2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

[Gravy]

Nico Mannion and Theo Maledon look like this year's sleeper picks since no one is really talking about them and they will be out of our range/considered a reach if we are around pick 6-10.

[3toheadmelo]

He might be one of those Kentucky guards that are slept on and end up being really good (Booker/SGA/Herro).

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[Deeeez Knicks]

Anthony Edwards is probably the closest to Mitchell in terms of style of play and potential

I was just thinking that too. He has the size and ability to get his shot off and score from anywhere. But he will likely be a top 2 pick so was looking at people projected later in the lottery.

Ah ok. RJ Hampton looks like a serious sleeper candidate who looks to have that type of potential also

I am not sure what to make of Hampton but he is a sleeper. I haven't really seen him too much to have a strong opinion. I know he was highly regarded coming out though.

Maxey is another one with similarities...more of a combo guard/undersized SG, plays tough defense. Shot below 30% from 3, but has good form and a good FT shooter. He can finish in the lane and score in a variety of ways. If his shooting comes around could be a nice scoring guard.

[8516knicks]

Warming up for 6. Hayes 27. Sticks Smith 37. Cassius Stanley

Could be 3 useful young players with skills (PG; do it all tall forward and shooting guard with D) we need that mesh with RJ and Mitch. Maybe get FVF in free agency. Then add those other draft picks down the line we'll be mediocre plus but young and attractive to luring a future big money superstar in a few years.

[robillionaire]

He might be one of those Kentucky guards that are slept on and end up being really good (Booker/SGA/Herro).

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he actually is good. was probably the best player on UK. He shot 42.8% from 3 and 92.3% from the FT line. with that said he's a little undersized for a SG. But makes up for it with wingspan. He can shoot the rock though. Also nick richards had a solid year at center and I look for him to be a sleeper in the 2nd round

[3toheadmelo]

He might be one of those Kentucky guards that are slept on and end up being really good (Booker/SGA/Herro).

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he actually is good. was probably the best player on UK. He shot 42.8% from 3 and 92.3% from the FT line. with that said he's a little undersized for a SG. But makes up for it with wingspan. He can shoot the rock though. Also nick richards had a solid year at center and I look for him to be a sleeper in the 2nd round

Yeah I think I like him the most out of the UK players. Whats your thoughts on Maxey? He reminds me of Sexton but a worse version of him. I think I would pass on him but I have not seen much UK games to have a strong opinion

[moocow007]

Pick 27

Can Tyler Bey be the next Kawhi Leonard? - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect - Defensive Breakdown

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Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead.

In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was (Bey has better form than Roberson had at the same age) but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender. And there's actually nothing wrong if Bey turned out to be Roberson cause Roberson's started 269 of the 296 games in the NBA he's played in across 4.5 seasons. If a team can get another Andre Roberson (one of the best wing defenders in the league according to advanced stats) at 27 then that would probably be considered a job well done for any NBA GM.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else since obviously a lot less likely anyone bother watching the clip if it was titled "Can Tyler Bey be the next Andre Roberson?".

Now as far as the Knicks drafting Bey with the Clippers pick? I think Bey would be a great pick for a team looking to compete for a title (bottom of the 1st round). For the Knicks? The Knicks could use defense but they need so much right now that I don't know that an Andre Roberson type would ever really get much of a look. I would stick with trying to find someone that can be a super diamond in the rough than playing it safe with someone like Bey. The same group of guys consisting of Vernon Carey, Kira Lewis, Jalen Smith, etc.

[HEZI]

Pick 27

Can Tyler Bey be the next Kawhi Leonard? - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect - Defensive Breakdown

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Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead. In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else.

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

[HarthorneWingo]

You think we knew Donovan would be good? I don't recall many posters regretting that we passed on him on draft day.

As I recall, the issue with him was that we were really looking for a PG at the time and Mitchell was viewed as a 6'3" shooting guard, which was seen as undersized. That said, I also recall that Donovan killed it in the pre-draft workouts, so his talent was on display back before we picked.

His talent was in such a display that he dropped to 13 and the mavs (who scout well) took dsj instead of him.

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And I bet they regret, like a lot of other teams, for not believing their own eyes.

[moocow007]

Pick 27

Can Tyler Bey be the next Kawhi Leonard? - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect - Defensive Breakdown

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Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead. In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else.

