2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

[jvsimonetti0514]

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reading stuff like this makes me want to draft him even more. Being dragged all over the world by his crazy old man really gave him some character.

My personal take is that folks seem dead set on making LaMelo into this villain character.

They are so eager to jump on every weakness, every little thing that seems to be out of place, anything that is said, implied or rumored that is negative becomes fact and is blown up...all to try to take the kid down a notch. Not sure why. Cause he's a Ball? Cause he comes off as arrogant? This isn't the Boy Scouts or a Miss Congeniality Contest. Cause he has weaknesses to his game? Everyone of these freaking guys do. That's why folks are saying that this draft doesn't have a Zion like (or even Ja like) player at the top.

But stuff like this? They'll ignore and rationalize away cause it doesn't fit the Ball narrative as this selfish, arrogant, lazy prick (and a near Anti-Christ like personality).

It's crazy.

It's because they hate his father and took half court shots as a 15 year old. That's pretty much what it comes down too. Lavar believed in his sons and tried to turn them into superstars. Too bad he didn't make better shoes, he woulda succeeded.

[mpharris36]

Mitch isn't a starting big right now. He can't even keep a guy like Taj Gibson on the bench but I still don't see Wiseman as a priority especially in a guard and wing deep draft when the Knicks have holes in so many other areas particularly at guard

I think we all know that is to appease Randle.

That aint it

sure it is.

[moocow007]

Not sure if posted so posting. A guy that I really do like and think will do well in the right situation in the NBA.

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His explosiveness is absolutely elite. He's super athletic (probably one of the best in college basketball), he's strong like a bull, very fluid with either hand around the basket (floaters, finger rolls, dunks), has a quick shot from 3, elite hang time to adjust his shot mid air, defends the passing lane very well, can hold his position inside on both sides of the ball, rebounds. He does things that you see only the top players in the NBA do.

There is a belief that had the NCAA season not been shutdown essentially he would have been a candidate to skyrocket up the draft boards come tournament time. As it is he probably won't be around by the Clippers pick. If he is, I'd be seriously looking at taking him. I'd also consider trading up a bit to get him if I'm not comfortable he'd be around at 27 or whatever.

[Zenzibar]

Not sure if posted so posting. A guy that I really do like and think will do well in the right situation in the NBA.

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His explosiveness is absolutely elite. He's super athletic (probably one of the best in college basketball), he's strong like a bull, very fluid with either hand around the basket (floaters, finger rolls, dunks), has a quick shot from 3, elite hang time to adjust his shot mid air, defends the passing lane very well, can hold his position inside on both sides of the ball, rebounds. He does things that you see only the top players in the NBA do.

There is a belief that had the NCAA season not been shutdown essentially he would have been a candidate to skyrocket up the draft boards come tournament time. As it is he probably won't be around by the Clippers pick. If he is, I'd be seriously looking at taking him. I'd also consider trading up a bit to get him if I'm not comfortable he'd be around at 27 or whatever.

WOW! First I've seen this..

If we land pass 4 or 5, this is my new guy..

Call me crazy, but Cassius Stanley reminds me of this guy when he was at North Carolina:

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Also, what I noticed is how GOOD Tre Jones is at passing the rock....hmmm. This kid will be a steal, no doubt about it.

[SARGO127]

Lamelo is the pick if we are lucky.

Option B should be Haliburton.

[Zenzibar]

Not sure if posted so posting. A guy that I really do like and think will do well in the right situation in the NBA.

Watch on YouTube

His explosiveness is absolutely elite. He's super athletic (probably one of the best in college basketball), he's strong like a bull, very fluid with either hand around the basket (floaters, finger rolls, dunks), has a quick shot from 3, elite hang time to adjust his shot mid air, defends the passing lane very well, can hold his position inside on both sides of the ball, rebounds. He does things that you see only the top players in the NBA do.

There is a belief that had the NCAA season not been shutdown essentially he would have been a candidate to skyrocket up the draft boards come tournament time. As it is he probably won't be around by the Clippers pick. If he is, I'd be seriously looking at taking him. I'd also consider trading up a bit to get him if I'm not comfortable he'd be around at 27 or whatever.

Digging for some tape, it seems that Cassius Stanley has been around for a minute.

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The Ringer:

..... (one of) the best athletes in the country. Stanley (6-foot-6 and 193 pounds) broke the vertical leap record set at Duke by Zion last season. The sheer power of these dunks is frightening:

Smelling Donovan Mitchell 2.0

[RHODEY]

Not sure if posted so posting. A guy that I really do like and think will do well in the right situation in the NBA.

