2020 Draft Thread

[ReasonablySober]

All these NFL teams bitching about the online draft is annoying. We're all adjusting to this pandemic, you're a multi billion dollar organization figure the **** out and stop the complaining.

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The dumbest part is MLB has basically done it via a conference call forever. There's no reason the NFL couldn't just copy them.

[Treebeard]

With the NFL, it's always about revenue. They probably see this altered draft as lost cash coming in the door, so they're going to whine. Plus, this was to be a sort of NFL grand opening for Las Vegas, so they're doubly pissed. Compared to the losses other businesses(farms, restaurants, etc) are taking, with much less likelihood of recovering their revenues, tough toenails, NFL.....

[Profound23]

All these NFL teams bitching about the online draft is annoying. We're all adjusting to this pandemic, you're a multi billion dollar organization figure the **** out and stop the complaining.

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Even more annoying are the fans complaining that the draft is going on. Like can we as sports fans have some fun at this time? I can’t play or watch basketball. I can’t go to the sports bars to watch anything. As an RN I spend 12 hours a day taking care of very sick patients, at least 4 days a week. Can I have a couple of days where I just zone out and enjoy watching the NFL draft?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

With the NFL, it's always about revenue. They probably see this altered draft as lost cash coming in the door, so they're going to whine. Plus, this was to be a sort of NFL grand opening for Las Vegas, so they're doubly pissed. Compared to the losses other businesses(farms, restaurants, etc) are taking, with much less likelihood of recovering their revenues, tough toenails, NFL.....

I don't understand why they don't want it now. If they push it to June and by the grace of God we can function as a society again, there is no way in hell I'm staying in 3 nights in a row to watch the draft. If they have the draft during a lockdown with all parks (just got an alert ), golf courses, and restaurants closed.....Sure I will stay at home and even watch it live through the commercials. Just put Mel Kiper back in his basement studio, have every agent who wants his client publicized send them a decent camera for reaction and interview, and have Goodell announce it in a robe- still better than having random people due it and trying to be funny/unique.

[WeekapaugGroove]

All these NFL teams bitching about the online draft is annoying. We're all adjusting to this pandemic, you're a multi billion dollar organization figure the **** out and stop the complaining.

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Even more annoying are the fans complaining that the draft is going on. Like can we as sports fans have some fun at this time? I can’t play or watch basketball. I can’t go to the sports bars to watch anything. As an RN I spend 12 hours a day taking care of very sick patients, at least 4 days a week. Can I have a couple of days where I just zone out and enjoy watching the NFL draft?

Absolutely. Some distraction is good in times like these.

Godspeed and major hat tip to you and all front line workers. Stay safe out there.

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[M-C-G]

I’m being lazy right now but I really hope this thread picks up some steam. The draft is the ONLY sports thing going on that has some semblance of normal for me !


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[BJ Sandered]

All these NFL teams bitching about the online draft is annoying. We're all adjusting to this pandemic, you're a multi billion dollar organization figure the **** out and stop the complaining.

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The dumbest part is MLB has basically done it via a conference call forever. There's no reason the NFL couldn't just copy them.

Ding ding ding. And personally, I'm tired as hell of the televised hoopla that the draft has become. Having seven rounds stretched out for three days is ridiculous.

[Profound23]

If I'm a GM for the NFL draft and I don't see a player I really love, I'm trading most of my picks for future picks. Rookies won't get a real camp this year and that will set them back, plus if they actually postpone some of the NFL season (latest news is we might not see any sports until Thanksgiving) it's pretty much not worth it. Imagine rolling the dice and having two picks in every round next season.

Not ideal for fans like us but it might be what's best for the team.

[M-C-G]

If I'm a GM for the NFL draft and I don't see a player I really love, I'm trading most of my picks for future picks. Rookies won't get a real camp this year and that will set them back, plus if they actually postpone some of the NFL season (latest news is we might not see any sports until Thanksgiving) it's pretty much not worth it. Imagine rolling the dice and having two picks in every round next season.

Not ideal for fans like us but it might be what's best for the team.

Or, you may see teams reaching on 'day 1 ready' talent and leaves more, less ready talent available for later picks.

