Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread VI (Don't Read Post 1 & FAQ)

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Post#1061 » by ken6199 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 1:58 am

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Pharmcat wrote:Focus on impeachment ,so there must have been 0 campaign rallies and 0 golf trips during that time, right ?

I guess you misread, I said "BOTH SIDES."

Cut out the politics folks. You are too involved in this thread to ignore Dirk's notes on page 1.
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Post#1062 » by Pharmcat » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:09 am

nymets1 wrote:USA has over 10,000 recoveries now. I went through all the US states on bing.com/covid and I see a lot of states with 0 recoveries and the only state I see with a couple hundred recoveries is New York with 411 and than I see the small states like Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico and that's basically it. Something tells me they haven't updated the recoveries for the US states. Cause I added up the recoveries from each US state and it don't come close to the 10,365 recovered number in the USA.



Can we really trust the numbers since we don't even know the denominator of total infected ?
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Post#1063 » by bondom34 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:12 am

Not exactly virus related but this was interesting and makes sense. Good read.

Read on Twitter
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Post#1064 » by nymets1 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:15 am

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nymets1 wrote:USA has over 10,000 recoveries now. I went through all the US states on bing.com/covid and I see a lot of states with 0 recoveries and the only state I see with a couple hundred recoveries is New York with 411 and than I see the small states like Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico and that's basically it. Something tells me they haven't updated the recoveries for the US states. Cause I added up the recoveries from each US state and it don't come close to the 10,365 recovered number in the USA.



Can we really trust the numbers since we don't even know the denominator of total infected ?


I believe the 10,403 recoveries for the USA that the website shows but there's something wrong with putting the recovered number for each state.

New York has 411 recoveries
Delaware has 49 recoveries
North Dakota has 43 recoveries
South Dakota has 51 recoveries
New Hampshire has 91 recoveries
Maine has 68 recoveries
New Jersey has 53 recoveries
New Mexico has 31 recoveries
California has 6 recoveries

All the other states I think are showing 0 recoveries. My math doesn't come anywhere to the 10,365 recoveries in the USA.
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Post#1065 » by Bottomsouth » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:15 am

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I get why this is happening. He almost certainly knew the consequences of doing this and acted to protect his men; that's pretty amazing.

Especially considering being the captain of a carrier is a plum job which likely means you are marked for advancement.


Understand your opinion but this is the Navy. His position is serious and he needs to go through the proper channels. Last thing we need is to announce to the world our defenses confidential and/or privileged information. What he did in my opinion is the opposite of a leader.


Wait - you actually think he didn't try to go through the proper channels first?

Come on - that's ridiculous. The navy has had awful cultural problems for years where the brass ignores problems and the pleas of commanders trying to point them out (which is one reason we've had all the collisions in recent years).

He had a choice between letting his sailors suffer and die while the higher ups did nothing or going public and sacrificing his career.


It's absurd to suppose that a guy who had risen up for enough to captain a carrier didn't try to get help through the proper channels first.


Possibly but that is an assumption. The letter he wrote does not say anything you are concluding. Can you show me where he stated this or any news outlet stating this?
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Post#1066 » by Bottomsouth » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:16 am

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LKN wrote:
I get why this is happening. He almost certainly knew the consequences of doing this and acted to protect his men; that's pretty amazing.

Especially considering being the captain of a carrier is a plum job which likely means you are marked for advancement.


Understand your opinion but this is the Navy. His position is serious and he needs to go through the proper channels. Last thing we need is to announce to the world our defenses confidential and/or privileged information. What he did in my opinion is the opposite of a leader.


No one is attacking us anytime soon because one ship is infected with covid :lol:


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Post#1067 » by thelead » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:17 am

bondom34 wrote:Not exactly virus related but this was interesting and makes sense. Good read.

Read on Twitter
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Yup. Hotels, restaurants and other businesses should create a side hustle and sell their TP :lol:
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Post#1068 » by ken6199 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:20 am

WAsh. carried out the most stringent social distancing and we are seeing result. For any state that has not learned from this, they have to learn in case there is a rebound.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/seattle-washington-state-coronavirus-transmission-rate.html
While each infected person was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people earlier in March, that number appears to have dropped, with one projection suggesting that it was now down to 1.4.


Two people that need to be singled out regarding NYC's failure. Mayer Bill De Blasio, Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbo.
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Post#1069 » by ken6199 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:24 am

nymets1 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
nymets1 wrote:USA has over 10,000 recoveries now. I went through all the US states on bing.com/covid and I see a lot of states with 0 recoveries and the only state I see with a couple hundred recoveries is New York with 411 and than I see the small states like Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico and that's basically it. Something tells me they haven't updated the recoveries for the US states. Cause I added up the recoveries from each US state and it don't come close to the 10,365 recovered number in the USA.



