Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[GTR11]

LaVine is an excellent player, and would probably be a solid 3rd option on offense. I doubt Chicago trades him though.

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Retaining Joe is a priority, at least I would say, but the Nets' entire offensive philosophy will change when the new coach comes in so honestly I don't think Joe is coming back.

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

[DarkXaero]

LaVine is an excellent player, and would probably be a solid 3rd option on offense. I doubt Chicago trades him though.

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Retaining Joe is a priority, at least I would say, but the Nets' entire offensive philosophy will change when the new coach comes in so honestly I don't think Joe is coming back.

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

[GTR11]

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

Sure and he said he willing to pay tax, however doesn't change the fact other owners be cheap.

[Trader_Joe]

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

We will be more impacted as we will have the highest payroll and biggest tax bill in the league by a wide mile. You have to be realistic about what even the richest owners will pay.

[MrDollarBills]

LaVine is an excellent player, and would probably be a solid 3rd option on offense. I doubt Chicago trades him though.

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Retaining Joe is a priority, at least I would say, but the Nets' entire offensive philosophy will change when the new coach comes in so honestly I don't think Joe is coming back.

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

I expect a lot of turnover in the offseason, so I would not be surprised if he's not a priority to retain.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

The salary cap could contract drastically. You have to figure that the financial losses for the NBA league wide have been absolutely brutal.

[TheNetsFan]

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

The salary cap could contract drastically. You have to figure that the financial losses for the NBA league wide have been absolutely brutal.

The issue is going to be that everything needs to be collectively bargained. I'm sure the owners will try to argue for a % reduction in salaries for this year and next year commensurate with the amount of lost revenue. Then they'd need to agree to apply those reduced salaries as the cap numbers for this year and next year. If not, every team will end up being a tax paying team, and no FA, aside from the truly elite, will get anything beyond the minimum.

I think you'll also see a lot of one year deals, because of the much lower cap. FAs are going to want to enter free agency again when the cap jumps back up.

[DarkXaero]

LaVine is an excellent player, and would probably be a solid 3rd option on offense. I doubt Chicago trades him though.

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Retaining Joe is a priority, at least I would say, but the Nets' entire offensive philosophy will change when the new coach comes in so honestly I don't think Joe is coming back.

I don't see why Joe isn't coming back, just because Kenny Atkinson is gone? Joe is a valuable guy on every team in the NBA, as a highly efficient, elite 3pt shooting threat. It doesn't matter who the coach is, he has value under every system or any coach. Way too early to say how our entire offensive philosophy will change.

I expect a lot of turnover in the offseason, so I would not be surprised if he's not a priority to retain.

We gain nothing by losing him for nothing. Unless it's a sign & trade, re-signing Joe is an offseason priority.

[DarkXaero]

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

The salary cap could contract drastically. You have to figure that the financial losses for the NBA league wide have been absolutely brutal.

And that's gonna hurt the rest of the league more than it'll hurt us. Sure, our payroll is high, but having one of the richest owners whose wealth has been trending up helps a lot.

[DarkXaero]

NBA owners will come up with something that we don't know yet. This massive amounts of money that they lost will not be tolerated by them again. I expect them to reduce player salary before season begins ( I don't expect season to start on time ). I think Joe will have to take a pay cut anyway he looks at it ones things get settled.

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

We will be more impacted as we will have the highest payroll and biggest tax bill in the league by a wide mile. You have to be realistic about what even the richest owners will pay.

There are plenty of teams that will be in luxury tax situation, having to worry about re-signing players. Lakers have to re-sign AD, Clippers have to re-sign Harrell, Bucks have to give Giannis a mega contract, etc. Meanwhile yall worried about Joe Harris.

[Trader_Joe]

Tsai is the 2nd richest owner in the league though, we'll be less impacted than other NBA teams.

We will be more impacted as we will have the highest payroll and biggest tax bill in the league by a wide mile. You have to be realistic about what even the richest owners will pay.

There are plenty of teams that will be in luxury tax situation, having to worry about re-signing players. Lakers have to re-sign AD, Clippers have to re-sign Harrell, Bucks have to give Giannis a mega contract, etc. Meanwhile yall worried about Joe Harris.

Not how it works.
AD was already signed for big money as was Giannis. Nets have big contracts already with KD, KI, DJ plus two extensions kicking in in CL and TP.

With that drastic increase in salary combined with a drastic decrease in revenue and cap, things have changed.

[MrDollarBills]

We will be more impacted as we will have the highest payroll and biggest tax bill in the league by a wide mile. You have to be realistic about what even the richest owners will pay.

There are plenty of teams that will be in luxury tax situation, having to worry about re-signing players. Lakers have to re-sign AD, Clippers have to re-sign Harrell, Bucks have to give Giannis a mega contract, etc. Meanwhile yall worried about Joe Harris.

