Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread VI (Don't Read Post 1 & FAQ)

[Pharmcat]

In fairness, he sent the letter to the higher ups at the same time he leaked it to the Chronicle. The Navy has acted on testing and keeping those infected sailors at Guam in isolation. As a captain I understand his concerns but you cannot send a letter to the ones that make decisions above you and then mail the same letter out to news publications as if the Navy is not reacting to the request. He lost some confidence there.

I get why this is happening. He almost certainly knew the consequences of doing this and acted to protect his men; that's pretty amazing.

Especially considering being the captain of a carrier is a plum job which likely means you are marked for advancement.

Understand your opinion but this is the Navy. His position is serious and he needs to go through the proper channels. Last thing we need is to announce to the world our defenses confidential and/or privileged information. What he did in my opinion is the opposite of a leader.

No one is attacking us anytime soon because one ship is infected with covid

[BadMofoPimp]

The rest of the world was pretty much as unprepared as the USA has been. I blame China's disinformation, not our government for our unpreparedness. As far as our government, they were focused in a battle of impeachment from Both Sides as a high priority during the initial stages of Coronavirus.

I wonder what our Scientists with the CDC was thinking from November thru February. Because, they should have made this a priority for our Politicians to address than blaming the Politicians themselves.

Anyways, in other news, I just read this article on yahoo regarding China being more complicit in the Virus. May be conspiracy, but is a great read on countries communications regarding bioweapons. Kind of wierd that a Chinese person was caught trying to bring virus's into USA labeled "Antibodies" two months before Coronavirus.


https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html

Focus on impeachment ,so there must have been 0 campaign rallies and 0 golf trips during that time, right ?

I guess you misread, I said "BOTH SIDES."

[Pharmcat]

CNN is like the TMZ of news I can't take anything they promote as fact. There will always be more sides to the story besides these guys opinions. Same with Foxnews.

There are in fact not two sides to every story.

Maybe, not every story. But, for CNN, they only "promote" one side to every story. Their ratings are at the bottom of most categories because of their bias. CBS ain't bad and I been digging Skynews lately.

If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?

[Pharmcat]

The rest of the world was pretty much as unprepared as the USA has been. I blame China's disinformation, not our government for our unpreparedness. As far as our government, they were focused in a battle of impeachment from Both Sides as a high priority during the initial stages of Coronavirus.

I wonder what our Scientists with the CDC was thinking from November thru February. Because, they should have made this a priority for our Politicians to address than blaming the Politicians themselves.

Anyways, in other news, I just read this article on yahoo regarding China being more complicit in the Virus. May be conspiracy, but is a great read on countries communications regarding bioweapons. Kind of wierd that a Chinese person was caught trying to bring virus's into USA labeled "Antibodies" two months before Coronavirus.


https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html

Focus on impeachment ,so there must have been 0 campaign rallies and 0 golf trips during that time, right ?

I guess you misread, I said "BOTH SIDES."

I just asked a question feel free to answer it

[BadMofoPimp]

There are in fact not two sides to every story.

Maybe, not every story. But, for CNN, they only "promote" one side to every story. Their ratings are at the bottom of most categories because of their bias. CBS ain't bad and I been digging Skynews lately.

If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?

They needed someone for their people to attack, lol. Besides, Foxnew does the same exact thing by having Liberals on their shows. Does that make you like Foxnews a little more now?

Besides, CNN gets less than 700k viewers a day and gets beat by Home Shopping network on some days. People may have gotten tired of watching non-stop partisan attacks in which their news casters are so biased that they are speaking only opinions with little facts anymore.

Now, lets get back to Virus news.

[thelead]

I believe some of what they said in there. There are a whole bunch of people in government that are complicit in our lack of preparedness, not just the President who is definitely to blame as well as probably the entire congress as well. At least not until the Virus could be used as a political tool of attacks on each other.

Seriously, if you want to discuss politics, politicalforum is the best out there because people can blast each other there from both sides and most are lefties. I am there all the time. Still, good stuff to debate because we can get banned here.

Simple yes or no: You don’t think it’s crazy that the governor of GA says that he just learned that asymptomatic carriers can spread the disease?

That is not a political question.

Yes. Because I read a month ago that a man in China got on the back of a bus and 17 people got infected on that bus. Some were 4.5 meters away at the front of the bus and didn't even get close to the guy. But, politicians like many celebrities and athletes live life in a bubble.

A politician needs to be held to a much higher standard than a celebrity. It’s not a celebrity’s job to keep the population safe. You knew it months ago, we all did. Some thought it was a political game and lost. They should be held accountable. But that’s political and we don’t need to go there in this thread.

[Pharmcat]

The rest of the world was pretty much as unprepared as the USA has been. I blame China's disinformation, not our government for our unpreparedness. As far as our government, they were focused in a battle of impeachment from Both Sides as a high priority during the initial stages of Coronavirus.

I wonder what our Scientists with the CDC was thinking from November thru February. Because, they should have made this a priority for our Politicians to address than blaming the Politicians themselves.

