Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[RoLo]

They overreact with people potentially catching the virus at an outdoor sporting event or any activity outdoors. The issue is indoor places where fresh air doesn't come in and the bad air can't escape. I can understand being at an indoor basketball or an indoor hockey game when your indoors. But Football, baseball, golf and tennis are played outdoors where fresh air is always available and any bad air goes up into the sky away from people possibly being infected. The only indoor area at an outdoor sporting event is the restrooms but we can still social distance in the restrooms if need be.

But we do need to get the economy/country back up and try to get as many things back to normal. Things like dining in at a restaurant that should come back right now. But large gatherings shouldn't comeback yet. I think Gym's can re-open like LA fitness that I go to. It would be great to get LA fitness back and compete with people on the basketball court. I need to get back LA fitness, bodysurfing, dining in at restaurant, sporting events.

u do understand that they refer to Italy's soccer game as the impetus that made their caseload explode, right? if u want to go hit the courts with 9 others then go do u, man. nothings stopping u.

[bwgood77]

It's a free tax credit of $1200 you otherwise wouldn't have gotten. Read the last paragraph - it will only work in your favor, and you won't be taxed more because of it. It's set up this way so that people who are not eligible for the check based on their 2019 (or 2018) income can still remain eligible based on their 2020 income (which will be reported as a part of the 2020 tax return next year).

Yes, sounds like a good thing. Someone who didn't think they would get one because they made too much in 2018 or 19 might end up getting one as a credit on their 2020 taxes if they fall within the threshold because they lost earnings.

[bwgood77]

They overreact with people potentially catching the virus at an outdoor sporting event or any activity outdoors. The issue is indoor places where fresh air doesn't come in and the bad air can't escape. I can understand being at an indoor basketball or an indoor hockey game when your indoors. But Football, baseball, golf and tennis are played outdoors where fresh air is always available and any bad air goes up into the sky away from people possibly being infected. The only indoor area at an outdoor sporting event is the restrooms but we can still social distance in the restrooms if need be.

But we do need to get the economy/country back up and try to get as many things back to normal. Things like dining in at a restaurant that should come back right now. But large gatherings shouldn't comeback yet. I think Gym's can re-open like LA fitness that I go to. It would be great to get LA fitness back and compete with people on the basketball court. I need to get back LA fitness, bodysurfing, dining in at restaurant, sporting events.

u do understand that they refer to Italy's soccer game as the impetus that made their caseload explode, right? if u want to go hit the courts with 9 others then go do u, man. nothings stopping u.

Florida may end up leading the charge in re-opening things, so he may be in luck to have more to do.

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[SpreeS]

They overreact with people potentially catching the virus at an outdoor sporting event or any activity outdoors. The issue is indoor places where fresh air doesn't come in and the bad air can't escape. I can understand being at an indoor basketball or an indoor hockey game when your indoors. But Football, baseball, golf and tennis are played outdoors where fresh air is always available and any bad air goes up into the sky away from people possibly being infected. The only indoor area at an outdoor sporting event is the restrooms but we can still social distance in the restrooms if need be.

But we do need to get the economy/country back up and try to get as many things back to normal. Things like dining in at a restaurant that should come back right now. But large gatherings shouldn't comeback yet. I think Gym's can re-open like LA fitness that I go to. It would be great to get LA fitness back and compete with people on the basketball court. I need to get back LA fitness, bodysurfing, dining in at restaurant, sporting events.

Bergamo Atalanta. You will understand, if you have brains.

[Catchall]

They overreact with people potentially catching the virus at an outdoor sporting event or any activity outdoors. The issue is indoor places where fresh air doesn't come in and the bad air can't escape. I can understand being at an indoor basketball or an indoor hockey game when your indoors. But Football, baseball, golf and tennis are played outdoors where fresh air is always available and any bad air goes up into the sky away from people possibly being infected. The only indoor area at an outdoor sporting event is the restrooms but we can still social distance in the restrooms if need be.