Can we really trust the numbers since we don't even know the denominator of total infected ?


I believe the 10,403 recoveries for the USA that the website shows but there's something wrong with putting the recovered number for each state.

New York has 411 recoveries
Delaware has 49 recoveries
North Dakota has 43 recoveries
South Dakota has 51 recoveries
New Hampshire has 91 recoveries
Maine has 68 recoveries
New Jersey has 53 recoveries
New Mexico has 31 recoveries
California has 6 recoveries

All the other states I think are showing 0 recoveries. My math doesn't come anywhere to the 10,365 recoveries in the USA.


Are you sure you are not reading the daily recoveries instead of total recoveries? NY alone had more than 6000 recoveries.

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com
https://ncov2019.live/
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Post#1070 » by nymets1 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:29 am

ken6199 wrote:
nymets1 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:

Can we really trust the numbers since we don't even know the denominator of total infected ?


I believe the 10,403 recoveries for the USA that the website shows but there's something wrong with putting the recovered number for each state.

New York has 411 recoveries
Delaware has 49 recoveries
North Dakota has 43 recoveries
South Dakota has 51 recoveries
New Hampshire has 91 recoveries
Maine has 68 recoveries
New Jersey has 53 recoveries
New Mexico has 31 recoveries
California has 6 recoveries

All the other states I think are showing 0 recoveries. My math doesn't come anywhere to the 10,365 recoveries in the USA.


Are you sure you are not reading the daily recoveries instead of total recoveries? NY alone had more than 6000 recoveries.

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com
https://ncov2019.live/


It seems bing is only showing the daily recoveries under each state but under USA it says 10,365 total recoveries.
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Post#1071 » by GordanFreeman » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:34 am

ken6199 wrote:WAsh. carried out the most stringent social distancing and we are seeing result. For any state that has not learned from this, they have to learn in case there is a rebound.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/seattle-washington-state-coronavirus-transmission-rate.html
While each infected person was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people earlier in March, that number appears to have dropped, with one projection suggesting that it was now down to 1.4.


Two people that need to be singled out regarding NYC's failure. Mayer Bill De Blasio, Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbo.

Wasn't De Blasio calling for a shelter in place but Cuomo who said no to it?
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Post#1072 » by HollowEarth » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:36 am

thelead wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Not exactly virus related but this was interesting and makes sense. Good read.

Read on Twitter
?s=19

Yup. Hotels, restaurants and other businesses should create a side hustle and sell their TP :lol:
There's a grocery store / gas station sort of near me that is bulk buying industrial toilet paper and selling it by the roll. Started doing it early on into the pandemic. Really solid idea both financially and socially.

WalMart, Target, univiserties, etc, though, they get these rolls that are over a foot in diameter, and people are gonna be pretty desperate before they stack those up in their bathrooms.

Also, there's an Italian takeout place nearish that reduced their menu to primarily take-and-bake items (lasagna!), started up free delivery, and added all of their restaurant supplies to the menu (dairy products, gallons of oil, gloves, paper towels). (Edit: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214530479370541&set=p.10214530479370541&type=3&theater )
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Post#1073 » by bondom34 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:39 am

HollowEarth wrote:
thelead wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Not exactly virus related but this was interesting and makes sense. Good read.

Read on Twitter
?s=19

Yup. Hotels, restaurants and other businesses should create a side hustle and sell their TP :lol:
There's a grocery store / gas station sort of near me that is bulk buying industrial toilet paper and selling it by the roll. Started doing it early on into the pandemic. Really solid idea both financially and socially.

WalMart, Target, univiserties, etc, though, they get these rolls that are over a foot in diameter, and people are gonna be pretty desperate before they stack those up in their bathrooms.

Also, there's an Italian takeout place nearish that reduced their menu to primarily take-and-bake items (lasagna!), started up free delivery, and added all of their restaurant supplies to the menu (dairy products, gallons of oil, gloves, paper towels). (Edit: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214530479370541&set=p.10214530479370541&type=3&theater )

Actually that's kind of cool (assuming they're not price gouging), and a good business idea to boot.
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Post#1074 » by DowJones » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:39 am

Pharmcat wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
LKN wrote:
There are in fact not two sides to every story.


Maybe, not every story. But, for CNN, they only "promote" one side to every story. Their ratings are at the bottom of most categories because of their bias. CBS ain't bad and I been digging Skynews lately.