[M-C-G]

Dream scenario
1. Murray or Queen are available in first, but I am thinking unlikely

So next dream scenario
2. Trade down with a team looking to take a QB in the first to get the extra year.
Pick (trade value)
GB 1st (620) GB 3rd (124) for LAC 2nd (525) LAC 3rd (235)...that would give us 37, 62, 71, 136, 176 in the first 5 rounds

37 - Reagor, Ayuik, Mims
62 - Clyde Edwards H
71 - Logan Wilson/Davis-Gaither/Willie Gay/Jordan Dye
136- Proche/Lynn Bowden
176- Antonio Gibson


From the CBS composite big board

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Ranking   Position   Player   School
1.   EDGE   Chase Young   Ohio St.
2.   QB   Joe Burrow   LSU
3.   LB   Isaiah Simmons   Clemson
4.   CB   Jeffrey Okudah   Ohio State
5.   QB   Tua Tagovailoa   Alabama
6.   OT   Jedrick Wills   Alabama
7.   DL   Derrick Brown   Auburn
8.   WR   CeeDee Lamb   Oklahoma
9.   OT   Tristan Wirfs   Iowa
10.   DL   Javon Kinlaw   South Carolina
11.   OT   Mekhi Becton   Louisville
12.   WR   Jerry Jeudy   Alabama
13.   EDGE   K'Lavon Chaisson   LSU
14.   WR   Henry Ruggs III   Alabama
15.   OT   Andrew Thomas   Georgia
16.   EDGE   A.J. Epenesa   Iowa
17.   S   Xavier McKinney   Alabama
18.   CB   CJ Henderson   Florida
19.   QB   Jordan Love   Utah State
20.   QB   Justin Herbert   Oregon
21.   EDGE   Yetur Gross-Matos   Penn St.
22.   CB   Kristian Fulton   LSU
23.   S   Grant Delpit   LSU
24.   RB   Jonathan Taylor   Wisconsin
25.   LB   Kenneth Murray   Oklahoma
26.   WR   Tee Higgins   Clemson
27.   DL   Neville Gallimore   Oklahoma
28.   CB   Trevon Diggs   Alabama
29.   DL   Ross Blacklock   TCU
30.   CB   A.J. Terrell   Clemson
31.   WR   Justin Jefferson   LSU
32.   OT   Josh Jones   Houston
33.   WR   Laviska Shenault Jr.   Colorado
34.   LB   Patrick Queen   LSU
35.   LB   Zack Baun   Wisconsin
36.   CB   Jeff Gladney   TCU
37.   CB   Noah Igbinoghene   Auburn
38.   WR   Brandon Aiyuk   Arizona St.
39.   QB   Jacob Eason   Washington
40.   CB   Bryce Hall   Virginia
41.   RB   D'Andre Swift   Georgia
42.   S   Ashtyn Davis   California
43.   WR   Denzel Mims   Baylor
44.   EDGE   Julian Okwara   Notre Dame
45.   WR   Jalen Reagor   TCU
46.   EDGE   Terrell Lewis   Alabama
47.   OT   Austin Jackson   USC
48.   EDGE   Curtis Weaver   Boise St.
49.   OT   Ezra Cleveland   Boise St.
50.   EDGE   Josh Uche   Michigan
51.   OT   Isaiah Wilson   Georgia
52.   RB   J.K. Dobbins   Ohio St.
53.   TE   Cole Kmet   Notre Dame
54.   S   Antoine Winfield Jr.   Minnesota
55.   RB   Cam Akers   Florida St.
56.   DL   Marlon Davidson   Auburn
57.   CB   Jaylon Johnson   Utah
58.   OT   Prince Tega Wanogho   Auburn
59.   WR   KJ Hamler   Penn St.
60.   C   Lloyd Cushenberry III   LSU
61.   CB   Damon Arnette   Ohio St.
62.   G   Netane Muti   Fresno St.
63.   CB   Cameron Dantzler   Miss. State
64.   OT   Lucas Niang   TCU
65.   S   Kyle Dugger   Lenoir-Rhyne
66.   WR   Bryan Edwards   South Carolina
