Kawhi Leonard historic playoff stats

Caliboy2_Goat · Post #1 » by **Caliboy2_Goat** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:28 pm

- 4th highest single playoff BPM ever in 2017
- 3rd highest career playoff BPM
- 4th highest career playoff DBPM for non big men
- 4th highest career playoff Leader for Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
- 3rd highest career playoff TS
- 5th highest post merger single season playoff win shares per 48 minutes

So all these stats display Kawhi Leonard as a top 5 impactful playoff performer of all time. Only the haters or ignorant fans will say "Tony Parker averaged more points per game" or whatever bullcrap they want to throw at you. Leonard was finally happy in LA and what was he doing? Averaging 27\7\5 and anchoring a top 3 offense and top 5 defense despite inconsistent play from 2nd option on offense Paul George, an embarrassment on defense Shamet and Lou Williams being top 2\5 in minutes played. On top of all that? Kawhi is playing majority of his career in the tough western conference (unlike Lebron) and also he's pretty much at the start of the middle of his prime and all his numbers will only increase as times goes on. Lebron was lucky that this virus stuff saved him because he was setting himself up to get owned by Kawhi again.

mademan · Post #2 » by **mademan** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:31 pm

thebigbird · Post #3 » by **thebigbird** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:31 pm

Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Lunartic · Post #4 » by **Lunartic** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:35 pm

thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

thebigbird · Post #5 » by **thebigbird** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:41 pm

Lunartic wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Yeah Lebron really got shutdown with his 28 ppg on 68% TS. Congrats to Kawhi for getting the "guarded Lebron while his team won" finals MVP.

Jordan Stopper · Post #6 » by **Jordan Stopper** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 5:48 pm

Owned by Kawhi?

No, that's called the passing of the torch.

Jordan didn't face the same thing because he never came close to facing the same competition that LeBron has faced in his later years

Caliboy2_Goat · Post #7 » by **Caliboy2_Goat** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:02 pm

thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

What? Clippers are up 2-1 and even won when Paul George wasn't playing. Did Lebron beat clippers without AD?

Also, can you show me lebron and kawhi stats for the 3 games they played this year? It wouldn't be pretty for you.

I'm glad you have the "old man" excuse ready for Lebron already, keep that attitude when he gets eliminated.

BigtimeNBAfan · Post #8 » by **BigtimeNBAfan** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:06 pm

I actually like threads like this. They are much better than "Lebron sucks because a guy who played over 20 years ago stayed on his team didn't join Hakeem" threads we have seen.

Lmao at Kawhi though. This virus is just another day at the office for him. He is used to sitting out seasons.

jason bourne · Post #9 » by **jason bourne** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:09 pm

Caliboy2_Goat wrote:- 4th highest single playoff BPM ever in 2017
- 3rd highest career playoff BPM
- 4th highest career playoff DBPM for non big men
- 4th highest career playoff Leader for Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
- 3rd highest career playoff TS
- 5th highest post merger single season playoff win shares per 48 minutes

So all these stats display Kawhi Leonard as a top 5 impactful playoff performer of all time. Only the haters or ignorant fans will say "Tony Parker averaged more points per game" or whatever bullcrap they want to throw at you. Leonard was finally happy in LA and what was he doing? Averaging 27\7\5 and anchoring a top 3 offense and top 5 offense despite inconsistent play from 2nd option on offense Paul George, an embarrassment on defense Shamet and Lou Williams being top 2\5 in minutes played. On top of all that? Kawhi is playing majority of his career in the tough western conference (unlike Lebron) and also he's pretty much at the start of the middle of his prime and all his numbers will only increase as times goes on. Lebron was lucky that this virus stuff saved him because he was setting himself up to get owned by Kawhi again.

Naw

Caliboy2_Goat · Post #10 » by **Caliboy2_Goat** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:12 pm

thebigbird wrote:
Lunartic wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Yeah Lebron really got shutdown with his 28 ppg on 68% TS. Congrats to Kawhi for getting the "guarded Lebron while his team won" finals MVP.

Meaningless stats in a series that wasn't competitive is not how the game works, my friend.

Kawhi took lebron out of his comfort zone and made him passive and frustrated, you can even see it in lebron's face when kawhi checked in (YouTube it).