But we do need to get the economy/country back up and try to get as many things back to normal. Things like dining in at a restaurant that should come back right now. But large gatherings shouldn't comeback yet. I think Gym's can re-open like LA fitness that I go to. It would be great to get LA fitness back and compete with people on the basketball court. I need to get back LA fitness, bodysurfing, dining in at restaurant, sporting events.

u do understand that they refer to Italy's soccer game as the impetus that made their caseload explode, right? if u want to go hit the courts with 9 others then go do u, man. nothings stopping u.

Florida may end up leading the charge in re-opening things, so he may be in luck to have more to do.

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It depends on what the goal is.

If the goal is to "flatten the curve" to prevent local hospital resources from being overwhelmed, then this can be solved simply by increasing hospital resources in areas with high rates of infection. Hence, those who need hospitalization and intensive care can receive it without impediment.

If the goal is to prevent the majority of people from getting infected in the first place, then yes, you'd have to maintain measures for social distancing until there is an effective treatment. This could be a year or more away.

Originally, the goal was just to flatten the curve in order to prevent hospitals from being overrun with patients.

[NinjaBro]

Portable rapid Covid test kits approved and being sent out. Tests results in an hour with a 2nd version coming soon that will give results in a half hour. These test units are portable so you don't have to send the samples to a lab to get results.

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[bondom34]

They overreact with people potentially catching the virus at an outdoor sporting event or any activity outdoors. The issue is indoor places where fresh air doesn't come in and the bad air can't escape. I can understand being at an indoor basketball or an indoor hockey game when your indoors. But Football, baseball, golf and tennis are played outdoors where fresh air is always available and any bad air goes up into the sky away from people possibly being infected. The only indoor area at an outdoor sporting event is the restrooms but we can still social distance in the restrooms if need be.

But we do need to get the economy/country back up and try to get as many things back to normal. Things like dining in at a restaurant that should come back right now. But large gatherings shouldn't comeback yet. I think Gym's can re-open like LA fitness that I go to. It would be great to get LA fitness back and compete with people on the basketball court. I need to get back LA fitness, bodysurfing, dining in at restaurant, sporting events.

u do understand that they refer to Italy's soccer game as the impetus that made their caseload explode, right? if u want to go hit the courts with 9 others then go do u, man. nothings stopping u.

Florida may end up leading the charge in re-opening things, so he may be in luck to have more to do.

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I mean like....what

[Bottomsouth]

Why the strategy from our government is the same based on the wrong model information is fishy as hell. Or they desperately want economy to fail.

[13th Man]

I know this has likely been addressed before but it seems some are missing a bit of it so please, hopefully this is useful.

Here is a graph of "flattening" the curve in the simplest possible form.

Now keep in mind the bottom is time since first case. We see that when we "Flatten the Curve" we also extend the time that we have a growth in cases. Notice even in this graph there are more cases AFTER the peak when it is flattened. So for those saying "we have flattened the curve lets go back to work", they are missing how much longer it takes post peak for this to end. Or in another words, we're back half way there in places like NYC and a few weeks behind that in other areas that still haven't reached their peaks.

Yes, I lot of people don't really understand what flattening the curve really means, the goal is not to reduce the total number of people infected but to stretch it out over a longer period of time so that the health care system does not get overwhelmed.

The virus will continue to attack whichever hosts that it can find until either herd immunity is reached (where a certain percentage of people have been infected, therefore reducing likelihood of spreading any further) or until a vaccine is available.

So the President and Governers have a very tough decision ahead on when to open up businesses. There will still be a risk of an outbreak so that's why people will still need to practice social distancing measures.

It's a delicate situation that we are all in. Sacrifice people or sacrifice the economy? Both are important obviously, they need to find that fine line to minimize the damage to both.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be the one making that decision as I have no idea which would work out better. I don't envy any of the leaders right now it's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[Bottomsouth]

u do understand that they refer to Italy's soccer game as the impetus that made their caseload explode, right? if u want to go hit the courts with 9 others then go do u, man. nothings stopping u.

Florida may end up leading the charge in re-opening things, so he may be in luck to have more to do.

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I mean like....what

It’s an empty stadium, what’s the big deal.

[bondom34]

Florida may end up leading the charge in re-opening things, so he may be in luck to have more to do.

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I mean like....what

It’s an empty stadium, what’s the big deal.

It's not essential? And one of them already tested positive. In what world is WWE essential.