Not how it works.
AD was already signed for big money as was Giannis. Nets have big contracts already with KD, KI, DJ plus two extensions kicking in in CL and TP.

With that drastic increase in salary combined with a drastic decrease in revenue and cap, things have changed.

Anthony Davis and Giannis are free agents.

[GTR11]

There are plenty of teams that will be in luxury tax situation, having to worry about re-signing players. Lakers have to re-sign AD, Clippers have to re-sign Harrell, Bucks have to give Giannis a mega contract, etc. Meanwhile yall worried about Joe Harris.

Not how it works.
AD was already signed for big money as was Giannis. Nets have big contracts already with KD, KI, DJ plus two extensions kicking in in CL and TP.

With that drastic increase in salary combined with a drastic decrease in revenue and cap, things have changed.

Anthony Davis and Giannis are free agents.

If we being specific here than AD has PO of 28.7 mil and Giannis has another year of 27.5 mil. Lakers 119m committed and Bucks 130. Hard to see both of them walking away from 250m contracts tbh.
My point was that owners already been in conversation with nbapa about how salaries might be cut due to unexpected short season. As if today it's hard to say when season is going to begin next year if begin at all. I think players and owners will get to talk sometime when things clear up a little more, to see how they going to share revenue. We got no idea how much money NBA lost due to covid 19, there were talks about Chinese cuts and how it can hurt, now this shortened season will definitely hurt a lot. I think salary cap reduction is not out the question and will be enforced by cheap owners ( they got majority ) to cover up for their losses.

[Trader_Joe]

There are plenty of teams that will be in luxury tax situation, having to worry about re-signing players. Lakers have to re-sign AD, Clippers have to re-sign Harrell, Bucks have to give Giannis a mega contract, etc. Meanwhile yall worried about Joe Harris.

Not how it works.
AD was already signed for big money as was Giannis. Nets have big contracts already with KD, KI, DJ plus two extensions kicking in in CL and TP.

With that drastic increase in salary combined with a drastic decrease in revenue and cap, things have changed.

Anthony Davis and Giannis are free agents.

Their salaries will be a little higher than what they made last year. LeVert, Prince and Harris will be making much more than they did last year. Apples to Oranges.

If we waive Temple and Pinson we're at $138m without resigning Harris or using the Tax Exceptions.
Lakers are around $120m AFTER signing AD.

[Prokorov]

Not how it works.
AD was already signed for big money as was Giannis. Nets have big contracts already with KD, KI, DJ plus two extensions kicking in in CL and TP.

With that drastic increase in salary combined with a drastic decrease in revenue and cap, things have changed.

Anthony Davis and Giannis are free agents.

If we being specific here than AD has PO of 28.7 mil and Giannis has another year of 27.5 mil. Lakers 119m committed and Bucks 130. Hard to see both of them walking away from 250m contracts tbh.
My point was that owners already been in conversation with nbapa about how salaries might be cut due to unexpected short season. As if today it's hard to say when season is going to begin next year if begin at all. I think players and owners will get to talk sometime when things clear up a little more, to see how they going to share revenue. We got no idea how much money NBA lost due to covid 19, there were talks about Chinese cuts and how it can hurt, now this shortened season will definitely hurt a lot. I think salary cap reduction is not out the question and will be enforced by cheap owners ( they got majority ) to cover up for their losses.

AD probably stays but but 0.0% chance Giannis is back.

just like Kawhi in toronto, kyrie in boston, AD in new orleans etc....

These guys arent sticking around for another year and 12% more cash to be in smaller markets.

They are going to major markets and probably to team up. they can eaily make that extra cash up in endorsements and exposure.

[DarkXaero]

Not how it works.
AD was already signed for big money as was Giannis. Nets have big contracts already with KD, KI, DJ plus two extensions kicking in in CL and TP.

With that drastic increase in salary combined with a drastic decrease in revenue and cap, things have changed.

Anthony Davis and Giannis are free agents.

Their salaries will be a little higher than what they made last year. LeVert, Prince and Harris will be making much more than they did last year. Apples to Oranges.

If we waive Temple and Pinson we're at $138m without resigning Harris or using the Tax Exceptions.
Lakers are around $120m AFTER signing AD.

A little higher? AD's salary would go from $28 mill to $35 mill, that's really not all that different from the increase Joe Harris will have on his current deal to his next. Giannis could sign a 5 year/$254 mill contract, which would nearly double his salary, hardly "a little higher". You're also assuming that Lakers don't make any moves to use their salaries to get more incoming salary.

[Trader_Joe]

Anthony Davis and Giannis are free agents.

Their salaries will be a little higher than what they made last year. LeVert, Prince and Harris will be making much more than they did last year. Apples to Oranges.

