2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

[RandlesCornrows]

Gotta keep it real here. I think Obi is on the top of my list now. He would light up MSG with RJ, and Mitch.

Three super athletic young potential star players.

[RHODEY]

Gotta keep it real here. I think Obi is on the top of my list now. He would light up MSG with RJ, and Mitch.

Three super athletic young potential star players.

He's like my favorite non guard pick. Would add a lot of excitement to this team - but even I will admit he doesnt make that much sense for us, unless we get a quality PG to play with him.

[Oscirus]

More I listen to rumors, the more I think that lamelo and wiseman will drop and that Cole Anthony will raise. Shootings at a premium nowadays . The recent influx of centers has made wiseman less appealing and regardless of what one may think of his talent, Lamelo still has work ethic issues and a bad shot.

[blanko]

Coles work ethic has never been in question. Maybe kemba 3/4 inches taller?

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[Tron Carter]

Warriors not high on Ball or Wiseman.

[god shammgod]

even the warriors don't want wiseman. well damn. hi melo.

[HerSports85]

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Well damn. Thought for sure Wiseman would be the pick since they don’t have much scoring inside. But I think they’re going to trade the pick anyway.

[mpharris36]

I havent seen Paul reed play before but I have heard of him. Ill get back to you on that

Just cause this draft lacks star talent is why it's weak imo. This draft is the draft of role players lol

starting/role players with the ability to be 2nd or 3rd best players on a core team if they pan out.

No Zion's, no Luka's, no high end talent. Agree there.

HOW...do you know? Wiseman could be at Zion level. Luka didn't dominate the world before he was drafted. Sort of weird how we talk about not having a Luke in the draft makes it weak...when no one really thought he was going to be that great BEFORE he became great.

This draft could end up being one of the better...There are 4 guys at the top that could be all-stars. We are all just sheep...there is no reason to think that this draft couldn't end up being a very good draft.

Zion is one of the best athletes to ever come in the NBA. Think Larry Johnson with even more hops.

Luka was so highly regarded he was signed as a 13 year old and started playing in the second toughest league in the world by 16. Just because you didn't know much about him he was as close to a LeBron type prodigy overseas.

Many of us here from day one were on Luka for a couple years before he was even drafted. I can safely and assuredly tell you there is no Luka in this draft.

[mpharris36]

even the warriors don't want wiseman. well damn. hi melo.

hmm Anthony Edwards and Deni...hmmmmmmm

[gr3en]

Hayes is an interesting pick that seems to be gaining steam. Hayes scares me because his shot is weird and I don't foresee him as a knock down shooter. With that said, he checks the other boxes. Another concern is the that NY doesn't have a lot of patience and the media aren't kind. Kid seems to have tons of potential

my biggest concern about Hayes is he is a left handed guard who likes to drive to the rim. That’s more or less the way RJ plays. If he was right handed he would be perfect.......

So now we have RJ and Mitch as 1a, players, Frank as a good roleplayer, and Randle who is talented but not a roster fit. You should emphasize Best player available or focus on long term viability.

Left Smefty we need to go out and grab this kid.

Seriously we do..to me he's got the highest ceiling, best overall guard in this draft.

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Reminds me a lot of D'Angelo Russell. If we stay where we're projected to be in the lottery he could be a nice pick up.

[RandlesCornrows]

Gotta keep it real here. I think Obi is on the top of my list now. He would light up MSG with RJ, and Mitch.

Three super athletic young potential star players.

He's like my favorite non guard pick. Would add a lot of excitement to this team - but even I will admit he doesnt make that much sense for us, unless we get a quality PG to play with him.

We have ton of picks. My ideal draft & FA would be to draft Obi Toppin & Tre Jones, sign FVV for 2 years. Then look to draft a PG higher next year if Tre doesn’t show any flashes.