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His explosiveness is absolutely elite. He's super athletic (probably one of the best in college basketball), he's strong like a bull, very fluid with either hand around the basket (floaters, finger rolls, dunks), has a quick shot from 3, elite hang time to adjust his shot mid air, defends the passing lane very well, can hold his position inside on both sides of the ball, rebounds. He does things that you see only the top players in the NBA do.

There is a belief that had the NCAA season not been shutdown essentially he would have been a candidate to skyrocket up the draft boards come tournament time. As it is he probably won't be around by the Clippers pick. If he is, I'd be seriously looking at taking him. I'd also consider trading up a bit to get him if I'm not comfortable he'd be around at 27 or whatever.

This is an excellent find Moocow, the kid looks awesome.

Seem like the perennial potential steal pick normally made by a team like Toronto or Miami....

[RHODEY]

Not sure if posted so posting. A guy that I really do like and think will do well in the right situation in the NBA.

Watch on YouTube

His explosiveness is absolutely elite. He's super athletic (probably one of the best in college basketball), he's strong like a bull, very fluid with either hand around the basket (floaters, finger rolls, dunks), has a quick shot from 3, elite hang time to adjust his shot mid air, defends the passing lane very well, can hold his position inside on both sides of the ball, rebounds. He does things that you see only the top players in the NBA do.

There is a belief that had the NCAA season not been shutdown essentially he would have been a candidate to skyrocket up the draft boards come tournament time. As it is he probably won't be around by the Clippers pick. If he is, I'd be seriously looking at taking him. I'd also consider trading up a bit to get him if I'm not comfortable he'd be around at 27 or whatever.

WOW! First I've seen this..

If we land pass 4 or 5, this is my new guy..

Call me crazy, but Cassius Stanley reminds me of this guy when he was at North Carolina:

Watch on YouTube

Also, what I noticed is how GOOD Tre Jones is at passing the rock....hmmm. This kid will be a steal, no doubt about it.

Hey I tell you what, those highlights look better than Edwards to me...I bet this is who Golden state really wants.
Here's some more Intel...

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2019/08/05/cassius-stanley-2020-nba-mock-draft-duke-blue-devils/

Perhaps it is his smaller build for his 6-foot-5 frame considering 247 Sports lists him at 180 pounds that has prevented him from appearing on mock drafts. However, recent reports indicate that he has put on 20 pounds during the recent offseason.

He is also not known for a fully developed jump shot, though he was far from shabby at 9-for-18 (50.0 percent) on the prep circuit last season. Stanley shot 2-for-5 (40.0 percent) from long range during the Jordan Brand Classic.

Arguably the biggest knock on the prospect is that Stanley is one of the older incoming freshmen in the NCAA. But that may also work in his favor when it comes to his NBA readiness.

[HEZI]

There's nothing special about Stanley. I'd be careful hyping him up. He gives me Hamidou Diallo vibes.

[RHODEY]

There's nothing special about Stanley. I'd be careful hyping him up. He gives me Hamidou Diallo vibes.

Im no NBA scout but the eye test tells me he has a much better feel for the game on both sides of the ball than Hamidou Diallo.

[knickstape21]

There's nothing special about Stanley. I'd be careful hyping him up. He gives me Hamidou Diallo vibes.

More Monk than Diallo, but Stanley’s shot is a major work in progress.

Seen almost every Duke game. Biggest thing to me is he’d disappear a little too much and then do something real nice and you’d say “more of that man!”

Would definitely take a chance on him at 27. One of the most athletic players in the draft that does play really hard.

[jvsimonetti0514]

I think Gerald Green is a good comp for Stanley. Maybe he can develop into an Kelly Oubre type?

[knickstape21]

I think Gerald Green is a good comp for Stanley. Maybe he can develop into an Kelly Oubre type?

Really nice comp!

[Zenzibar]

There's nothing special about Stanley. I'd be careful hyping him up. He gives me Hamidou Diallo vibes.

More Monk than Diallo, but Stanley’s shot is a major work in progress.

Seen almost every Duke game. Biggest thing to me is he’d disappear a little too much and then do something real nice and you’d say “more of that man!”

Would definitely take a chance on him at 27. One of the most athletic players in the draft that does play really hard.

Don't pre-judge too much, this kid Cassius is really good. Most would run to read pre-draft evaluation, but many are projections.