I'm even a fan but there's no real way to argue its an essential business.

[azcatz11]

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I mean like....what

It’s an empty stadium, what’s the big deal.

It's not essential? And one of them already tested positive. In what world is WWE essential.

I'm even a fan but there's no real way to argue its an essential business.

Giving people hope and an outlet is absolutely essential. What's the difference between this and a crowded grocery store?

[13th Man]

If the UFC wasn't essential in California then the WWE shouldn't be essential in Florida either. I understand that people are clamoring for some sense of normalcy but c'mon....

[13th Man]

It’s an empty stadium, what’s the big deal.

It's not essential? And one of them already tested positive. In what world is WWE essential.

I'm even a fan but there's no real way to argue its an essential business.

Giving people hope and an outlet is absolutely essential. What's the difference between this and a crowded grocery store?

I get your point but people are supposed to practice social distancing in grocery stores. Promoting physical contact sends a wrong message at this point imo.

[cpower]

Portable rapid Covid test kits approved and being sent out. Tests results in an hour with a 2nd version coming soon that will give results in a half hour. These test units are portable so you don't have to send the samples to a lab to get results.

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it does not matter if they are not going to test people . I mean for some reason Canada has been trying to flatten the curve by not testing people. it worked out wonderfully as the number almost goes up exactly the same every day

[bondom34]

It’s an empty stadium, what’s the big deal.

It's not essential? And one of them already tested positive. In what world is WWE essential.

I'm even a fan but there's no real way to argue its an essential business.

Giving people hope and an outlet is absolutely essential. What's the difference between this and a crowded grocery store?

I'll admit I watch it. I'll also admit it's 100% non-essential and there are some odd reasons it's approved.

Grocery stores are essential because you can't not eat. You can not watch WWE. They also encourage distancing, wrestling does not. WWE also has a confirmed positive.

[13th Man]

I don't really know how much longer this can be done. The rich and big business can wait this out, but the poor, middle class, and small businesses can't do this for much longer. I don't like the fact that the government can exert all of this power either, this is a very dangerous precedent we're setting. I think by May, we need to lift the restrictions and strongly advise the old and the compromised to self quarantine. We're playing a pretty deadly game with our economy, our way of life, and our civil liberties.

I hear you. I think that it is a must for the economy as well at some point but as long as people are educated and understand that the risk is still out there. How about making some of these N95 masks available to the public so that we could protect ourselves and others?

I'm afraid that as soon as things open up just a bit, a bunch of people will act like idiots and think that everything is back to normal now. I can just see it and it won't be pretty if **** breaks out.

[Bottomsouth]

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I mean like....what

It’s an empty stadium, what’s the big deal.

It's not essential? And one of them already tested positive. In what world is WWE essential.

I'm even a fan but there's no real way to argue its an essential business.

Restaurants are not essential and can still open.

What if the wrestlers quarantine after?

[Bottomsouth]

If the UFC wasn't essential in California then the WWE shouldn't be essential in Florida either. I understand that people are clamoring for some sense of normalcy but c'mon....

I could understand in the sense of essential and nonessential but just because another state makes a certain decision shouldn’t be the whole deciding factor for the other.

[13th Man]

Portable rapid Covid test kits approved and being sent out. Tests results in an hour with a 2nd version coming soon that will give results in a half hour. These test units are portable so you don't have to send the samples to a lab to get results.

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it does not matter if they are not going to test people . I mean for some reason Canada has been trying to flatten the curve by not testing people. it worked out wonderfully as the number almost goes up exactly the same every day

I live in Ontario, Canada. We are trying to test but it is slower than anticipated. The Governments here also seem to be more patient with having things shut down, I just hope that our economy can withstand this in the long run. Our PM Trudeau said that we won't be able to get back to full normalcy until there is a vaccine. In principal and theory, I'd have to agree with this but at the same time we can't be at a state of emergency until then either.

This is just my opinion but I see the U.S. being a bit over-eager to open things up while we seem to be a bit too laxed, the line is somewhere in between lol. I don't have any answers either, I just know that this Covid **** is real, it's a lot more potent than the flu imo. I also know that we cannot be in this state long-term, people will not only lose their jobs, their businesses but their mental and physical health as well.