Fred Van Vleet — Tre Jones
Damyean Dotson — Allonzo Trier
R.J. Barrett — Frank Ntilikina
Obi Toppin — Kenny Wooten
Mitchell Robinson — ?????

Oh yeah find a way to deal Randle.

[HEZI]

Just uploaded my Obi Toppin prospect breakdown. Went deep on him, 11 minutes With commentary. He’s so much fun. I hope he ends up with a good pg so so badly.

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I didn't watch these in order, I went straight to your Cole Anthony breakdown. It was good but I just wanted to point out one thing about that Cole vs. Tre Jones matchup and that is that you just forgot to mention that Cole was in foul trouble that game and the main reason Jones kept attacking him and getting to the rim so easy on him was because Cole was like 1 foul away from fouling out and had to play softer defensively. Takes nothing away from Jones, he earned a lot of my respect that game and has become one of my favorite PGs this draft. Another thing is that Cole was only like a couple games in from his return from that injury so there was quite a bit of rust in his game. Overall it was a nice breakdown, will try to get to the rest of them soon.

Thanks for that!

[blanko]

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Well damn. Thought for sure Wiseman would be the pick since they don’t have much scoring inside. But I think they’re going to trade the pick anyway.

Wiseman doesnt fit todays nba.

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[blanko]

Fuq grab cole if he is available, if we drop get nicco.

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[HEZI]

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Well damn. Thought for sure Wiseman would be the pick since they don’t have much scoring inside. But I think they’re going to trade the pick anyway.

Wiseman doesnt fit todays nba.

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Wouldn't say he doesn't fit but it's tough using a very high lotto pick on a rim running big with a really raw skill set. Wiseman is built and plays like a young Dwight Howard and a guy like that just isn't featured much in today's game. He can still be serviceable no doubt but do you target a guy like that with a top 5 pick? Especially if there is a chance you might be able to get somebody like Hassan Whiteside in free agency, Andre Drummond possibly or Christian Wood. There are other centers too who can be had for cheap that can fill the role, there will always be guys like Baynes, Zeller and the likes who a team like the Warriors has always been able to make extremely useful with the way that they play.

[mpharris36]

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Well damn. Thought for sure Wiseman would be the pick since they don’t have much scoring inside. But I think they’re going to trade the pick anyway.

Wiseman doesnt fit todays nba.

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Wouldn't say he doesn't fit but it's tough using a very high lotto pick on a rim running big with a really raw skill set. Wiseman is built and plays like a young Dwight Howard and a guy like that just isn't featured much in today's game. He can still be serviceable no doubt but do you target a guy like that with a top 5 pick? Especially if there is a chance you might be able to get somebody like Hassan Whiteside in free agency, Andre Drummond possibly or Christian Wood. There are other centers too who can be had for cheap that can fill the role, there will always be guys like Baynes, Zeller and the likes who a team like the Warriors has always been able to make extremely useful with the way that they play.

Yeah but what made Dwight so valuable is he probably was the best defensive Center at the time too. His awareness on that end was high end. I get the sense Wiseman is more Whiteside than Dwight on that end. Can get plenty of Blocks but as you can see for the knicks/blazers game early in the year it was a dunk fest for Mitch because Hassan has no awareness on how to defend the P&R.

But I agree with your overall premise that rim running/mostly in the paint bigs isn't the way the current NBA is played. And we already have that rim running/rim protecting big already in Mitch.

[HEZI]

Wiseman doesnt fit todays nba.

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Wouldn't say he doesn't fit but it's tough using a very high lotto pick on a rim running big with a really raw skill set. Wiseman is built and plays like a young Dwight Howard and a guy like that just isn't featured much in today's game. He can still be serviceable no doubt but do you target a guy like that with a top 5 pick? Especially if there is a chance you might be able to get somebody like Hassan Whiteside in free agency, Andre Drummond possibly or Christian Wood. There are other centers too who can be had for cheap that can fill the role, there will always be guys like Baynes, Zeller and the likes who a team like the Warriors has always been able to make extremely useful with the way that they play.