67.   C   Cesar Ruiz   Michigan
68.   TE   Brycen Hopkins   Purdue
69.   WR   Michael Pittman Jr.   USC
70.   C   Tyler Biadasz   Wisconsin
71.   DL   Justin Madubuike   Texas A&M
72.   DL   Jordan Elliott   Missouri
73.   S   Terrell Burgess   Utah
74.   C   Nick Harris   Washington
75.   EDGE   Jonathan Greenard   Florida
76.   LB   Akeem Davis-Gaither   App. St.
77.   TE   Hunter Bryant   Washington
78.   TE   Adam Trautman   Dayton
79.   CB   Troy Pride Jr.   Notre Dame
80.   RB   Clyde Edwards-Helaire   LSU
81.   WR   Tyler Johnson   Minnesota
82.   WR   Chase Claypool   Notre Dame
83.   G   Robert Hunt   Louisiana
84.   LB   Troy Dye   Oregon
85.   RB   Zack Moss   Utah
86.   S   Jeremy Chinn   S. Illinois
87.   G   Jonah Jackson   Ohio St.
88.   WR   Donovan Peoples-Jones   Michigan
89.   EDGE   Bradlee Anae   Utah
90.   C   Matt Hennessy   Temple
91.   G   Solomon Kindley   Georgia
92.   EDGE   Darrell Taylor   Tennessee
93.   WR   Devin Duvernay   Texas
94.   WR   Antonio Gandy-Golden   Liberty
95.   EDGE   Jabari Zuniga   Florida
96.   CB   Lamar Jackson   Nebraska
97.   OT   Alex Taylor   SC State
98.   WR   Van Jefferson   Florida
99.   LB   Malik Harrison   Ohio St.
100.   OT   Matt Peart   Connecticut
101.   EDGE   Khalid Kareem   Notre Dame
102.   OT   Jack Driscoll   Auburn
103.   DL   Raekwon Davis   Alabama
104.   CB   Michael Ojemudia   Iowa
105.   DL   Davon Hamilton   Ohio St.
106.   TE   Harrison Bryant   FAU
107.   OT   Trey Adams   Washington
108.   LB   Willie Gay Jr.   Miss. State
109.   S   Julian Blackmon   Utah
110.   CB   Essang Bassey   Wake Forest
111.   TE   Albert Okwuegbunam   Missouri
112.   CB   Amik Robertson   Louisiana Tech
113.   OT   Ben Bartch   St. John's (MN)
114.   S   K'Von Wallace   Clemson
115.   G   Ben Bredeson   Michigan
116.   QB   Jake Fromm   Georgia
117.   CB   Darnay Holmes   UCLA
118.   S   J.R. Reed   Georgia
119.   G   Logan Stenberg   Kentucky
120.   WR   K.J. Hill   Ohio St.
121.   G   Damien Lewis   LSU
122.   S   Brandon Jones   Texas
123.   WR   Jauan Jennings   Tennessee
124.   G   Kevin Dotson   Louisiana
125.   RB   Anthony McFarland Jr.   Maryland
126.   WR   Gabriel Davis   UCF
127.   G   John Simpson   Clemson
128.   QB   Jalen Hurts   Oklahoma
129.   G   Hakeem Adeniji   Kansas
130.   RB   Ke'Shawn Vaughn   Vanderbilt
131.   RB   Eno Benjamin   Arizona St.
132.   G   Calvin Throckmorton   Oregon
133.   EDGE   Alton Robinson   Syracuse
134.   DL   Rashard Lawrence   LSU
135.   S   Geno Stone   Iowa
136.   WR   James Proche   SMU
137.   WR   Isaiah Hodgins   Oregon St.
138.   WR   Lynn Bowden Jr.   Kentucky
139.   WR   Collin Johnson   Texas
140.   EDGE   Kenny Willekes   Michigan St.
141.   CB   Javaris Davis   Auburn
142.   DL   Jason Strowbridge   North Carolina
143.   CB   Dane Jackson   Pittsburgh
144.   CB   Josiah Scott   Michigan St.
145.   OT   Charlie Heck   North Carolina
