Kawhi Leonard historic playoff stats

[Lunartic]

Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

Is Kawhi was Robin, then who was Batman? There's a reason he won FMVP. I always find it interesting that people complain about "empty stats" and no defense but when a player like Iggy or Kawhi get FMVP for game changing defense, suddenly it's a fraudulent award and should have gone to the biggest chucker of the game instead.

Leonard and the Raps beat the 60 win Bucks, the Embiid/Butler/Simmons Sixers and the Warriors sans Durant for most of the games.

Give an example of a more difficult path that LeBron faced on his way to winning a title.

I'm eager to hear you prop up mediocre teams in order to prove your point.

[Caliboy2_Goat]

Kawhi was like the 3rd or 4th best scorer of the spurs in 2014 in the regular season and in the playoffs .... In the WCF, Kawhi was the 6th best scorer of his own team!

I've never seen a player have too much credit like that because of 3 games.The spurs were a true complete team with a great coach,not a one man team.

Are you trying to dis-credit that historic 14.3 PPG playoff scoring average? It's one of the greatest playoff "runs" that we've seen in the modern era.

Career playoff BPM is top 3 ever right now whether he was averaging 14 or 30, so I don't see your point. He has the impact of a top 5 GOAT despite not getting scoring opportunities early in his career due to that ballhog midget Tony Parker.

Spurs in 2010's were embarrassing themselves in the playoffs until Kawhi came around.

[mademan]

Is Kawhi was Robin, then who was Batman? There's a reason he won FMVP.

i mean a year earlier Danny Green was on pace to win FMVP. Kawhi might have had the best 5 game stretch on that team, but he certainly wasnt the best player, and he wasnt treated in that manner by the Heat defense.

[foreigngrammar]

HBK aka Uncle Dennis
Never get's old. But honestly it is an honour to have you on this board, Sir!

[Jabroni Lames]

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

Is Kawhi was Robin, then who was Batman? There's a reason he won FMVP. I always find it interesting that people complain about "empty stats" and no defense but when a player like Iggy or Kawhi get FMVP for game changing defense, suddenly it's a fraudulent award and should have gone to the biggest chucker of the game instead.

Leonard and the Raps beat the 60 win Bucks, the Embiid/Butler/Simmons Sixers and the Warriors sans Durant for most of the games.

Give an example of a more difficult path that LeBron faced on his way to winning a title.

I'm eager to hear you prop up mediocre teams in order to prove your point.

On the 2019 Raptors, Kawhi had 6 teammates who have been, or should be all-NBA defense candidates: Green, Siakam, Lowry, FVV, Gasol & Ibaka. Powell is pretty good too. And Siakam averaged almost 20PPG throughout the playoffs with elite defense, so Kawhi had his Pippen. And it's pretty clear now that Nick Nurse is a top 3 coach in the NBA. Everybody keeps forgetting that he joined a 59-win team with young talent on the rise.

Bottom-line: Kawhi had tons of help in 2014 and 2019. He's been lucky to have 'no-lose' situations and to his credit, he took full advantage of it.

[Lunartic]

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

Is Kawhi was Robin, then who was Batman? There's a reason he won FMVP. I always find it interesting that people complain about "empty stats" and no defense but when a player like Iggy or Kawhi get FMVP for game changing defense, suddenly it's a fraudulent award and should have gone to the biggest chucker of the game instead.

Leonard and the Raps beat the 60 win Bucks, the Embiid/Butler/Simmons Sixers and the Warriors sans Durant for most of the games.

Give an example of a more difficult path that LeBron faced on his way to winning a title.

I'm eager to hear you prop up mediocre teams in order to prove your point.

On the 2019 Raptors, Kawhi had 6 teammates who have been, or should be all-NBA defense candidates: Green, Siakam, Lowry, FVV, Gasol & Ibaka. Powell is pretty good too. And Siakam averaged almost 20PPG throughout the playoffs with elite defense, so Kawhi had his Pippen. And it's pretty clear now that Nick Nurse is a top 3 coach in the NBA. Everybody keeps forgetting that he joined a 59-win team with young talent on the rise.