Anyways, in other news, I just read this article on yahoo regarding China being more complicit in the Virus. May be conspiracy, but is a great read on countries communications regarding bioweapons. Kind of wierd that a Chinese person was caught trying to bring virus's into USA labeled "Antibodies" two months before Coronavirus.


https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html

This is mostly nonsense.

US intelligence was well aware the Chinese were lying as early as January and the administration was warned multiple times.

I'm not Chinese; I don't have any influence over their government. I do pay a lot of taxes that pay for things like our intelligence services which are supposedly to protect us from international threats. It's outrageous that their warnings were ignored.

The CDC was tracking it also.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Larry Kudlow and Kelly Anne told us it was contained , what happened to that?

Or 15 cases going to 0

We pay so much in taxes but the current administration failed us all .

[GordanFreeman]

Wife has a friend in Illinois who lives with her mother (who has serious lung cancer). She's symptomatic for COVID-19 and they refused to run her test because she hasn't been in contact with anyone who was infected.... even after pleading with them because of her mom's lung cancer.


I've also heard a couple of stories like this from Florida.


At this point if you need to be tested you should just tell them you've been in contact with someone who is infected. Make up a co-worker or something

I can't believe the news channels/internet showed everybody at the beaches in Florida? So what? Their outside in the wide open, Yes there was a lot of people but they not on top of each other unless they with their family/friends. Florida is argurably the best US state to live in and our beaches are arguarably the best. Go Florida!

Hmm not sure if serious.

[Pharmcat]

Maybe, not every story. But, for CNN, they only "promote" one side to every story. Their ratings are at the bottom of most categories because of their bias. CBS ain't bad and I been digging Skynews lately.

If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?

They needed someone for their people to attack.

So they do show both sides , so much for a bias. They would've kept bringing him on but he turned out to be an apparent Nazi supporter (surprise surprise )

[thelead]

Wife has a friend in Illinois who lives with her mother (who has serious lung cancer). She's symptomatic for COVID-19 and they refused to run her test because she hasn't been in contact with anyone who was infected.... even after pleading with them because of her mom's lung cancer.


I've also heard a couple of stories like this from Florida.


At this point if you need to be tested you should just tell them you've been in contact with someone who is infected. Make up a co-worker or something

I can't believe the news channels/internet showed everybody at the beaches in Florida? So what? Their outside in the wide open, Yes there was a lot of people but they not on top of each other unless they with their family/friends. Florida is argurably the best US state to live in and our beaches are arguarably the best. Go Florida!

Hmm not sure if serious.

He is and is dangerous with some of what he posts. He apparently knows more than the doctor that Donald Trump listens to.

[BadMofoPimp]

If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?

They needed someone for their people to attack.

So they do show both sides , so much for a bias. They would've kept bringing him on but he turned out to be an apparent Nazi supporter (surprise surprise )

To be honest, never heard of the guy because I hate CNN, MSNBC AND FOXNEWS. They are all crap news stations to me but promote hate for anyone that doesn't agree with them.

[Ayt]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 3 Patients.

“It’s a joke,” said a top hospital executive, whose facilities are packed with coronavirus patients.

Such were the expectations for the Navy hospital ship U.S.N.S. Comfort that when it chugged into New York Harbor this week, throngs of people, momentarily forgetting the strictures of social distancing, crammed together along Manhattan’s west side to catch a glimpse.

On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating local hospital executives. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only three patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html

How?

[zimpy27]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 3 Patients.

“It’s a joke,” said a top hospital executive, whose facilities are packed with coronavirus patients.

Such were the expectations for the Navy hospital ship U.S.N.S. Comfort that when it chugged into New York Harbor this week, throngs of people, momentarily forgetting the strictures of social distancing, crammed together along Manhattan’s west side to catch a glimpse.

On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating local hospital executives. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only three patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html

How?

How do people get on the ship? Do they drive there? Is there parking? Do ambulances go there? Did anyone think about logistics?

[Pharmcat]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 3 Patients.

“It’s a joke,” said a top hospital executive, whose facilities are packed with coronavirus patients.

Such were the expectations for the Navy hospital ship U.S.N.S. Comfort that when it chugged into New York Harbor this week, throngs of people, momentarily forgetting the strictures of social distancing, crammed together along Manhattan’s west side to catch a glimpse.

On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating local hospital executives. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only three patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html

How?

How do people get on the ship? Do they drive there? Is there parking? Do ambulances go there? Did anyone think about logistics?

The Navy is too busy firing captain who told the truth , they can't be bothered to take on patients

[TMU]

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 3 Patients.

“It’s a joke,” said a top hospital executive, whose facilities are packed with coronavirus patients.

Such were the expectations for the Navy hospital ship U.S.N.S. Comfort that when it chugged into New York Harbor this week, throngs of people, momentarily forgetting the strictures of social distancing, crammed together along Manhattan’s west side to catch a glimpse.