Remember this?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/

With that said, Mitchell was a very streaky shooter in his time in college, due to his less than stellar shot-selection. He has a tendency to settle for tough, contested pull-ups with a hand in his face a lot more frequently than you might hope, partially due to his lack of polish as a slasher, but also because of his average decision making skills. While he can make some of these attempts, at times in highlight reel fashion, this is a difficult way to make a living and something that dragged down his overall offensive efficiency significantly all season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/ ©DraftExpress


1. LaMelo, Cassius Stanly
2. Obi, Tre Young

[knickstape21]

There's nothing special about Stanley. I'd be careful hyping him up. He gives me Hamidou Diallo vibes.

More Monk than Diallo, but Stanley’s shot is a major work in progress.

Seen almost every Duke game. Biggest thing to me is he’d disappear a little too much and then do something real nice and you’d say “more of that man!”

Would definitely take a chance on him at 27. One of the most athletic players in the draft that does play really hard.

Don't pre-judge too much, this kid Cassius is really good. Most would run to read pre-draft evaluation, but many are projections.

Remember this?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/

With that said, Mitchell was a very streaky shooter in his time in college, due to his less than stellar shot-selection. He has a tendency to settle for tough, contested pull-ups with a hand in his face a lot more frequently than you might hope, partially due to his lack of polish as a slasher, but also because of his average decision making skills. While he can make some of these attempts, at times in highlight reel fashion, this is a difficult way to make a living and something that dragged down his overall offensive efficiency significantly all season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/ ©DraftExpress


1. LaMelo, Cassius Stanly
2. Obi, Tre Young

Haha dude you just said this is the first time you’ve seen Stanley!

Plus I was probably the biggest Donovan Mitchell supporter on the board at the time sooooo...

Stanley would be a solid choice at 27, no doubt. Room to grow and crazy athlete. Sometimes he hangs in the air for seconds it’s crazy to see.

[Zenzibar]

More Monk than Diallo, but Stanley’s shot is a major work in progress.

Seen almost every Duke game. Biggest thing to me is he’d disappear a little too much and then do something real nice and you’d say “more of that man!”

Would definitely take a chance on him at 27. One of the most athletic players in the draft that does play really hard.

Don't pre-judge too much, this kid Cassius is really good. Most would run to read pre-draft evaluation, but many are projections.

Remember this?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/

With that said, Mitchell was a very streaky shooter in his time in college, due to his less than stellar shot-selection. He has a tendency to settle for tough, contested pull-ups with a hand in his face a lot more frequently than you might hope, partially due to his lack of polish as a slasher, but also because of his average decision making skills. While he can make some of these attempts, at times in highlight reel fashion, this is a difficult way to make a living and something that dragged down his overall offensive efficiency significantly all season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/ ©DraftExpress


1. LaMelo, Cassius Stanly
2. Obi, Tre Young

Haha dude you just said this is the first time you’ve seen Stanley!

Plus I was probably the biggest Donovan Mitchell supporter on the board at the time sooooo...

Stanley would be a solid choice at 27, no doubt. Room to grow and crazy athlete. Sometimes he hangs in the air for seconds it’s crazy to see.

It is my first time seeing Cassius videos, but TBH equally so the other picks, like many posters here.

To be totally honest, on vids alone Cassius looks much better than Haliburton who many here are enthralled with, not me.

[Oscirus]

Sam Vecenie released a new big board...Ball #1 with the highest upside...Agree with that take

Having said that, if Ball reaches his ceiling, he has the most potential to be an absolute difference-maker. He's the one with the most upside. He plays a critical position of value that is tough to find as a lead guard. Simply put, in terms of positional value, there is not a center worth taking at No. 1 overall in this draft. Due to how easy it is to find those players on the market, the only centers who should be taken at No. 1 are those who have a high likelihood of being All-NBA representatives. I don't really believe Wiseman is that guy. And as you go up the positional spectrum, defensive value becomes more important. Toppin doesn't quite meet that defensive threshold for me, barring a couple of teams potentially winning the lottery. Avdija and Killian Hayes aren't quite athletic enough to be counted on to be creators at a high level, and creators are by far the most important players you can get in today's NBA.

Wait...I thought shooters were.

Its almost as if you didn't watch the last draft when people were severely reaching for shooters. Playmakers (especially ones that don't play defense) are good and all, but we at the point when we need shooters at our other positions.

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