Bottom-line: Kawhi had tons of help in 2014 and 2019. He's been lucky to have 'no-lose' situations and to his credit, he took full advantage of it.

Yes, the Raptors were good defensively and clearly were not going anywhere without a superstar like Leonard. That doesn't diminish the extraordinary playoff run the Raps made last year.

Does Lebron have anything comparable? His win over GSW is a top-10 of all time finals series in my opinion but he's not exactly had a difficult path to the finals.

Bottom line: you can't win a title in the NBA without tons of "help"

[AdagioPace]

Kawhi had a lot of work to do before becoming a reliable PS performer...in 2015(not many years ago) he was getting shut down by the almighty Matt Barnes

[ILOVEIT]

With the game on the line....I'll take Kawhi. Back to regular scheduled posting.

[ali1979]

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

Kawhi led the team in points during the finals, no robin has ever done that and you can't change that now. There was no batman on that old spurs team and Kawhi emerged as it in the finals. That's why spurs choked the year before when they were content on Kawhi being a 3 and D guy.

As far as 2019 playoffs, kawhi had the toughest east path in NBA history and you are just shrugging that off. So I can't really take you seriously there. Also kawhi in the finals faced curry klay Dray with 1 of them missing time just like Lebron did in 2016 finals.

Lebron always had to come back from being down in the finals, whether it was 2013 or 2016. Only dominating year he had was against two historic playoff chokers harden and Westbrook

I am old spurs fan. Your point on points is meaningless. Duncan was the Batman on that team. Stats is not everyhing. You are not aware of Duncan effect at that team or you have o poor basketball knowledge considering just stats.

[LarsV8]

Gonna happen when you are dropped into one of the absolute best situations possible, get traded for garbage to another already great team and then get paired with another absolute monster star.

[rate_]

Kawhi was essentially a high end role player during his 1st FMVP campaign. Let’s not try to narrate him as this emerging star player carrying the team on his back in 2014 to title. Playoff volume scoring was just ~16 pp75 (albeit great efficiency) in his 3 year playoff run leading up to the 1st FMVP. Durant in comparison was already putting up 28+ pp75 in the playoffs at a similar age.

[Lunartic]

Kawhi was Robin in that team like Iguadola's FMVP.

He has just one ring with being Batman against GS who was without their best player Durant and their third best player (two games).

Kawhi has proved nothing with a depleted team. Lebron has played conference final in his 4th year with a garbage squad. He destroyed Detroit team which was as powerful as lakers and spurs that time. He won two games against GS with Delly ad the second best player.

Everybody said Love and Irving were superstars. But noone wants them as max players after Lebron left.

Kawhi led the team in points during the finals, no robin has ever done that and you can't change that now. There was no batman on that old spurs team and Kawhi emerged as it in the finals. That's why spurs choked the year before when they were content on Kawhi being a 3 and D guy.

As far as 2019 playoffs, kawhi had the toughest east path in NBA history and you are just shrugging that off. So I can't really take you seriously there. Also kawhi in the finals faced curry klay Dray with 1 of them missing time just like Lebron did in 2016 finals.

Lebron always had to come back from being down in the finals, whether it was 2013 or 2016. Only dominating year he had was against two historic playoff chokers harden and Westbrook

I am old spurs fan. Your point on points is meaningless. Duncan was the Batman on that team. Stats is not everyhing. You are not aware of Duncan effect at that team or you have o poor basketball knowledge considering just stats.

What team you're a fan of is irrelevant.

The Duncan effect? You mean his leadership and good defense? Absolutely, he was good but getting washed. He had no chance of winning without Leonard that year.

I made several points that you chose to ignore

[ali1979]

Kawhi led the team in points during the finals, no robin has ever done that and you can't change that now. There was no batman on that old spurs team and Kawhi emerged as it in the finals. That's why spurs choked the year before when they were content on Kawhi being a 3 and D guy.

