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Post#1281 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Apr 9, 2020 6:38 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:Malarky! If he just doesn't gaff himself to oblivion I don't see any way Trump wins re-election. He has just alienated too many sub groups in our society. He's done his best to lose the navy vote with backing a war criminal and firing a beloved captain to his crew. Then send the guy he appointed to replace the guy who quit over the war criminal thing to talk dirt to the crew and then tender his resignation upon return to the states, all while denying he knows said man.

Please don't screw this up Joe lol.
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Gomagic44 wrote:I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.

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Somedays, Joe Doesn't even remember what day it is. Should be a landslide for Donald unless he continues to mess this up.


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I think avid CNN viewers may agree with you, but I have a feeling at the very least half of the others will disagree. You need to broaden your reading outside of the liberal persuasion! 8-)

I would love to go back to the left side but I am anti-socialist/extremist left. More moderate but anything to do with the left nowadays leans way to far left.
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Post#1282 » by sChOlaRlY_Magi » Thu Apr 9, 2020 6:55 pm

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Gomagic44 wrote:I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.
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This so much, I am not even a New Yorker, but I have Google. Dude bankrupted Casinos! You may start to say "How does one even do that? 'But wait ,there is more, just in that example. Not only did he bankrupt it, but he got some friends to help buy it back out of banruptcy, and then stuck them with the bill as he bankrupted it again! lol

So Joe's motto is status quo...

Thousands of lawsuits, maybe tens of thousands, and really the list goes one back to the 70's! But, yeah... He is a businessman, lets have him run the country...

I didn't even think he would do this bad, it is baffling that there is no coherent nationwide effort, still!

I read about a disease in China back last November. I am no Sherlock Holmes, but surely it is easy to deduce that he had to know about this by December! Because he gets those PBDs ,you know the ones he doesn't read...


Still he has done what a lot of people wanted him to do, he threw a grenade into the Federal governement and walked away.

This is what it looks like when you have no Federal Response to a disaster... This is what taxation without representation looks like...


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Somedays, Joe Doesn't even remember what day it is. Should be a landslide for Donald unless he continues to mess this up.



This, unfortunately I agree with... The Democratic party is feckless because they are just as bought by Corporations as the GOP. At least the older order. They all have stocks in Medical and all that other ish.

So Joe's motto is status quo... Unfortunately
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Post#1283 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:02 pm

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Gomagic44 wrote:I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.

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Somedays, Joe Doesn't even remember what day it is. Should be a landslide for Donald unless he continues to mess this up.



This, unfortunately I agree with... The Democratic party is feckless because they are just as bought by Corporations as the GOP. At least the older order. They all have stocks in Medical and all that other ish.

So Joe's motto is status quo... Unfortunately


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Post#1284 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:09 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.


Even if I agreed with the comment about policies, the problem is he does “utter a word” and he does so ... a lot!! More importantly, his base of people hang his every word to the point of dangerous extremes. It becomes about more than politics and agendas. This isn’t a Left vs Right issue. This is a Correct vs. Trump issue. You need a proper leader of people.

There are many (moderate) Republicans I would welcome with open arms as the POTUS. That really isn’t a statement of the times of today. I would welcome many of them against a Bernie, Hilary, Gore, Biden or many dems we have seen recently. ... but oh boy would I slobber over welcoming them over Trump!
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Post#1285 » by thelead » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:22 pm

Joe Biden has it all lined up for an easy win but come November:

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Post#1286 » by spinedoc » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:28 pm

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Gomagic44 wrote:His economic policies seemed to benefit the markets. But his foreign policy has been horrible. He abandoned the Kurds, gave Russia our bases, buddied up to Erdogan and MBS of Saudi Arabia. He let Turkish bodyguards beat up American citizens in Washington DC. He missed an opportunity to help the Venezuelans. He had that whole failed bromance with the NK dictator.I'm anti war largely and happy he didn't escalate in the middle east(other than ordering the assassination of a sovreign countries General) but how would anyone describe the "Trump doctrine" other than an abstract disaster.
BadMofoPimp wrote:As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.


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I think his team will run on the premise like Hillary, Joe is the type of guy who flip flops faster than a fish out of water. Says one thing one day, then jumps ship to the other side the next. Joe has just as many gaffes if not more in his arsenal to attack. This should be one of the most entertaining prez races in our lifetime!