146.   WR   Kalija Lipscomb   Vanderbilt
147.   C   Darryl Williams   Miss. State
148.   EDGE   Jonathan Garvin   Miami (Fla.)
149.   LB   Logan Wilson   Wyoming
150.   EDGE   Anfernee Jennings   Alabama
151.   EDGE   Alex Highsmith   Charlotte
152.   TE   Cheyenne O'Grady   Arkansas
153.   TE   Jacob Breeland   Oregon
154.   TE   Thaddeus Moss   LSU
155.   TE   Jared Pinkney   Vanderbilt
156.   RB   AJ Dillon   Boston College
157.   DL   James Lynch   Baylor
158.   TE   Devin Asiasi   UCLA
159.   DL   Leki Fotu   Utah
160.   CB   Nevelle Clarke   UCF
161.   DL   Larrell Murchison   NC State
162.   G   Shane Lemieux   Oregon
163.   S   Brian Cole II   Miss. State
164.   CB   Myles Bryant   Washington
165.   LB   Jordyn Brooks   Texas Tech
166.   RB   Lamical Perine   Florida
167.   EDGE   Nick Coe   Auburn
168.   OT   Saahdiq Charles   LSU
169.   G   Yasir Durant   Missouri
170.   CB   Kindle Vildor   Ga. Southern
171.   WR   John Hightower   Boise St.
172.   DL   Raequan Williams   Michigan St.
173.   LB   Cam Brown   Penn St.
174.   C   Jake Hanson   Oregon
175.   LB   Markus Bailey   Purdue
176.   C   Trystan Colon-Castillo   Missouri
177.   CB   A.J. Green   Oklahoma St.
178.   QB   Anthony Gordon   Washington St.
179.   RB   Joshua Kelley   UCLA
180.   WR   Quez Watkins   So. Miss
181.   WR   Aaron Fuller   Washington
182.   LB   David Woodward   Utah St.
183.   DL   Khalil Davis   Nebraska
184.   LB   Michael Divinity Jr.   LSU
185.   DL   Malcolm Roach   Texas
186.   DL   Robert Landers   Ohio St.
187.   LB   Joe Bachie   Michigan St.
188.   RB   Javon Leake   Maryland
189.   TE   Colby Parkinson   Stanford
190.   CB   Lavert Hill   Michigan
191.   LB   Khaleke Hudson   Michigan
192.   CB   Harrison Hand   Temple
193.   S   Jordan Fuller   Ohio St.
194.   C   Zach Shackelford   Texas
195.   EDGE   Derrek Tuszka   N. Dakota St.
196.   LB   Jacob Phillips   LSU
197.   WR   Quintez Cephus   Wisconsin
198.   TE   Stephen Sullivan   LSU
199.   DL   Josiah Coatney   Ole Miss
200.   OT   Justin Herron   Wake Forest
201.   RB   Antonio Gibson   Memphis
202.   WR   Darrell Stewart Jr.   Michigan St.
203.   WR   Quartney Davis   Texas A&M
204.   CB   Reggie Robinson II   Tulsa
205.   CB   John Reid   Penn St.
206.   G   Cordel Iwuagwu   TCU
207.   EDGE   Kendall Coleman   Syracuse
208.   EDGE   Trevis Gipson   Tulsa
209.   RB   James Robinson   Illinois St.
210.   EDGE   Trevon Hill   Miami (Fla.)
211.   S   Josh Metellus   Michigan
212.   DL   McTelvin Agim   Arkansas
213.   DL   Benito Jones   Ole Miss
214.   LB   Kamal Martin   Minnesota
215.   WR   Omar Bayless   Arkansas St.
216.   LB   Evan Weaver   California
217.   RB   Darrynton Evans   App. St.
218.   LB   Francis Bernard   Utah
219.   G   Tre'Vour Wallace-Simms   Missouri
220.   G   Michael Onwenu   Michigan
221.   RB   Darius Anderson   TCU
222.   RB   J.J. Taylor   Arizona
223.   EDGE   D.J. Wonnum   South Carolina