On Thursday, though, the huge white vessel, which officials had promised would bring succor to a city on the brink, sat mostly empty, infuriating local hospital executives. The ship’s 1,000 beds are largely unused, its 1,200-member crew mostly idle.

Only three patients had been transferred to the ship, officials said, even as New York hospitals struggled to find space for the thousands infected with the coronavirus. Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S.N.S. Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

“If I’m blunt about it, it’s a joke,” said Michael Dowling, the head of Northwell Health, New York’s largest hospital system. “Everyone can say, ‘Thank you for putting up these wonderful places and opening up these cavernous halls.’ But we’re in a crisis here, we’re in a battlefield.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/nyregion/ny-coronavirus-usns-comfort.html

How?

Is it even equipped to run at an ICU capacity let alone compatible to a hospital ward? I mean it says that there are 49 medical conditions that will prohibit those patients from being admitted into the ship. That's a steep admission requirement. It sounds like they are only allowing previously healthy patients. So maybe 3 patients sounds about right.

Not sustainable.

[OkcSinceSGA]

You were laid off?

I was furloughed officially Monday, but had been off work like 10 days prior on quarantine.

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I work in TV so sometimes enroll if I have a substantial break between gigs and it’s nearly impossible to speak to anyone even if there is a low rate. If you google how to speak to a person there are websites that will give you the combination of command numbers to hit to navigate the menus and speak to someone. That may be different now with the menu. Best bet is to use the contact link and send a message.

I just finished a show like the week before the first national social distancing guidelines were set and before the CA stay at home so I just beat the rush. And in my line of work they don’t have to check on the Circumstances for lack of work either so no real verification is required. Once they get to your paper work though you should receive any back-logged payments and hopefully they come to you soon!

Update! They finally sent me something asking me to verify my identity lol. Sent them copy of passport, that tells me they are going to approve me and just need documentation. My co worker applied after me and is already approved damn it! Good luck to you friend



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[OkcSinceSGA]

Wife has a friend in Illinois who lives with her mother (who has serious lung cancer). She's symptomatic for COVID-19 and they refused to run her test because she hasn't been in contact with anyone who was infected.... even after pleading with them because of her mom's lung cancer.


I've also heard a couple of stories like this from Florida.


At this point if you need to be tested you should just tell them you've been in contact with someone who is infected. Make up a co-worker or something

Exactly. Eventually people will just start lying. It's stupid that they screen this way.

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[basketballRob]

What the journalists are saying in this video isn't what matters, though. What matters is Brian Kemp's admission that he didn't know that Covid-19 could be spread by asymptomatic carriers. This is a full month after the first US death from Covid-19, 20 days after the confirmed cases in the US surpassed 1k and a whole week after the US surpassed every other country in the world in confirmed cases.

How can an elected official still be ignorant about this virus?

BadMofoPimp is a good guy but won’t respond to the actual issue here (well, he might now that I called him out lol). He saw CNN and shut the story out of his mind.

I believe some of what they said in there. There are a whole bunch of people in government that are complicit in our lack of preparedness, not just the President who is definitely to blame as well as probably the entire congress as well. At least not until the Virus could be used as a political tool of attacks on each other.

Seriously, if you want to discuss politics, politicalforum is the best out there because people can blast each other there from both sides and most are lefties. I am there all the time. Still, good stuff to debate because we can get banned here.

You can have political discussions in current affairs here.

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[basketballRob]

The rest of the world was pretty much as unprepared as the USA has been. I blame China's disinformation, not our government for our unpreparedness. As far as our government, they were focused in a battle of impeachment from Both Sides as a high priority during the initial stages of Coronavirus.

I wonder what our Scientists with the CDC was thinking from November thru February. Because, they should have made this a priority for our Politicians to address than blaming the Politicians themselves.

Anyways, in other news, I just read this article on yahoo regarding China being more complicit in the Virus. May be conspiracy, but is a great read on countries communications regarding bioweapons. Kind of wierd that a Chinese person was caught trying to bring virus's into USA labeled "Antibodies" two months before Coronavirus.


https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-sars-virus-and-flu-found-in-luggage-fbi-report-describes-chinas-biosecurity-risk-144526820.html

This is mostly nonsense.

US intelligence was well aware the Chinese were lying as early as January and the administration was warned multiple times.

I'm not Chinese; I don't have any influence over their government. I do pay a lot of taxes that pay for things like our intelligence services which are supposedly to protect us from international threats. It's outrageous that their warnings were ignored.

The CDC was tracking it also.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Larry Kudlow and Kelly Anne told us it was contained , what happened to that?

Or 15 cases going to 0

We pay so much in taxes but the current administration failed us all .

Well it's basically the flu. People go to work with it.

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[nymets1]

USA has over 10,000 recoveries now. I went through all the US states on bing.com/covid and I see a lot of states with 0 recoveries and the only state I see with a couple hundred recoveries is New York with 411 and than I see the small states like Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico and that's basically it. Something tells me they haven't updated the recoveries for the US states. Cause I added up the recoveries from each US state and it don't come close to the 10,365 recovered number in the USA.