If we waive Temple and Pinson we're at $138m without resigning Harris or using the Tax Exceptions.
Lakers are around $120m AFTER signing AD.

A little higher? AD's salary would go from $28 mill to $35 mill, that's really not all that different from the increase Joe Harris will have on his current deal to his next. Giannis could sign a 5 year/$254 mill contract, which would nearly double his salary, hardly "a little higher". You're also assuming that Lakers don't make any moves to use their salaries to get more incoming salary.

Giannis isn't a FA this summer.

ADs raise is less than either Prince or LeVert's raises and about Harris sould have expected.

I'm not assuming anything about LAL just saying where they are after AD just as I didn't assume we used our exception or keep Temple for almost $5m.

[DarkXaero]

Their salaries will be a little higher than what they made last year. LeVert, Prince and Harris will be making much more than they did last year. Apples to Oranges.

If we waive Temple and Pinson we're at $138m without resigning Harris or using the Tax Exceptions.
Lakers are around $120m AFTER signing AD.

A little higher? AD's salary would go from $28 mill to $35 mill, that's really not all that different from the increase Joe Harris will have on his current deal to his next. Giannis could sign a 5 year/$254 mill contract, which would nearly double his salary, hardly "a little higher". You're also assuming that Lakers don't make any moves to use their salaries to get more incoming salary.

Giannis isn't a FA this summer.

ADs raise is less than either Prince or LeVert's raises and about Harris sould have expected.

I'm not assuming anything about LAL just saying where they are after AD just as I didn't assume we used our exception or keep Temple for almost $5m.

Giannis will be eligible for extension, and Bucks will 100% look to re-sign him before he can hit FA obviously. And Nets/Marks/Tsai already knew that they would be in lux tax with those Levert, Prince extensions, and we're likely to make a trade or two this offseason, so who knows what ends up happening. Either way, I think saying that its going to hurt us more than others is premature.

[Trader_Joe]

A little higher? AD's salary would go from $28 mill to $35 mill, that's really not all that different from the increase Joe Harris will have on his current deal to his next. Giannis could sign a 5 year/$254 mill contract, which would nearly double his salary, hardly "a little higher". You're also assuming that Lakers don't make any moves to use their salaries to get more incoming salary.

Giannis isn't a FA this summer.

ADs raise is less than either Prince or LeVert's raises and about Harris sould have expected.

I'm not assuming anything about LAL just saying where they are after AD just as I didn't assume we used our exception or keep Temple for almost $5m.

Giannis will be eligible for extension, and Bucks will 100% look to re-sign him before he can hit FA obviously. And Nets/Marks/Tsai already knew that they would be in lux tax with those Levert, Prince extensions, and we're likely to make a trade or two this offseason, so who knows what ends up happening. Either way, I think saying that its going to hurt us more than others is premature.

Only guys coming off rookie contracts take extensions these days. He will hit free agency. They still have a lower payroll thanks to their flexibility.

And yeah, they, the Nets, knew.... then.... things have changed. They will scale the cap and the Nets will be the biggest outlier I know of. The Nets like all NBA teams are gonna bleed money. Harris will make their bill exponentially higher given the tax ramifications. This was gonna happen even before things hit the fan. It's much worse post things hitting the fan.

[DarkXaero]

Giannis isn't a FA this summer.

ADs raise is less than either Prince or LeVert's raises and about Harris sould have expected.

I'm not assuming anything about LAL just saying where they are after AD just as I didn't assume we used our exception or keep Temple for almost $5m.

Giannis will be eligible for extension, and Bucks will 100% look to re-sign him before he can hit FA obviously. And Nets/Marks/Tsai already knew that they would be in lux tax with those Levert, Prince extensions, and we're likely to make a trade or two this offseason, so who knows what ends up happening. Either way, I think saying that its going to hurt us more than others is premature.

Only guys coming off rookie contracts take extensions these days. He will hit free agency. They still have a lower payroll thanks to their flexibility.

And yeah, they, the Nets, knew.... then.... things have changed. They will scale the cap and the Nets will be the biggest outlier I know of. The Nets like all NBA teams are gonna bleed money. Harris will make their bill exponentially higher given the tax ramifications. This was gonna happen even before things hit the fan. It's much worse post things hitting the fan.

Plenty of guys have signed extensions before hitting free agency. Bradley Beal being a recent example.

Also I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from, with Nets being the biggest outlier. There are 3 other teams projected to have a payroll of over $140 mill, with Warriors and Sixers likely to go over $150 mill in payroll, as Warriors add a top lotto pick (close to potentially $10 mill more), and Sixers have to make decisions on Burks/GR3, and fill out roster spots. Celtics also have a payroll over $140 mill. If Bucks re-sign Giannis to a supermax, they'll end up being up there too.