2020 Draft Thread

[M-C-G]

For those that haven't seen Morrison, 6'2 240, ran a 4.63 which was fine, but ran his 10 yard split in the 98th percentile of LB.

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[Treebeard]

For those that haven't seen Morrison, 6'2 240, ran a 4.63 which was fine, but ran his 10 yard split in the 98th percentile of LB.

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Another set of info on Wilson:https://www.nfl.com/prospects/logan-wilson?id=32195749-4c74-7370-743f-2000a41bbeba

Overview
Ultra-productive three-year team captain with instincts and cover talent to find work as an every-down linebacker. His play recognition, burst and lateral agility help him play faster than his timed speed and his fundamentals as a tackler are as good as you'll find in this draft. Wilson needs more consistency of approach at taking on blocks and it may take him a minute to adjust to NFL game speed. He should be a core special teams member early, but possesses the tangibles and intangibles to become a productive pro as an inside or SAM (strong-side) linebacker.

[Daver]

Wow he sounds pretty good

[Daver]

Wow he sounds pretty good

[Frank Nova]

Re: Murray, this guy seems definition of “packer people “. Seems like a great dude with huge upside, would love to land him if there is a wr run


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Murray is probably a pipe dream as is Queen but only in the sense I wouldn’t hold my breathe thinking we would actually take either in the 1st round. Nothing since Nick Barnett (late 1st ILB) has led me to believe we would do that. Having said that, Murray would be ideal for our team and culture. My original ideal draft was Murray and Aiyuk in rd1 and 2, I’ll still stick by that and add Reagor or Hamler would equally suffice in rd2 in that scenario.

Love Murray he’s a flat out monster. Sideline to sideline speed, tenacious run stuffer, hard hitter, plays with passion, athletic in coverage. He’s a prime time prospect. I kinda like him to Ryan Shazier.

In your opinion does murray bring more to the table than queen by reading lots or reports seems like queen is the better player.....what say you

I’m not sure he necessarily brings more to the table... but when when I watch both tapes, Murray sticks out more to me as the superior player. Not sure if that’s the LSU effect and there were more playmakers around Queen than Murray or what not. Could be a possibility for sure. But in all fairness I’ve seen Murray ranked on big boards higher than Queen by quite a few “experts”. And vice versa so you’re not wrong either. I think it’s pretty fair to rank either 1 ahead of the other depending on what you prefer...

I didn’t get overly caught up in the combine numbers this year so I can honestly say I’d have to go back and look and see how each tested. If I had to guess Queen probably tested better but he’s also some 20lbs lighter than Murray is and is also built more like a strong safety than an every down MLB. Murray has all the physical tools, athletic tools and motor to be on the field for 70+ snaps if need be. Queen more than likely does too but it’s more questionable to me.

If our MLB is asked to “clean up” after the pass rushers like Blake Martinez is claiming he was asked to do, we need a thumper like Murray to eat up blocks and still make plays. Queen seems too much like Martinez where he won’t be able to shed NFL lineman and his best plays will be 3-5yds past the line of scrimmage.

Murray’s ceiling is like a hybrid Shazier/Cj Mosley imo but his floor could be BJ Goodson. Queens ceiling could be Thomas Davis but his floor might be some tweener hybrid that excels more on special teams and can’t make splash plays in the pros.

[Daver]

Thanks for dissecting of both players TBzh i want a thumper. Ray lewis type im sickbof hybrids seems like thats all packers draft someone who plays safety but the packers get a bug up their ass n put him at LB then question why he failed.Im all for a every down LB for once you sold me

[Daver]

Murray is probably a pipe dream as is Queen but only in the sense I wouldn’t hold my breathe thinking we would actually take either in the 1st round. Nothing since Nick Barnett (late 1st ILB) has led me to believe we would do that. Having said that, Murray would be ideal for our team and culture. My original ideal draft was Murray and Aiyuk in rd1 and 2, I’ll still stick by that and add Reagor or Hamler would equally suffice in rd2 in that scenario.

Love Murray he’s a flat out monster. Sideline to sideline speed, tenacious run stuffer, hard hitter, plays with passion, athletic in coverage. He’s a prime time prospect. I kinda like him to Ryan Shazier.