As far as 2019 playoffs, kawhi had the toughest east path in NBA history and you are just shrugging that off. So I can't really take you seriously there. Also kawhi in the finals faced curry klay Dray with 1 of them missing time just like Lebron did in 2016 finals.

Lebron always had to come back from being down in the finals, whether it was 2013 or 2016. Only dominating year he had was against two historic playoff chokers harden and Westbrook

I am old spurs fan. Your point on points is meaningless. Duncan was the Batman on that team. Stats is not everyhing. You are not aware of Duncan effect at that team or you have o poor basketball knowledge considering just stats.

What team you're a fan of is irrelevant.

The Duncan effect? You mean his leadership and good defense? Absolutely, he was good but getting washed. He had no chance of winning without Leonard that year.

I made several points that you chose to ignore

If we speak about chances
Kawhi had no chance without Duncan
Kawhi had no chance without Siakam, FVV
...
It goes on.

Yes, that washed Duncan was the man on that team.

Duncan has more playoff success than Kawhi and he is a greater Player than Kawhi even not close. I wonder why people make threads for Kawhi 10 times ahead of him.

[Lunartic]

I am old spurs fan. Your point on points is meaningless. Duncan was the Batman on that team. Stats is not everyhing. You are not aware of Duncan effect at that team or you have o poor basketball knowledge considering just stats.

What team you're a fan of is irrelevant.

The Duncan effect? You mean his leadership and good defense? Absolutely, he was good but getting washed. He had no chance of winning without Leonard that year.

I made several points that you chose to ignore

If we speak about chances
Kawhi had no chance without Duncan
Kawhi had no chance without Siakam, FVV
...
It goes on.

Yes, that washed Duncan was the man on that team.

Duncan has more playoff success than Kawhi and he is a greater Player than Kawhi even not close. I wonder why people make threads for Kawhi 10 times ahead of him.

You're coming off like some loonytune

Duncan is unquestionably a top-5 player of all time in my eyes and the great PF to ever play. Infact, Duncan is closer to being top-5 than LeBron is to 1.

We saw what happened when Duncan didn't have Kawhi playing at a high level, they lost. We also saw what happened when Siakam and FVV, they lost.

All great players require great casts to win, I'm not saying Leonard singlehandedly won a title. I'm saying his path to the title was one of the most difficult ever.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Alright so let me ask people on this board something...

Westworld season 1 was incredible. Mysterious storyline about some maze with great characters and dialogue.

Get to season 2 and....So far 5 episodes in and it's like the fun mysterious plot line just vanished. Like some characters get powers without explanation as to how. The only 2 story lines keeping me interested so far are Bernards and The man in blacks. The story went from being mysterious to being the generic ''machine rebelling against their creators'' type of story.

[Jayt99]

Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

What about the other 2 times kawhi son’d Lebron this season? LOL

[Jayt99]

Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Yeah Lebron really got shutdown with his 28 ppg on 68% TS. Congrats to Kawhi for getting the "guarded Lebron while his team won" finals MVP.

Maybe actually watch the game instead of stat pulling. Lebron put up empty stats in garbage time

Watch on YouTube

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[Homer38]

Baby Kawhi and his Spurs destroyed Lebron and his Heat so badly, Lebron left his team.

Yeah Lebron really got shutdown with his 28 ppg on 68% TS. Congrats to Kawhi for getting the "guarded Lebron while his team won" finals MVP.

Maybe actually watch the game instead of stat pulling. Lebron put up empty stats in garbage time

Watch on YouTube

I

The heat were in garbage time for almost the entire time in the last 3 games...

[Gooner]

HBK aka Uncle Dennis
Never get's old. But honestly it is an honour to have you on this board, Sir!

What happened to HBK?

[sprewellchokes]

Okay HBK. Lebron's 35 and had his team in first place in the exact same conference. He just sonned Kawhi on national television. Prime Kawhi isn't even better than old man Lebron.

You bronsexuals are out-of-control.This trend was about Kawhis historic playoff run. What does this have to do with LeBron?