Yeah, Joe makes a lot of gaffes, but at least we know his heart. He's been around a long time and we know what he believes in. He's been in politics a good while so he's had a chance to be on both sides of certain issues. We know where he stands on moral questions however. He may be looking old, but the government he would assemble would be complete and competent. To me, its a no brainer. The motto isn't the future, its "back in time". We have to go back to the road we turned off on. This road is dark, scary, and a dude with a leather mask and a chainsaw at the end of it. Shouldn't have stopped for gas and asked for directions from that weird gas station attendant.

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Post#1287 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:31 pm

thelead wrote:Joe Biden has it all lined up for an easy win but come November:

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Sadly, I believe you are correct.
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Post#1288 » by Gomagic44 » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:34 pm

Entertaining like a dumpster fire. As magic fans we do love those.
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Gomagic44 wrote:His economic policies seemed to benefit the markets. But his foreign policy has been horrible. He abandoned the Kurds, gave Russia our bases, buddied up to Erdogan and MBS of Saudi Arabia. He let Turkish bodyguards beat up American citizens in Washington DC. He missed an opportunity to help the Venezuelans. He had that whole failed bromance with the NK dictator.I'm anti war largely and happy he didn't escalate in the middle east(other than ordering the assassination of a sovreign countries General) but how would anyone describe the "Trump doctrine" other than an abstract disaster.
BadMofoPimp wrote:As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.


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I think his team will run on the premise like Hillary, Joe is the type of guy who flip flops faster than a fish out of water. Says one thing one day, then jumps ship to the other side the next. Joe has just as many gaffes if not more in his arsenal to attack. This should be one of the most entertaining prez races in our lifetime!


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Post#1289 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:34 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.


Even if I agreed with the comment about policies, the problem is he does “utter a word” and he does so ... a lot!! More importantly, his base of people hang his every word to the point of dangerous extremes. It becomes about more than politics and agendas. This isn’t a Left vs Right issue. This is a Correct vs. Trump issue. You need a proper leader of people.

There are many (moderate) Republicans I would welcome with open arms as the POTUS. That really isn’t a statement of the times of today. I would welcome many of them against a Bernie, Hilary, Gore, Biden or many dems we have seen recently. ... but oh boy would I slobber over welcoming them over Trump!


I am just so far agaist Socialism and the far left agenda that I would rather have an imbecile like Trump with him speaking his mind over the maniacs on the left. It is a sad state of affairs that we even have to choose like that, but there is only extreme right and left nowadays. I would rather they both work on moderate agreements.
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Post#1290 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:36 pm

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thelead wrote:Joe Biden has it all lined up for an easy win but come November:

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Sadly, I believe you are correct.


Until they have a one on one debate where Joe doesn't have a teleprompter telling him what to say, hahahaha.
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Post#1291 » by Gomagic44 » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:39 pm

See we can all agree Joe may likely screw this up for all of us! But I'll vote for him. I agree he will actually staff the government. And that's better than not staffing the government.

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MagicFan101 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.


Even if I agreed with the comment about policies, the problem is he does “utter a word” and he does so ... a lot!! More importantly, his base of people hang his every word to the point of dangerous extremes. It becomes about more than politics and agendas. This isn’t a Left vs Right issue. This is a Correct vs. Trump issue. You need a proper leader of people.

There are many (moderate) Republicans I would welcome with open arms as the POTUS. That really isn’t a statement of the times of today. I would welcome many of them against a Bernie, Hilary, Gore, Biden or many dems we have seen recently. ... but oh boy would I slobber over welcoming them over Trump!


I am just so far agaist Socialism and the far left agenda that I would rather have an imbecile like Trump with him speaking his mind over the maniacs on the left. It is a sad state of affairs that we even have to choose like that, but there is only extreme right and left nowadays. I would rather they both work on moderate agreements.


Could you give us a couple examples? Like the police department, fire department, or a social safety net like medicare? I don't see a far left agenda, and honestly I don't even know what that means.
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Post#1293 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:40 pm

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thelead wrote:Joe Biden has it all lined up for an easy win but come November:

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Sadly, I believe you are correct.


Until they have a one on one debate where Joe doesn't have a teleprompter telling him what to say, hahahaha.
Not sure Trump can stand up and tell lies about Biden on stage, like he did with Cruz. Biden would go after him. Like if Trump said something about Jill.