In your opinion does murray bring more to the table than queen by reading lots or reports seems like queen is the better player.....what say you

I’m not sure he necessarily brings more to the table... but when when I watch both tapes, Murray sticks out more to me as the superior player. Not sure if that’s the LSU effect and there were more playmakers around Queen than Murray or what not. Could be a possibility for sure. But in all fairness I’ve seen Murray ranked on big boards higher than Queen by quite a few “experts”. And vice versa so you’re not wrong either. I think it’s pretty fair to rank either 1 ahead of the other depending on what you prefer...

I didn’t get overly caught up in the combine numbers this year so I can honestly say I’d have to go back and look and see how each tested. If I had to guess Queen probably tested better but he’s also some 20lbs lighter than Murray is and is also built more like a strong safety than an every down MLB. Murray has all the physical tools, athletic tools and motor to be on the field for 70+ snaps if need be. Queen more than likely does too but it’s more questionable to me.

If our MLB is asked to “clean up” after the pass rushers like Blake Martinez is claiming he was asked to do, we need a thumper like Murray to eat up blocks and still make plays. Queen seems too much like Martinez where he won’t be able to shed NFL lineman and his best plays will be 3-5yds past the line of scrimmage.

Murray’s ceiling is like a hybrid Shazier/Cj Mosley imo but his floor could be BJ Goodson. Queens ceiling could be Thomas Davis but his floor might be some tweener hybrid that excels more on special teams and can’t make splash plays in the pros.

Question your at pick #23 murray is still there and mims n jefferson both of who have been mentioned as the packers really liking would you show some aggression n trade up or sit there at 29 n keep your fingers crossed.
With rogers getting older n the preverbial SB closing i would think BG would show some golden gonads and kinda go for the gusto n trade up.IMO if you think murray is that stud LB the packers havnt had or mims or jefferson that perfect slot why wouldnt you do it

[Treebeard]

Here's the full (current) list of Packer draft picks for 2020:https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/11/full-list-of-green-bay-packers-picks-in-2020-nfl-draft/

The Green Bay Packers will go into the 2020 NFL Draft with 10 total picks, including one pick in each round and several additional picks on Day 3.

Here is the full list of the Packers’ picks in the 2020 draft:

1. First round, 30th overall
2. Second round, 62nd overall
3. Third round, 94th overall
4. Fourth round, 136th overall
5. Fifth round, 175th overall
6. Sixth round, 192nd overall (from Raiders)
7. Sixth round, 208th overall (from Titans)
8. Sixth round, 209th overall
9. Seventh round, 236th overall (from Browns)
10. Seventh round, 242nd overall (from Ravens)

Could you combine some of the Sixth and/or Seventh rounders to acquire an additional Third or Fourth?

[M-C-G]

Murray is probably a pipe dream as is Queen but only in the sense I wouldn’t hold my breathe thinking we would actually take either in the 1st round. Nothing since Nick Barnett (late 1st ILB) has led me to believe we would do that. Having said that, Murray would be ideal for our team and culture. My original ideal draft was Murray and Aiyuk in rd1 and 2, I’ll still stick by that and add Reagor or Hamler would equally suffice in rd2 in that scenario.

Love Murray he’s a flat out monster. Sideline to sideline speed, tenacious run stuffer, hard hitter, plays with passion, athletic in coverage. He’s a prime time prospect. I kinda like him to Ryan Shazier.

In your opinion does murray bring more to the table than queen by reading lots or reports seems like queen is the better player.....what say you

I didn’t get overly caught up in the combine numbers this year so I can honestly say I’d have to go back and look and see how each tested.
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Murray 6'2 241
Arms 32.75
10 Y 98th percentile
20 shuttle N/A
40 Y 4.52 96th percentile
3 Cone N/A
Vert 38 91st percentile
Broad 10-9 97th percentile

PFF blurb on Murray

If you're looking for pure coverage prowess, Murray
won't be your guy. His feel for zone coverage is still a
work in progress. You rarely see him break on passes or
routes with any sort of anticipation and he also will lose
guys running behind him. He single handedly can shut
down a screen game though or limit any underneath
passing attack. He'll be a weapon on blitzes at the next
level too with some absurd explosiveness.

