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[thelead]

The tds people in here remind me a lot of Pepe’s views on Markelle. Regardless of what he does he will always be a denier.

This is the disconnect right here. While everyone else is watching the global pandemic, Trump and his supporters are watching the political epidemic. They even have a clinical name for it, Trump derangement syndrome. Historic behavior by a president, and we are the ones that are sick and feverish. "These aren't the droids you're looking for", lol. I've got to say, I've been pretty disappointed by the lack of a coherent argument from the right. This shouldn't be about left vs right, but I was really looking for something to agree with regardless. The fact that a decent defense can't be mounted is proof positive that this is about competence. Loyalty to the dear leader isn't partisan, its just creepy.

Snowflake, MAGA, TDS, etc.... marketing really works on certain people. Group think is very prevalent and dangerous.

[BballIsLife11]

The tds people in here remind me a lot of Pepe’s views on Markelle. Regardless of what he does he will always be a denier.

This is the disconnect right here. While everyone else is watching the global pandemic, Trump and his supporters are watching the political epidemic. They even have a clinical name for it, Trump derangement syndrome. Historic behavior by a president, and we are the ones that are sick and feverish. "These aren't the droids you're looking for", lol. I've got to say, I've been pretty disappointed by the lack of a coherent argument from the right. This shouldn't be about left vs right, but I was really looking for something to agree with regardless. The fact that a decent defense can't be mounted is proof positive that this is about competence. Loyalty to the dear leader isn't partisan, its just creepy.

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

[Gomagic44]

I felt ashamed with Bush Jrs gaffs but in hindsight he at least cared about people during a crisis. He may have been a bit airheaded but he had an ability to feel at least?!

They are going to show these pressers in government classes for the future of our country to see who we elected as our leader. It's sad. Kinda scary too. Trump has no ability to show empathy at all. He showed a propoganda video(campaign ad perhaps) during a national crisis and blames the press for our deaths?

He takes no responsibility but has absolute authority? Huh?

How anyone could be happy with this response is beyond me.

Yes I know he closed down the international flights...and then?

It's a shameful display. Our government is a joke.

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[spinedoc]

The tds people in here remind me a lot of Pepe’s views on Markelle. Regardless of what he does he will always be a denier.

This is the disconnect right here. While everyone else is watching the global pandemic, Trump and his supporters are watching the political epidemic. They even have a clinical name for it, Trump derangement syndrome. Historic behavior by a president, and we are the ones that are sick and feverish. "These aren't the droids you're looking for", lol. I've got to say, I've been pretty disappointed by the lack of a coherent argument from the right. This shouldn't be about left vs right, but I was really looking for something to agree with regardless. The fact that a decent defense can't be mounted is proof positive that this is about competence. Loyalty to the dear leader isn't partisan, its just creepy.

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

[tiderulz]

I felt ashamed with Bush Jrs gaffs but in hindsight he at least cared about people during a crisis. He may have been a bit airheaded but he had an ability to feel at least?!

They are going to show these pressers in government classes for the future of our country to see who we elected as our leader. It's sad. Kinda scary too. Trump has no ability to show empathy at all. He showed a propoganda video(campaign ad perhaps) during a national crisis and blames the press for our deaths?

He takes no responsibility but has absolute authority? Huh?

How anyone could be happy with this response is beyond me.

Yes I know he closed down the international flights...and then?

It's a shameful display. Our government is a joke.

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i see it all over the place, his devoted fans blame the media.

[BballIsLife11]

This is the disconnect right here. While everyone else is watching the global pandemic, Trump and his supporters are watching the political epidemic. They even have a clinical name for it, Trump derangement syndrome. Historic behavior by a president, and we are the ones that are sick and feverish. "These aren't the droids you're looking for", lol. I've got to say, I've been pretty disappointed by the lack of a coherent argument from the right. This shouldn't be about left vs right, but I was really looking for something to agree with regardless. The fact that a decent defense can't be mounted is proof positive that this is about competence. Loyalty to the dear leader isn't partisan, its just creepy.

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

[tiderulz]

The tds people in here remind me a lot of Pepe’s views on Markelle. Regardless of what he does he will always be a denier.

This is the disconnect right here. While everyone else is watching the global pandemic, Trump and his supporters are watching the political epidemic. They even have a clinical name for it, Trump derangement syndrome. Historic behavior by a president, and we are the ones that are sick and feverish. "These aren't the droids you're looking for", lol. I've got to say, I've been pretty disappointed by the lack of a coherent argument from the right. This shouldn't be about left vs right, but I was really looking for something to agree with regardless. The fact that a decent defense can't be mounted is proof positive that this is about competence. Loyalty to the dear leader isn't partisan, its just creepy.

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

how is testing? ours are so "wonderful", we are ordering 600k from Korea. if our tests are so great, why would we need to order from outside?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/04/13/trump-reportedly-ordered-600000-coronavirus-tests-from-south-korea-as-pressure-mounts-to-reopen-economy/#2b387415702e

how about defunding the group designed to research and prepare for pandemics? until they back tracked but the damage was done. how about ignoring multiple reports about how bad this was going to impact the US. yes, once he got off his rear end, things started to move, but he wants to be pat on the back for cancelling flights from China and then using that next month...to do nothing. How about issuing a national shelter in place recommendation. Then you wouldnt have multiple states refusing to put them in place (till 5 i think, mostly Rep Governors, and now South Dakota has blossomed into another virus hotspot and the gov still refuses to put out that order). How about using the defense act to get more PPE for our healthcare workers. Instead, all i have really seen is talks with GM about ventilators and they want HUGE money for it.

so no, this govt could be doing a lot better job. do i blame him for everything..no, its not all his fault. but now he is using press briefings as his campaign meetings since he cant go on the road and get all the applause for name calling, false information spewing.