224.   OT   Colton McKivitz   West Virginia
225.   G   Drew Richmond   USC
226.   QB   James Morgan   FIU
227.   WR   Isaiah Coulter   Rhode Island
228.   QB   Brian Lewerke   Michigan St.
229.   DL   Tyler Clark   Georgia
230.   S   Myles Dorn   North Carolina
231.   G   Danny Pinter   Ball St.
232.   DL   Bravvion Roy   Baylor
233.   S   Shyheim Carter   Alabama
234.   S   Jalen Elliott   Notre Dame
235.   RB   Raymond Calais   Louisiana
236.   S   Antoine Brooks Jr.   Maryland
237.   DL   Robert Windsor   Penn St.
238.   S   Alohi Gilman   Notre Dame
239.   LB   Justin Strnad   Wake Forest
240.   WR   Kendrick Rogers   Texas A&M
241.   G   Sean Pollard   Clemson
242.   TE   Ahmad Wagner   Kentucky
243.   QB   Jake Luton   Oregon St.
244.   QB   Bryce Perkins   Virginia
245.   RB   Patrick Taylor Jr.   Memphis
246.   QB   Cole McDonald   Hawaii
247.   QB   Steven Montez   Colorado
248.   TE   Mitchell Wilcox   South Florida
249.   RB   Michael Warren II   Cincinnati
250.   LB   Carter Coughlin   Minnesota
251.   QB   Nate Stanley   Iowa
252.   G   Tremayne Anchrum   Clemson
253.   LB   Davion Taylor   Colorado
254.   OT   Scott Frantz   Kansas St.
255.   WR   Binjimen Victor   Ohio St.
256.   S   Jared Mayden   Alabama
257.   G   Jon Runyan   Michigan
258.   EDGE   Oluwole Betiku Jr.   Illinois
259.   RB   Salvon Ahmed   Washington
260.   LB   Jordan Mack   Virginia
261.   G   Tyre Phillips   Miss. State
262.   EDGE   Chauncey Rivers   Miss. State
263.   WR   Aaron Parker   Rhode Island
264.   WR   Isaiah Wright   Temple
265.   WR   Juwan Johnson   Oregon
266.   OT   Terence Steele   Texas Tech
267.   CB   Stanford Samuels III   Florida St.
268.   G   Cameron Clark   Charlotte
269.   WR   Joe Reed   Virginia
270.   LB   Shaquille Quarterman   Miami (Fla.)
271.   WR   Stephen Guidry   Miss. State
272.   RB   Scottie Phillips   Ole Miss
273.   TE   Josiah Deguara   Cincinnati
274.   EDGE   Qaadir Sheppard   Ole Miss
275.   RB   LeVante Bellamy   W. Michigan
276.   DL   Darrion Daniels   Nebraska
277.   LB   Casey Toohill   Stanford
278.   DL   John Penisini   Utah
279.   TE   Sean McKeon   Michigan
280.   LB   Mykal Walker   Fresno St.
281.   LB   Daniel Bituli   Tennessee
282.   RB   Rico Dowdle   South Carolina
283.   WR   Lawrence Cager   Georgia
284.   RB   Benny LeMay   Charlotte
285.   WR   K.J. Osborn   Miami (Fla.)
286.   RB   Sewo Olonilua   TCU
287.   C   Keith Ismael   San Diego St.
288.   CB   Trajan Bandy   Miami (Fla.)
289.   TE   Dalton Keene   Virginia Tech
290.   S   Daniel Thomas   Auburn
291.   QB   Kevin Davidson   Princeton
292.   WR   Trishton Jackson   Syracuse
293.   EDGE   James Smith-Williams   NC State
294.   DL   Carlos Davis   Nebraska
295.   RB   DeeJay Dallas   Miami (Fla.)
296.   WR   Jeff Thomas   Miami (Fla.)
297.   G   John Molchon   Boise St.
298.   S   Tanner Muse   Clemson
299.   C   Cohl Cabral   Arizona St.
300.   RB   Tony Jones Jr.   Notre Dame

