing it to the public. How many times has Meltzer had to apologize. Also Meltzers opinions on things
are biased and usually awful WOJ isn't overly opinionated on things other then obvious stuff like the Knicks are a joke.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1143 » by improper » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:41 am

Scott Hall wrote:The difference between Woj and Meltzer is Woj bats nearly .1000 and fact checks all his stuff before
releasing it to the public. How many times has Meltzer had to apologize. Also Meltzers opinions on things
are biased and usually awful WOJ isn't overly opinionated on things other then obvious stuff like the Knicks are a joke.


Woj is super opinionated when he writes columns, and I actually think he's a horrendous columnist.

When it comes to being a beat reporter breaking news, though, he and Shams are the best of the best.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1144 » by Scott Hall » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:38 am

improper wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:The difference between Woj and Meltzer is Woj bats nearly .1000 and fact checks all his stuff before
releasing it to the public. How many times has Meltzer had to apologize. Also Meltzers opinions on things
are biased and usually awful WOJ isn't overly opinionated on things other then obvious stuff like the Knicks are a joke.


Woj is super opinionated when he writes columns, and I actually think he's a horrendous columnist.

When it comes to being a beat reporter breaking news, though, he and Shams are the best of the best.


Woj writes a column? what does he usually say? I know he isn't a hot take or click bait artist like guys like
Stephen A. Smith or Colin Cowturd etc.

Meltzer is completely biased towards anything Japanese Wrestling related and has always hated WCW and WWE even
(when it was good at times in the 80's-early 2000's). He thinks only a certain style or genre of wrestling is 5 star worthy
and other styles or genres that can produce bangers are average at best.

I hate listening to peoples opinions on anything if I know they are biased. I may not like certain guys or athletes or artists
but I won't short change them on their current standing or place in history or give props when they do good.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1145 » by Dominator83 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:41 am

Scott Hall wrote:
improper wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:The difference between Woj and Meltzer is Woj bats nearly .1000 and fact checks all his stuff before
releasing it to the public. How many times has Meltzer had to apologize. Also Meltzers opinions on things
are biased and usually awful WOJ isn't overly opinionated on things other then obvious stuff like the Knicks are a joke.


Woj is super opinionated when he writes columns, and I actually think he's a horrendous columnist.

When it comes to being a beat reporter breaking news, though, he and Shams are the best of the best.


Woj writes a column? what does he usually say? I know he isn't a hot take or click bait artist like guys like
Stephen A. Smith or Colin Cowturd etc.

Meltzer is completely biased towards anything Japanese Wrestling related and has always hated WCW and WWE even
(when it was good at times in the 80's-early 2000's). He thinks only a certain style or genre of wrestling is 5 star worthy
and other styles or genres that can produce bangers are average at best.

I hate listening to peoples opinions on anything if I know they are biased. I may not like certain guys or athletes or artists
but I won't short change them on their current standing or place in history or give props when they do good.

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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1146 » by Stanford » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:54 am

Asuka should be WWE Champion
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1147 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm

Scott Hall wrote:
improper wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:The difference between Woj and Meltzer is Woj bats nearly .1000 and fact checks all his stuff before
releasing it to the public. How many times has Meltzer had to apologize. Also Meltzers opinions on things
are biased and usually awful WOJ isn't overly opinionated on things other then obvious stuff like the Knicks are a joke.


Woj is super opinionated when he writes columns, and I actually think he's a horrendous columnist.

When it comes to being a beat reporter breaking news, though, he and Shams are the best of the best.


Woj writes a column? what does he usually say? I know he isn't a hot take or click bait artist like guys like
Stephen A. Smith or Colin Cowturd etc.

Meltzer is completely biased towards anything Japanese Wrestling related and has always hated WCW and WWE even
(when it was good at times in the 80's-early 2000's). He thinks only a certain style or genre of wrestling is 5 star worthy
and other styles or genres that can produce bangers are average at best.

I hate listening to peoples opinions on anything if I know they are biased. I may not like certain guys or athletes or artists
but I won't short change them on their current standing or place in history or give props when they do good.


It's widely known that Woj trades columns for access. When he writes a column immediately look to see who benefits from it and know that is the pay off so he can be first so often. At least when you have local mouthpieces like Ramona Shelbourne toting the mail for the LA teams you get it. Woj is willing to do that for any team and any agents and it's not hard to see which teams/agents don't play ball with him when you read his opinion stuff.