On top of that, games 3-5 kawhi was torching Miami with his scoring.

ali1979 · Post #11 » by **ali1979** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:17 pm

Lunartic wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

AdagioPace · Post #12 » by **AdagioPace** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:28 pm

thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

lol....we have a winner.I completely forgot about him

Homer38 · Post #13 » by **Homer38** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:34 pm

Kawhi was like the 3rd or 4th best scorer of the spurs in 2014 in the regular season and in the playoffs .... In the WCF, Kawhi was the 6th best scorer of his own team! :lol:

I've never seen a player have too much credit like that because of 3 games.The spurs were a true complete team with a great coach,not a one man team.

Chanel Bomber · Post #14 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 6:40 pm

Kawhi is an all-time playoff performer. I was really looking forward to this postseason. We've now been robbed of two prime Kawhi postseasons in 3 years, it's a shame.

2017 Kawhi remains incredibly underrated, even if it's widely recognized as a great single season. Even if Golden State would've probably won the series anyway (and Kawhi was already playing hurt), he had the Warriors shook in that first half.

Caliboy2_Goat · Post #15 » by **Caliboy2_Goat** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:19 pm

ali1979 wrote:
Lunartic wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

Kawhi led the team in points during the finals, no robin has ever done that and you can't change that now. There was no batman on that old spurs team and Kawhi emerged as it in the finals. That's why spurs choked the year before when they were content on Kawhi being a 3 and D guy.

As far as 2019 playoffs, kawhi had the toughest east path in NBA history and you are just shrugging that off. So I can't really take you seriously there. Also kawhi in the finals faced curry klay Dray with 1 of them missing time just like Lebron did in 2016 finals.

Lebron always had to come back from being down in the finals, whether it was 2013 or 2016. Only dominating year he had was against two historic playoff chokers harden and Westbrook

Baski · Post #16 » by **Baski** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:24 pm

Holy **** OP is HBK? Hilarious. How's that 32 PER and league leading offense and 8 apg and load management looking now?

So many Ls this season lmao.

Caliboy2_Goat · Post #17 » by **Caliboy2_Goat** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:26 pm

Homer38 wrote:Kawhi was like the 3rd or 4th best scorer of the spurs in 2014 in the regular season and in the playoffs .... In the WCF, Kawhi was the 6th best scorer of his own team!

I've never seen a player have too much credit like that because of 3 games.The spurs were a true complete team with a great coach,not a one man team.

We don't look at when they played Durant and Westbrook, those two clowns were going to choke sooner or later. To give you a comparison, they were the 2010s version of Stockton and malone. Sooner or later they are going to choke. What we look at is the finals, you know the tean that just won 2 straight rings? That series, kawhi was the clear best player.

Another thing, kawhi is top 3 in career BPM DESPITE not getting the same opportunity to dominate in 2012,2013,2014 and even to a certain extent 2015 playoffs was still running through TD in the post. Imagine if Kawhi was able to have the ball and run with it instead of that french prick Tony Parker? Kawhi would be even more impactful and at #2 or even FIRST in career playoff BPM right now. #3 and still multiple prime years left is still jaw dropping.

homecourtloss · Post #18 » by **homecourtloss** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:34 pm

AdagioPace wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

lol....we have a winner.I completely forgot about him

This username even has an underscore :lol:

Cavsfansince84 · Post #19 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:47 pm

I don't think there's any denying that Kawhi has had two really impressive playoff runs(2019/2017) and another very good one(2016) plus the other where he got fmvp though he wasn't being asked to do best player on a team type things in that playoff run. So obviously a lot of those stats are skewered towards him being on very good teams most of his career and a somewhat small sample size. I don't see people's opinions on him changing much due to those stats in the op.

Jabroni Lames · Post #20 » by **Jabroni Lames** » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:51 pm

Homer38 wrote:Kawhi was like the 3rd or 4th best scorer of the spurs in 2014 in the regular season and in the playoffs .... In the WCF, Kawhi was the 6th best scorer of his own team!

I've never seen a player have too much credit like that because of 3 games.The spurs were a true complete team with a great coach,not a one man team.

Are you trying to dis-credit that historic 14.3 PPG playoff scoring average? It's one of the greatest playoff "runs" that we've seen in the modern era.