[Treebeard]

For LB's, Simmons goes the first ten, by most mocks. Marshall and Queen go anywhere from #20 to #40, with most speculation leaning to #20 #25(from what I've seen). Baun usually falls in that same range, but some see him as an Edge, some see him as a hybrid.

Also, I've seen more predictions of Tackles, or other Oline in that #5 to #25 range - one source guessing up to 10 oline guys in the first!

Then, of course, how many teams go into the QB sweeps?

A long-winded way of saying, either the primo WR the Pack wants is there, or do the trade back into the early second and combine some of the draft capital to pick up another third or forth round pick? I can't see them hanging on to three sixth rounders and two sevenths.

There are some decent options there

[M-C-G]

For LB's, Simmons goes the first ten, by most mocks. Marshall and Queen go anywhere from #20 to #40, with most speculation leaning to #20 #25(from what I've seen). Baun usually falls in that same range, but some see him as an Edge, some see him as a hybrid.

Also, I've seen more predictions of Tackles, or other Oline in that #5 to #25 range - one source guessing up to 10 oline guys in the first!

Then, of course, how many teams go into the QB sweeps?

A long-winded way of saying, either the primo WR the Pack wants is there, or do the trade back into the early second and combine some of the draft capital to pick up another third or forth round pick? I can't see them hanging on to three sixth rounders and two sevenths.

There are some decent options there

I think 3 WR will for sure go in the first, after that it is all bets are off because of how deep this WR class is. Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb should all be off the board. So I could see something crazy, where because of the depth, people decide to wait, potentially pushing a lot of 1st round talent into the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Or, we see a big run on WR because no one wants to miss out on grabbing a playmaker.

I'm just excited with the WR/ILB talent in this draft.

[ReasonablySober]

I keep coming back to the kid from Southern Ill.

Simmons is 6'4" 238 lbs
Queen is 6' 229
Murray is 6'2" 241

Chinn is 6'3" 221. Doesn't have the bulk of those guys, but is that what we really need? Derwin James was 6'2", 215 when he came out and Chinn is an even better athlete across the board while being 6 lbs bigger. I love the idea of adding a big, athletic monster-back in the middle of the defense.

[Frank Nova]

I keep coming back to the kid from Southern Ill.

Simmons is 6'4" 238 lbs
Queen is 6' 229
Murray is 6'2" 241

Chinn is 6'3" 221. Doesn't have the bulk of those guys, but is that what we really need? Derwin James was 6'2", 215 when he came out and Chinn is an even better athlete across the board while being 6 lbs bigger. I love the idea of adding a big, athletic monster-back in the middle of the defense.

Idk man, I mean I’ve seen you pimp Chinn pretty hard over the past few weeks and I’m genuinely wondering what you’re seeing besides an athlete? The ONLY thing I see Chinn has in common with Derwin James is physical size. He shows insanely poor awareness on the back end, constantly putting himself on an island by misreading plays. I’m really not sold on him at all. Can his physical tools make splash plays from time to time? Sure. Will it show up in the pros when EVERYONE is bigger, stronger and faster? Idk. Are you willing to gamble the 30th pick in a critical draft? I’m not...

Aaron Rouse is probably my favorite comp for him. (shout out MCG).

Obviously I could be way wrong but he just doesn’t show a ton of smarts out there. And that’s a big red flag to me. With how advanced and high powered offenses are in the NFL, a player that just runs around like a maniac that can’t ever seem to be in the right place at the right time, I don’t see him making a huge name for himself.

Having said all that, I’d like to close by saying what I say at work all the time: “I’m just a dumb mailman, wtf do I know”. Lol.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Will be interesting to see if guys with injury red flags really fall. Without being able to bring guys in I could see teams be very risk adverse.

Looks like the T group late 1st or 2nd round is pretty good. WR would be a more exciting pick but might be better to grab the T early and take advantage of the WR depth mid rounds.

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[tski1972]

what are peoples top three choices for WR, LB, DT, and OT for the Packers knowing obviously they have to acquire them at different points in the draft.

[Daver]

[quote="tski1972"]what are peoples top three choices for WR, LB, DT, and OT for the Packers knowing obviously they have to acquire them at different points in the draft.[/


Wrs
1.jefferson
1b mims
LBs
1.murray
1b dude from iowa state?
OT
Im sorry dont know

[WeekapaugGroove]

Anyone have any good podcast recommendations to prep for the draft?

Now that I have kids I just don't watch enough college football to have any real knowledge of these players.

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[Frank Nova]

what are peoples top three choices for WR, LB, DT, and OT for the Packers knowing obviously they have to acquire them at different points in the draft.

WR (no order) - Aiyuk, Mims, Reagor

LB (order) - Murray, Queen, Brooks

DT (order) - Raekwon Davis, Neville Gallimore, Ross Blacklock

OT (order) - Austin Jackson, Josh Jones, Tyler Biadasz

That’s just who I like at 30 at those 4 positions you mentioned. Doubtful any make it to 62 but we could get lucky I suppose.

[Mags FTW]

Anyone have any good podcast recommendations to prep for the draft?

Now that I have kids I just don't watch enough college football to have any real knowledge of these players.

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Kiper and McShay did a mock where they each drafted an entire team of rookies. Haven't listened to it, but it would probably be a good change of pace and show who they think the best players are rather than teams drafting for need.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dueling-superteams/id304434112?i=1000470916362