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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1148 » by improper » Wed Apr 1, 2020 1:45 am

Stanford wrote:Asuka should be WWE Champion


She's a great example of how some people just have IT. She can cut promos in a language most of the fans don't understand and still be captivating.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1149 » by Stanford » Wed Apr 1, 2020 4:51 pm

improper wrote:
Stanford wrote:Asuka should be WWE Champion


She's a great example of how some people just have IT. She can cut promos in a language most of the fans don't understand and still be captivating.


Yeah, her promos are seriously the best. And that stupid dance thing she's been doing is money.

She is so different from the ass kicking killer character that everyone wanted her to be (and insisted on) coming out of NXT. She's goofy and funny and dynamic and charismatic. It will be a huge mistake not to maximize her skills in a championship role.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1150 » by WRau1 » Thu Apr 2, 2020 3:37 am

I love how Asuka can cut a promo and just go completely off the rails but then she hits you with that smile and suddenly it all makes sense. She's so good.
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Post#1151 » by tugs » Sun Apr 5, 2020 2:33 am

Welp, lost the belts. What now for the Empress?
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1152 » by iMoreland » Tue Apr 7, 2020 12:46 am

Bianca needs to be the one to beat Becky, not f****** Shayna
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1153 » by WRau1 » Tue Apr 7, 2020 1:14 am

Bianca, while vastly improved, would still benefit from another year or two in NXT. Her movements are far to robotic, no fluidity to anything she does. Her selling also needs work.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1154 » by heatwillbeback » Tue Apr 7, 2020 2:51 am

Reliance on the Big Show....in 2020......

Yikes.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1155 » by Stanford » Tue Apr 7, 2020 3:27 am

heatwillbeback wrote:Reliance on the Big Show....in 2020......

Yikes.


I really don't think they're relying on Big Show. He has a TV show they want to promote and lost in a crowdless TV match. No big deal, really.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1156 » by heatwillbeback » Tue Apr 7, 2020 4:14 am

Stanford wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Reliance on the Big Show....in 2020......

Yikes.


I really don't think they're relying on Big Show. He has a TV show they want to promote and lost in a crowdless TV match. No big deal, really.


As much as that is true, having the main event match on the Monday following Wrestlemania is a pretty big spot. Using that on Big Show seems kind of pointless, whether it is to promote his Netflix show or not.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1157 » by Picasso » Tue Apr 7, 2020 7:25 pm

Stanford wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Reliance on the Big Show....in 2020......

Yikes.


I really don't think they're relying on Big Show. He has a TV show they want to promote and lost in a crowdless TV match. No big deal, really.


He was there to put Drew over. Which he did. Say what you want. But the big show is reliable and still can put people over greatly. Especially for a Monday night raw show. It wasnt a ppv main event.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1158 » by Ruzious » Tue Apr 7, 2020 7:40 pm

Picasso wrote:
Stanford wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Reliance on the Big Show....in 2020......

Yikes.


I really don't think they're relying on Big Show. He has a TV show they want to promote and lost in a crowdless TV match. No big deal, really.


He was there to put Drew over. Which he did. Say what you want. But the big show is reliable and still can put people over greatly. Especially for a Monday night raw show. It wasnt a ppv main event.

Gotta respect how all of these WWE folks are putting on good shows in these crazy times. The Street Profits basically had 3 straight matches on Raw. Ford is really becoming a star. And tiny Zelina Vega did a nice job of making Bianca Belair look entertaining in her Raw debut.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1159 » by Picasso » Tue Apr 7, 2020 7:52 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Picasso wrote:
Stanford wrote:
I really don't think they're relying on Big Show. He has a TV show they want to promote and lost in a crowdless TV match. No big deal, really.


He was there to put Drew over. Which he did. Say what you want. But the big show is reliable and still can put people over greatly. Especially for a Monday night raw show. It wasnt a ppv main event.

Gotta respect how all of these WWE folks are putting on good shows in these crazy times. The Street Profits basically had 3 straight matches on Raw. Ford is really becoming a star. And tiny Zelina Vega did a nice job of making Bianca Belair look entertaining in her Raw debut.


I must say the talent that is there and available are really stepping up and trying their beat to put on great shows. As great as possible in this time anyway. But some of these guys are carving out their path right now.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1160 » by The_Brecht » Wed Apr 8, 2020 3:46 pm

I'm getting tired of Ford.
It's probably overexposure that leads to that.
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