[spinedoc]

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

Mmm okay, anyone else want to take a stab at it then?

[tiderulz]

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

i could be wrong, but didnt most data modeling take into account very little controls being done. Extreme social distancing brought those numbers drastically down

[BballIsLife11]

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

i could be wrong, but didnt most data modeling take into account very little controls being done. Extreme social distancing brought those numbers drastically down

I’m talking about the predictions in this thread. Because there were some looney numbers thrown own.

[thelead]

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

i could be wrong, but didnt most data modeling take into account very little controls being done. Extreme social distancing brought those numbers drastically down

I’m talking about the predictions in this thread. Because there were some looney numbers thrown own.

Yes, before lock downs happened. The president's own task force said that if mitigation worked, which it looks like it is, it would be said that we did too much and overreacted. Well, here we are...

[MagicFan101]

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

i could be wrong, but didnt most data modeling take into account very little controls being done. Extreme social distancing brought those numbers drastically down

This is called a Behavioral Model in Risk Analysis.

New factors come into play and the model updates. The very same models used to predict 100’s of thousands of deaths are the ones now projecting ~60k deaths given new data.

This isn’t a time to stop and celebrate this result. Just look at what is happening in Japan. If we celebrate and reopen early a second wave will occur and we will likely see numbers closer to the original projections people worked so hard to avoid.

[Tarheel]

Florida has declared sports essential workers which means it could stage games immediately - Fournier just tweeted that he thinks the season will resume sooner than later

[thelead]

Florida has declared sports essential workers which means it could stage games immediately - Fournier just tweeted that he thinks the season will resume sooner than later

Who do the magic and heat play if other states don't do the same?

[Tarheel]

Florida has declared sports essential workers which means it could stage games immediately - Fournier just tweeted that he thinks the season will resume sooner than later

Who do the magic and heat play if other states don't do the same?

I assume it would be a central venue tournament with all the teams playing in Florida - I guess it depends on whether other states follow suit

[thelead]

Florida has declared sports essential workers which means it could stage games immediately - Fournier just tweeted that he thinks the season will resume sooner than later

Who do the magic and heat play if other states don't do the same?

I assume it would be a central venue tournament with all the teams playing in Florida - I guess it depends on whether other states follow suit

The NBA isn't going to allow for state tournaments. Trump kind of painted himself into a corner by saying states need to decide what's best for them. Funny, it was to allow red states to continue to operate but now it's going to allow blue states to remain shut down. It'll be interesting to see how this all works out.

[BballIsLife11]

Florida has declared sports essential workers which means it could stage games immediately - Fournier just tweeted that he thinks the season will resume sooner than later

Who do the magic and heat play if other states don't do the same?

I assume it would be a central venue tournament with all the teams playing in Florida - I guess it depends on whether other states follow suit

Guessing this means teams in FL can resume practicing together which is a great first step. If that’s the case i wonder if the Magic and Heat would be allowed the additional practice time that teams in other states won’t have.

[thelead]

Who do the magic and heat play if other states don't do the same?

I assume it would be a central venue tournament with all the teams playing in Florida - I guess it depends on whether other states follow suit

Guessing this means teams in FL can resume practicing together which is a great first step. If that’s the case i wonder if the Magic and Heat would be allowed the additional practice time that teams in other states won’t have.

I'm guessing FL is more interested in allowing college football teams to practice. But again, if the schools are closed, how do the school admins allow practice? It's a tight rope to balance.

[darthcheech2000]

I am very happy with the federal governments response to this pandemic. No doubt they were A bit slow to react, like every other country basically. But once Italy got in a mess, we(the US) got our act together and has been great in my opinion.

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

Except the President and his white house stated those same numbers two weeks ago...

https://apnews.com/6ed70e9db88b80439a087fdad8238009

[BballIsLife11]

Yeah okay. As he accuses the governors of committing mutiny by the way. Also, puts a veiled threat to it as well, that the mutineers are too dependent on the captain. Like, they may not get what they need because they didn't follow the king? I'm begging for a conservative to properly explain this to me. Where are the states rights people where this is at the core of what a true conservative is? The president doesn't dictate to the states. They can show by example, use the bully pulpit, strike deals even, but they can not tell a governor what to do with regard to their own commerce. Trump does not have absolute authority. That is far from a great job. We are past Easter and still only testing .9% of the public. I too would like to go back to a higher functioning economy. Without testing, its not possible. That is not a good job. Doctors and nurses still having to re-use PPE, that is not a good job. And oh yeah, that delay at the beginning, during a fast spreading infectious disease, not important. Like I said, history will have a different take on this.

Ok Pepe.
Did you post any predictions on death numbers in the past couple weeks by any chance?? Would love to see how they compare to what the Dr’s expect to be 60k in August. I remember a lot of the same tds people in here talking about hundreds of thousands.

Except the President and his white house stated those same numbers two weeks ago...

https://apnews.com/6ed70e9db88b80439a087fdad8238009

He did that as a full under promise over deliver tactic. Can’t blame them for that tbh.
I am talking about the people in here with the moving goalposts. The ones that were predicting hundreds of thousands to a million+ deaths. And since that no longer seems to be the case, now harp on the beginnings, or his rhetoric.