Queen 6'3 229
Arms 31.625
10 Y 99th percentile
20 N/A
40 Y 4.5 97th percentile
3 Cone N/A
Vert 35 70th percentile
Broad 10-5 92nd percentile

PFF blurb on Queen

The one question left unanswered after watching
Queen's tape at LSU this past season was, 'how the hell
was he not starting earlier?'. After digging more into it,
Coach Ed Orgeron suggested it was his play against the
run - which I get - but that's not near the needle mover
for us here at PFF that play-making ability in coverage is.
Those run defense concerns really only relate to taking
on blockers consistently. He keyed multiple stops
crucial goal-line series in the first quarter against Texas
with his ability to get lateral in a hurry. Queen could still
stand to add some muscle to his frame, but you can't do
too much better in a one season sample to raise your
draft stock

[M-C-G]

Here's the full (current) list of Packer draft picks for 2020:https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/11/full-list-of-green-bay-packers-picks-in-2020-nfl-draft/

The Green Bay Packers will go into the 2020 NFL Draft with 10 total picks, including one pick in each round and several additional picks on Day 3.

Here is the full list of the Packers’ picks in the 2020 draft:

1. First round, 30th overall 620
2. Second round, 62nd overall 284
3. Third round, 94th overall 124
4. Fourth round, 136th overall 38
5. Fifth round, 175th overall 20.2
6. Sixth round, 192nd overall (from Raiders) 13.4
7. Sixth round, 208th overall (from Titans) 7
8. Sixth round, 209th overall 6.6
9. Seventh round, 236th overall (from Browns) 1
10. Seventh round, 242nd overall (from Ravens) 1

Could you combine some of the Sixth and/or Seventh rounders to acquire an additional Third or Fourth?

Using Draft Teks trade value chart, I've updated the value of each pick. Unless you are trading down in the first to pick up some extra picks, I don't think so. We really need to hope there is a team that is looking to move up to grab a QB because they want the extra year of control, then maybe we trade down and throw in some later picks and end up getting a second and a third or something?

https://www.drafttek.com/nfl-trade-value-chart.asp

[Frank Nova]

Appreciate the post MCG. I’d say my eye assessment was fairly accurate?

Anyway, Matt Miller posted new mock... We went Denzel Mims at 30 and Queen fell to KC at 32.

We made Mims the 5th WR taken in the 1st round. Ruggs Jeudy and Lamb went 10-14 and Philly took Jefferson 21st. Also Murray made it to 28 which I thought was pretty significant. Murray and Queen have both been all over the place, same with WR runs. Minus covid19, this is gonna be a very interesting draft. I think we come away with a star player this year, just an optimistic feeling about this class. It’s insanely deep and the NFL will look better in 3-5yrs once all this talent develops.

[Treebeard]

Here's the full (current) list of Packer draft picks for 2020:https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/11/full-list-of-green-bay-packers-picks-in-2020-nfl-draft/

The Green Bay Packers will go into the 2020 NFL Draft with 10 total picks, including one pick in each round and several additional picks on Day 3.

Here is the full list of the Packers’ picks in the 2020 draft:

1. First round, 30th overall 620
2. Second round, 62nd overall 284
3. Third round, 94th overall 124
4. Fourth round, 136th overall 38
5. Fifth round, 175th overall 20.2
6. Sixth round, 192nd overall (from Raiders) 13.4
7. Sixth round, 208th overall (from Titans) 7
8. Sixth round, 209th overall 6.6
9. Seventh round, 236th overall (from Browns) 1
10. Seventh round, 242nd overall (from Ravens) 1

Could you combine some of the Sixth and/or Seventh rounders to acquire an additional Third or Fourth?

Using Draft Teks trade value chart, I've updated the value of each pick. Unless you are trading down in the first to pick up some extra picks, I don't think so. We really need to hope there is a team that is looking to move up to grab a QB because they want the extra year of control, then maybe we trade down and throw in some later picks and end up getting a second and a third or something?

https://www.drafttek.com/nfl-trade-value-chart.asp

I hadn't realized how little value the sixth and seventh rounders have for trade purposes.

[M-C-G]

Here's the full (current) list of Packer draft picks for 2020:https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/11/full-list-of-green-bay-packers-picks-in-2020-nfl-draft/



Could you combine some of the Sixth and/or Seventh rounders to acquire an additional Third or Fourth?

Using Draft Teks trade value chart, I've updated the value of each pick. Unless you are trading down in the first to pick up some extra picks, I don't think so. We really need to hope there is a team that is looking to move up to grab a QB because they want the extra year of control, then maybe we trade down and throw in some later picks and end up getting a second and a third or something?

https://www.drafttek.com/nfl-trade-value-chart.asp

I hadn't realized how little value the sixth and seventh rounders have for trade purposes.