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Even if I agreed with the comment about policies, the problem is he does “utter a word” and he does so ... a lot!! More importantly, his base of people hang his every word to the point of dangerous extremes. It becomes about more than politics and agendas. This isn’t a Left vs Right issue. This is a Correct vs. Trump issue. You need a proper leader of people.

There are many (moderate) Republicans I would welcome with open arms as the POTUS. That really isn’t a statement of the times of today. I would welcome many of them against a Bernie, Hilary, Gore, Biden or many dems we have seen recently. ... but oh boy would I slobber over welcoming them over Trump!


I am just so far agaist Socialism and the far left agenda that I would rather have an imbecile like Trump with him speaking his mind over the maniacs on the left. It is a sad state of affairs that we even have to choose like that, but there is only extreme right and left nowadays. I would rather they both work on moderate agreements.


Could you give us a couple examples? Like the police department, fire department, or a social safety net like medicare? I don't see a far left agenda, and honestly I don't even know what that means.


Just read Pelosi's version of a Coronavirus bill. Instead of helping people, she created an entire agenda non-virus related.
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Post#1295 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Apr 9, 2020 7:44 pm

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Sadly, I believe you are correct.


Until they have a one on one debate where Joe doesn't have a teleprompter telling him what to say, hahahaha.
Not sure Trump can stand up and tell lies about Biden on stage, like he did with Cruz. Biden would go after him. Like if Trump said something about Jill.

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I am just so far agaist Socialism and the far left agenda that I would rather have an imbecile like Trump with him speaking his mind over the maniacs on the left. It is a sad state of affairs that we even have to choose like that, but there is only extreme right and left nowadays. I would rather they both work on moderate agreements.


Could you give us a couple examples? Like the police department, fire department, or a social safety net like medicare? I don't see a far left agenda, and honestly I don't even know what that means.


Just read Pelosi's version of a Coronavirus bill. Instead of helping people, she created an entire agenda non-virus related.


C'mon, too vague, and its low hanging fruit anyway. I wanted to know what you believe, not what/who you are against. That bill is being constructed to help states and local hospitals btw. Its politics to go back and forth to find common ground. The Republicans just wanted trickle down money going to corporations with no oversight. So, we can do this all day long. I'm interested to hear what you think is far left.
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Could you give us a couple examples? Like the police department, fire department, or a social safety net like medicare? I don't see a far left agenda, and honestly I don't even know what that means.


Just read Pelosi's version of a Coronavirus bill. Instead of helping people, she created an entire agenda non-virus related.


C'mon, too vague, and its low hanging fruit anyway. I wanted to know what you believe, not what/who you are against. That bill is being constructed to help states and local hospitals btw. Its politics to go back and forth to find common ground. The Republicans just wanted trickle down money going to corporations with no oversight. So, we can do this all day long. I'm interested to hear what you think is far left.


That is why both sides need to work together to come to a common ground instead of just extreme left or right.

Not sure how you think Pelosi pushing Mail in Voting into a Stimulus bill or Green New Deal initiatives.
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Until they have a one on one debate where Joe doesn't have a teleprompter telling him what to say, hahahaha.
Not sure Trump can stand up and tell lies about Biden on stage, like he did with Cruz. Biden would go after him. Like if Trump said something about Jill.

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Now, that would be hilarious to watch. I can't wait!
If Biden punks Trump, that'll be the end of him.

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basketballRob wrote:Not sure Trump can stand up and tell lies about Biden on stage, like he did with Cruz. Biden would go after him. Like if Trump said something about Jill.

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Now, that would be hilarious to watch. I can't wait!
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Just read Pelosi's version of a Coronavirus bill. Instead of helping people, she created an entire agenda non-virus related.


C'mon, too vague, and its low hanging fruit anyway. I wanted to know what you believe, not what/who you are against. That bill is being constructed to help states and local hospitals btw. Its politics to go back and forth to find common ground. The Republicans just wanted trickle down money going to corporations with no oversight. So, we can do this all day long. I'm interested to hear what you think is far left.


That is why both sides need to work together to come to a common ground instead of just extreme left or right.


True, but I think your perception is still off. You need to look at governments with an extreme leftist point of view to understand the difference. The tent on the left in this country is bigger and broader than your narrow description. Don't take the shortcut dude. :D

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