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

Bey is a lot like Andre Roberson type player. Roberson also played for Colorado and was known as a superb defensive wing with long arms and a great understanding of defensive positioning. Roberson was drafted 26th overall in the 1st round by a team looking to fill a specific role/need which is probably in the same range Bey will go as well and for the same type of reason. I'd say he'll start drawing interest around 23 with Miami, 24 with Utah, the Raptors at 28 or no worse than the Lakers at 29.

[RHODEY]

I think the biggest question for Mitchell was how big of a scorer and efficient he could be in the NBA. He only avg 15ppg as a sophmore, 40%fg. As a freshman he was only at 25% from 3, but improved a lot to 35%. He was great at the line at 80%.

A lot of people liked him and the way he played and he passed the eye test, but think he was always perceived as having a lower upside due to the scoring/inefficiency/inconsistency...Pat Berverly was a comparison thrown around a lot. I don't think many people saw him being a big scorer. Obviously, that was not right. I liked him too, but thought he was a guy to target after pick 10. There was maybe a few people that really liked him and would have taken him high, credit to them.

If we are trying to find the Donovan Mitchell in this draft, it might be Cole Anthony. He has been pretty inefficient and inconsistent but he is a guy that could be much better and has the NBA game. He is not the defender that Mitchell was, but has good athletiscm. Or maybe it's Haliburton. A lot of people consider him having a low ceiling due to the lack of scoring, but he passes the eye test. Or maybe more likely there is nobody like Mitchell in this draft. That's why I love the draft and this thread. There's always things we could all be right or wrong about, and so much unknown. But love hearing everyone's opinions and thoughts.

Anthony Edwards is probably the closest to Mitchell in terms of style of play and potential

One thing about Tyrese is I don't feel he will ever be a star. I believe he'll be more of that Mike Conley type of player that does every thing you need him to do on your team, but never be good enough to step across the line of becoming a star. But he will make his team better and because of that he's hard to pass on.

I say, Mike Conley in his prime was a boarderline star . a core two way player for a perennially tough out western conference playoff team .... pretty much what Donavan Mitchelll is perceived to be now. So if you think Hali can be that I'm golden.

[moocow007]

Conservative? Definitely not. If we were being conservative we would have players like Mikal Bridges and Donovan Mitchell. Players we all knew were good after seeing them play and improve through two years in College. (Next up Tyrese Haliburton). We always get project players that are expected to take 4 years to learn the game, KP was a definite surprise in which no one thought he would be good in his first year.

You think we knew Donovan would be good? I don't recall many posters regretting that we passed on him on draft day.

As I recall, the issue with him was that we were really looking for a PG at the time and Mitchell was viewed as a 6'3" shooting guard, which was seen as undersized. That said, I also recall that Donovan killed it in the pre-draft workouts, so his talent was on display back before we picked.

Yeah. As a big Louisville fan, Mitchell's problem was that folks questioned whether he could score in the NBA to make up for his lack of traditional PG skills. People loved the intensity, the physical tools, the leadership, the defensive skills and his ability to be play huge in big games. Mitchell was pretty much expected to do everything and carry that team. Weren't a whole lot of talent and Mitchell had to work for pretty much every point he got. Resulted in more than ideal number of forced up shots that on a different team probably would not have to have been forced which in turn made it seem like he may not be the best offensive player especially when trying to project him to the NBA. Honestly I didn't think he could either and I said so leading up to the draft when some were saying the Knicks should draft him. Loved everything else about him (Mitchell was elite in most areas) it was always just "can he score enough in the NBA'. Guess he could lol.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Pick 27

Can Tyler Bey be the next Kawhi Leonard? - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect - Defensive Breakdown

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Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead. In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else.

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

Pretty much, also Kawhi has some of the most freakish measurements for a perimeter player in the league, the wingspan(7'3") & hands of a center bolted onto a 6'7" frame makes for a incredibly unique player.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead. In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else.

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

Bey is a lot like Andre Roberson. Roberson also played for Colorado and was known as a superb defensive wing with long arms and a great understanding of defensive positioning. Roberson was drafted 26th overall in the 1st round by a team looking to fill a specific role/need which is probably in the same range Bey will go as well and for the same type of reason. I'd say he'll start drawing interest around 23 with Miami, 24 with Utah, the Raptors at 28 or no worse than the Lakers at 29.