If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?


Both CNN and Fox News have a few people from the other side on their networks. MSNBC, otoh, does not. I think of the 3, MSNBC is easily the most extreme in terms of their political bias. I think CNN gets the most hate from conservatives because it has shifted the most over the last 4 or 5 years. It used to have a slight lean to the left and now it is essentially the left's version of Fox News.

There just isn't a reasonable place to go and get your news right now.
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Post#1075 » by GordanFreeman » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:41 am

nymets1 wrote:
ken6199 wrote:
nymets1 wrote:
I believe the 10,403 recoveries for the USA that the website shows but there's something wrong with putting the recovered number for each state.

New York has 411 recoveries
Delaware has 49 recoveries
North Dakota has 43 recoveries
South Dakota has 51 recoveries
New Hampshire has 91 recoveries
Maine has 68 recoveries
New Jersey has 53 recoveries
New Mexico has 31 recoveries
California has 6 recoveries

All the other states I think are showing 0 recoveries. My math doesn't come anywhere to the 10,365 recoveries in the USA.


Are you sure you are not reading the daily recoveries instead of total recoveries? NY alone had more than 6000 recoveries.

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com
https://ncov2019.live/


It seems bing is only showing the daily recoveries under each state but under USA it says 10,365 total recoveries.

Goodness, you're being serious in this thread.
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Post#1076 » by HollowEarth » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:46 am

GordanFreeman wrote:
ken6199 wrote:WAsh. carried out the most stringent social distancing and we are seeing result. For any state that has not learned from this, they have to learn in case there is a rebound.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/seattle-washington-state-coronavirus-transmission-rate.html
While each infected person was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people earlier in March, that number appears to have dropped, with one projection suggesting that it was now down to 1.4.


Two people that need to be singled out regarding NYC's failure. Mayer Bill De Blasio, Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbo.

Wasn't De Blasio calling for a shelter in place but Cuomo who said no to it?

Almost. De Blasio said the city was 48 hours away. This was the governor's immediate response:
"No city in the state can quarantine itself without state approval. And I have no interest whatsoever and no plan whatsoever to quarantine any city."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/politics/bill-de-blasio-andrew-cuomo-new-york-shelter-in-place-coronavirus-cnntv/index.html

Then just two days later this was the governor's response:
"This is not life as usual. Accept it, realize it, and deal with it.”
https://ny.curbed.com/2020/3/20/21187022/coronavirus-new-york-shutdown-shelter-in-place
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Post#1077 » by HollowEarth » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:48 am

DowJones wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Maybe, not every story. But, for CNN, they only "promote" one side to every story. Their ratings are at the bottom of most categories because of their bias. CBS ain't bad and I been digging Skynews lately.



If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?


Both CNN and Fox News have a few people from the other side on their networks. MSNBC, otoh, does not. I think of the 3, MSNBC is easily the most extreme in terms of their political bias. I think CNN gets the most hate from conservatives because it has shifted the most over the last 4 or 5 years. It used to have a slight lean to the left and now it is essentially the left's version of Fox News.

There just isn't a reasonable place to go and get your news right now.
I think that's really only a problem for people that want to watch the news. There's still loads of legit news to read.
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Post#1078 » by LKN » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:52 am

DowJones wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Maybe, not every story. But, for CNN, they only "promote" one side to every story. Their ratings are at the bottom of most categories because of their bias. CBS ain't bad and I been digging Skynews lately.



If CNN only promotes one side of the story how come they had Jeffrey Lord on every night during the previous campaign to defend Trump's side ?


Both CNN and Fox News have a few people from the other side on their networks. MSNBC, otoh, does not. I think of the 3, MSNBC is easily the most extreme in terms of their political bias. I think CNN gets the most hate from conservatives because it has shifted the most over the last 4 or 5 years. It used to have a slight lean to the left and now it is essentially the left's version of Fox News.

There just isn't a reasonable place to go and get your news right now.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Post#1079 » by LKN » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:53 am

Read on Twitter
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Post#1080 » by zimpy27 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 2:53 am

ken6199 wrote:WAsh. carried out the most stringent social distancing and we are seeing result. For any state that has not learned from this, they have to learn in case there is a rebound.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/seattle-washington-state-coronavirus-transmission-rate.html
While each infected person was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people earlier in March, that number appears to have dropped, with one projection suggesting that it was now down to 1.4.


Two people that need to be singled out regarding NYC's failure. Mayer Bill De Blasio, Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbo.



My county has also plateaued since lockdown was enforced 17 days ago.

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