There is probably a direct correlation with value and number of nfl snaps played, if I had to guess

[M-C-G]

Wow he sounds pretty good

For a guy that got labeled an old school, big LB, he put up very solid athletic testing;
10 Y 98th percentile ( I don't know that this is the most important measure for a LB, but it has to be damn close)
20 shuttle 72nd percentile
40 Y 82 percentile
3 cone 71st percentile
vert 34th percentile
Broad jump 79th percentile

I'm not saying this guy would be a direct replacement for Blake on day 1, but I think he is pretty damn close and should be available in the 4th round.

[JayMKE]

Hopefully they don't do something stupid and pick a QB in the 1st, we gotta be all in to try to win now. I know people bring up Rodgers but Rodgers was legitimately a guy who could have went #1 when he fell to us and lightning rarely strikes more than one. Hard pass on Jordan Love.

[M-C-G]

Hopefully they don't do something stupid and pick a QB in the 1st, we gotta be all in to try to win now. I know people bring up Rodgers but Rodgers was legitimately a guy who could have went #1 when he fell to us and lightning rarely strikes more than one. Hard pass on Jordan Love.

Yeah, I am not a fan of taking a QB in 1-3...maybe the 4th or later, you find a guy that slips, or just have incredible physical talents you want to try and mold, but not using high draft capital.

If we are thinking post Rodgers era, best to build the hell out of the defense and OL and become a running team with a slightly above average QB. Odds of hitting a star again at QB, not so good.

[RRyder823]

Hopefully they don't do something stupid and pick a QB in the 1st, we gotta be all in to try to win now. I know people bring up Rodgers but Rodgers was legitimately a guy who could have went #1 when he fell to us and lightning rarely strikes more than one. Hard pass on Jordan Love.

The idea that since they were proactive once and it worked out so its unlikely to happen a 2nd time in a row, and as such shouldnt try again, is about the most internet piece of logic I've seen

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[Treebeard]

If one of the top QB's falls, take him, but I seriously have my doubts that will happen. Unless Rogers has a career-ending injury, then the kid would sit for a couple of years. However, IF Rogers has another significant injury, the Packers are toast and depending on when and how bad that hypothetical injury is, then they even could go into rebuild mode. Tim Boyle ain't carrying this team to the Super Bowl, or even into the playoffs.

I expect they take a LB or WR, with plan "C" being and OL. Only if the conventional wisdom of the mocks gets completely trashed, will one of the top QB's fall to #30

[M-C-G]

Hopefully they don't do something stupid and pick a QB in the 1st, we gotta be all in to try to win now. I know people bring up Rodgers but Rodgers was legitimately a guy who could have went #1 when he fell to us and lightning rarely strikes more than one. Hard pass on Jordan Love.

The idea that since they were proactive once and it worked out so its unlikely to happen a 2nd time in a row, and as such shouldnt try again, is about the most internet piece of logic I've seen

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I think it boils down, for me, this team is lacking serious weapons, serious weapons are available in this draft in the 1-3rd rounds. So you probably are forced with a choice, add to the talent pool outside of QB to give us a chance, or hope like hell a bunch of mid round draft pick guys make a leap.

If they absolutely love a QB that falls in their lap, I'd expect them to draft em, and it might be the right long term play. But if we think we are this close to the super bowl, we better be adding talent, playmaking talent.

[Daver]

Hopefully they don't do something stupid and pick a QB in the 1st, we gotta be all in to try to win now. I know people bring up Rodgers but Rodgers was legitimately a guy who could have went #1 when he fell to us and lightning rarely strikes more than one. Hard pass on Jordan Love.

The idea that since they were proactive once and it worked out so its unlikely to happen a 2nd time in a row, and as such shouldnt try again, is about the most internet piece of logic I've seen

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I think it boils down, for me, this team is lacking serious weapons, serious weapons are available in this draft in the 1-3rd rounds. So you probably are forced with a choice, add to the talent pool outside of QB to give us a chance, or hope like hell a bunch of mid round draft pick guys make a leap.

If they absoluteky love a QB that falls in their lap, I'd expect them to draft em, and it might be the right long term play. But if we think we are this close to the super bowl, we better be adding talent, playmaking talent.

First off thanks for all your info on the LBs very insightful secondly you are spot on i want a upgrade at a O skill position we need to get faster lazard n company is not going to do it.
Ive read enoufh about murray queen n jefferson to know i really want jefferson he seems like a perfect fit in the slot dor the packers fast great route running good hands tough.I want speed n more speed if mims n jefferson are both there im still going with jeffs cause hes the slot guy JMO