Yeah, he is closer to Roberson then Kawhi. I like Bey in the later rounds, but he is not close to Kawhi. He is really far from being able to create/handle/shoot off the dribble on offense. He is also 22 so not sure you can count on him developing very much.

But he could still be a good role player that plays great defense which we could always use.

[3toheadmelo]

Pick 27

Can Tyler Bey be the next Kawhi Leonard? - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect - Defensive Breakdown

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Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead. In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else.

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

Thoughts on Isaac Okoro? Someone here compared him to Kawhi and now DX has him going #3. I dont see it though and I dont think he should go that high at all.

[HarthorneWingo]

You think we knew Donovan would be good? I don't recall many posters regretting that we passed on him on draft day.

As I recall, the issue with him was that we were really looking for a PG at the time and Mitchell was viewed as a 6'3" shooting guard, which was seen as undersized. That said, I also recall that Donovan killed it in the pre-draft workouts, so his talent was on display back before we picked.

Yeah. As a big Louisville fan, Mitchell's problem was that folks questioned whether he could score in the NBA to make up for his lack of traditional PG skills. People loved the intensity, the physical tools, the leadership, the defensive skills and his ability to be play huge in big games. Mitchell was pretty much expected to do everything and carry that team. Weren't a whole lot of talent and Mitchell had to work for pretty much every point he got. Resulted in more than ideal number of forced up shots that on a different team probably would not have to have been forced which in turn made it seem like he may not be the best offensive player especially when trying to project him to the NBA. Honestly I didn't think he could either and I said so leading up to the draft when some were saying the Knicks should draft him. Loved everything else about him (Mitchell was elite in most areas) it was always just "can he score enough in the NBA'. Guess he could lol.

I wasn't as aware of him during his college career as you were but after reading up about him during the pre-draft workouts, I pretty much was at the same place on him. But if we have a chance to get him, would you give up RJ and first round pick?

[3toheadmelo]

[Zenzibar]

Pick 27

Can Tyler Bey be the next Kawhi Leonard? - 2020 NBA Draft Prospect - Defensive Breakdown

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Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead.

In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was (Bey has better form than Roberson had at the same age) but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender. And there's actually nothing wrong if Bey turned out to be Roberson cause Roberson's started 269 of the 296 games in the NBA he's played in across 4.5 seasons. If a team can get another Andre Roberson (one of the best wing defenders in the league according to advanced stats) at 27 then that would probably be considered a job well done for any NBA GM.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else since obviously a lot less likely anyone bother watching the clip if it was titled "Can Tyler Bey be the next Andre Roberson?".

Now as far as the Knicks drafting Bey with the Clippers pick? I think Bey would be a great pick for a team looking to compete for a title (bottom of the 1st round). For the Knicks? The Knicks could use defense but they need so much right now that I don't know that an Andre Roberson type would ever really get much of a look. I would stick with trying to find someone that can be a super diamond in the rough than playing it safe with someone like Bey. The same group of guys consisting of Vernon Carey, Kira Lewis, Jalen Smith, etc.

WOW , that was a long ass reply. You must have a lot of time of your hands, oh wait...

Question though. How many full games of Colorado have you seen?

[Zenzibar]

Is there an offensive breakdown? Kawhi Leonard is Kawhi Leonard because of what he can do on both sides of the ball (as well as the big wingspan and monster sized hands). If he's just Kawhi Leonard on the defensive end, and I'll be quite honest, what makes Leonard who he is on the defensive end is more than just effort and intensity, then this vid should be titled probably more so "Can Tyler Bey be the next Justise Winslow, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah A Moute (etc)" instead. In fact Andre Roberson, who like Bey also attended the University of Colorado and who, like Bey, also was a long armed athletic defensive force, may be a better comp for Tyler Bey. Bey is a tick better as a shooter than Roberson was but Roberson I'd argue was a better defender.

Guys like Leonard has a smoothness to their game so that they don't need to look like a chicken with their head cut off and still be everywhere on defense and shutting opposing players down. They don't need to be dunking and exploding to the basket and expending all that energy, and still before you know it they've scored 25 points in all sorts of ways. Guys like Leonard (and Steph Curry, and James Harden, Rusell Westbrook, Dwayne Wade and every other superstar player) has a 'naturalness' (be it explosive based or finesse based or some combination) to their game that makes them seem both effortless and dominant all at the same time. That's what you look for if you want to project someone as a possible superstar player in the NBA.