Yeah but what made Dwight so valuable is he probably was the best defensive Center at the time too. His awareness on that end was high end. I get the sense Wiseman is more Whiteside than Dwight on that end. Can get plenty of Blocks but as you can see for the knicks/blazers game early in the year it was a dunk fest for Mitch because Hassan has no awareness on how to defend the P&R.

But I agree with your overall premise that rim running/mostly in the paint bigs isn't the way the current NBA is played. And we already have that rim running/rim protecting big already in Mitch.

I don't get the laziness character from Wiseman like you see with Whiteside. I think Wiseman's activity level and awareness is better. Also, Dwight's era when he was in his peak during his younger years was quite a bit different than today as far as how the game has evolved.

[mpharris36]

Wouldn't say he doesn't fit but it's tough using a very high lotto pick on a rim running big with a really raw skill set. Wiseman is built and plays like a young Dwight Howard and a guy like that just isn't featured much in today's game. He can still be serviceable no doubt but do you target a guy like that with a top 5 pick? Especially if there is a chance you might be able to get somebody like Hassan Whiteside in free agency, Andre Drummond possibly or Christian Wood. There are other centers too who can be had for cheap that can fill the role, there will always be guys like Baynes, Zeller and the likes who a team like the Warriors has always been able to make extremely useful with the way that they play.

Yeah but what made Dwight so valuable is he probably was the best defensive Center at the time too. His awareness on that end was high end. I get the sense Wiseman is more Whiteside than Dwight on that end. Can get plenty of Blocks but as you can see for the knicks/blazers game early in the year it was a dunk fest for Mitch because Hassan has no awareness on how to defend the P&R.

But I agree with your overall premise that rim running/mostly in the paint bigs isn't the way the current NBA is played. And we already have that rim running/rim protecting big already in Mitch.

I don't get the laziness character from Wiseman like you see with Whiteside. I think Wiseman's activity level and awareness is better. Also, Dwight's era when he was in his peak during his younger years was quite a bit different than today as far as how the game has evolved.

true, but the magic were still playing current NBA style. THey had Dwight and surround him with shooters like Rashard Lewis/Ryan Anderson/Hedo Türkoğlu/Courtney Lee/JJ Reddick

then let Jameer Nelson run the P&R with Dwight who also was a defensive stone wall for that team.

[3toheadmelo]

sources told Connor Letourneau of the San Francisco Chronicle.




sources told Connor Letourneau of the San Francisco Chronicle.








sources told Connor Letourneau of the San Francisco Chronicle.










sources told Connor Letourneau of the San Francisco Chronicle.













sources told Connor Letourneau of the San Francisco Chronicle.

[HEZI]

Yeah but what made Dwight so valuable is he probably was the best defensive Center at the time too. His awareness on that end was high end. I get the sense Wiseman is more Whiteside than Dwight on that end. Can get plenty of Blocks but as you can see for the knicks/blazers game early in the year it was a dunk fest for Mitch because Hassan has no awareness on how to defend the P&R.

But I agree with your overall premise that rim running/mostly in the paint bigs isn't the way the current NBA is played. And we already have that rim running/rim protecting big already in Mitch.

I don't get the laziness character from Wiseman like you see with Whiteside. I think Wiseman's activity level and awareness is better. Also, Dwight's era when he was in his peak during his younger years was quite a bit different than today as far as how the game has evolved.

true, but the magic were still playing current NBA style. THey had Dwight and surround him with shooters like Rashard Lewis/Ryan Anderson/Hedo Türkoğlu/Courtney Lee/JJ Reddick

then let Jameer Nelson run the P&R with Dwight who also was a defensive stone wall for that team.

Yeah but he was on that team, he wasn't defending it. There were less than a handful of teams who played like that, I remember the Suns and then the Magic but there weren't many others.