I'm not sure I see that in Bey. He does have long arms and moves his feet well and built like an ideal NBA wing (why Kawhi Leonard was brought into the discussion). But I think that comparison is just a bit nuts and really more click bait and wishful thinking than anything else.

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

Thoughts on Isaac Okoro? Someone here compared him to Kawhi and now DX has him going #3. I dont see it though and I dont think he should go that high at all.

You guys are comparing today's Kwahii with the little Kwahii kid coming out of college. Funny.

This is Kwahi's draft.net profile, no one thought that much of him, BTW.

NBA Comparison: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute/ Gerald Wallace.

Strengths: A hybrid forward with terrific length … He has a high motor and plays the game with a lot of energy … Spends majority of the time on the perimeter, but occasionally shows the ability to play with his back to the basket … Uses an effective turnaround jumper inside when posting up … An agile athlete, his strides are extremely long and he covers a lot of space when running the floor … Shows improvement in majority of areas from freshman to sophomore seasons … His shooting has improved and he has become a respectable threat from the outside … Operating out of the triple threat, he combines a nice jab with a fairly quick and long first step to create separation … He has a strong preference going to his pull-up jumper, and once he gets into a rhythm he can string a number makes together (his length and high release make it a difficult shot to contest) … He is fairly comfortable handling the ball in the open court and is capable of pushing it out off the rebound when the situation calls for it … Even with the improvements to his offensive game, he still continues to contribute heavily in the rebounding department … His huge hangs, length, energy and great timing, allow him to snatch balls on both ends that are well outside of his rebounding area … An extremely quick jumper, he is very good at tipping the ball and keeping it alive on the rim … Has the instincts and shows potential in becoming a very solid defender … His ability to get out in the passing lanes and also contest shots inside make him a very dangerous weapon on the defensive end …

Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

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[3toheadmelo]

Guys like him need to be compared to Stanley Johnson and OG Anunoby before we even think of Kawhi territory. Year after year guys get compared to Kawhi and never come even close.

Thoughts on Isaac Okoro? Someone here compared him to Kawhi and now DX has him going #3. I dont see it though and I dont think he should go that high at all.

You guys are comparing today's Kwahii with the little Kwahii kid coming out of college. Funny.

This is Kwahi's draft.net profile, no one thought that much of him, BTW.

NBA Comparison: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute/ Gerald Wallace.

Strengths: A hybrid forward with terrific length … He has a high motor and plays the game with a lot of energy … Spends majority of the time on the perimeter, but occasionally shows the ability to play with his back to the basket … Uses an effective turnaround jumper inside when posting up … An agile athlete, his strides are extremely long and he covers a lot of space when running the floor … Shows improvement in majority of areas from freshman to sophomore seasons … His shooting has improved and he has become a respectable threat from the outside … Operating out of the triple threat, he combines a nice jab with a fairly quick and long first step to create separation … He has a strong preference going to his pull-up jumper, and once he gets into a rhythm he can string a number makes together (his length and high release make it a difficult shot to contest) … He is fairly comfortable handling the ball in the open court and is capable of pushing it out off the rebound when the situation calls for it … Even with the improvements to his offensive game, he still continues to contribute heavily in the rebounding department … His huge hangs, length, energy and great timing, allow him to snatch balls on both ends that are well outside of his rebounding area … An extremely quick jumper, he is very good at tipping the ball and keeping it alive on the rim … Has the instincts and shows potential in becoming a very solid defender … His ability to get out in the passing lanes and also contest shots inside make him a very dangerous weapon on the defensive end …

Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

Borko Popic 2/1/11

Looking at Kawhi's highlights, there is tons of flashes that show that he was going to be great. You still see his fadeaways, killer mid range game, creating shots off the dribble.. etc. Reading the comments people are agreeing with that as well. Kawhi plays basically the same way he did in college. Looks like Kawhi really perfected his shot since college which made him much more lethal.

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I dont see this type of game in Isaac Okoro or other players being compared to Kawhi in this draft. And please dont post anything from nbadraft.net bro. They are quite terrible