Precious Achiuwa

[EvanZ]

how is he not a 4 in the nba? lol

i get everyone has the itch now to move everyone up a position but not the case every time. again, he's Jerami Grant, who plays the majority of his possessions at the 4.

How many 5s can you play him with? I mean maybe he's a 4 on some teams like Denver. But most teams now he's a 5 coming off the bench.

[clyde21]

how is he not a 4 in the nba? lol

i get everyone has the itch now to move everyone up a position but not the case every time. again, he's Jerami Grant, who plays the majority of his possessions at the 4.

How many 5s can you play him with? I mean maybe he's a 4 on some teams like Denver. But most teams now he's a 5 coming off the bench.

again, for like the 3rd time, you play him in the Jerami Grant role:

Grant position distribution the last 2 years:

86% at the 4
12% at the 3
1% at the 1

if you disagree, explain to me the difference between the roles that they are gonna play in the NBA and why Precious is a 5 not a 4 in comparison to Grant's skill set.

[clyde21]

and it'll be easier to list the 5s that he can't play next to honestly...guys like Drummond and Whiteside, but he can play next to most Centers too...and if he can't, it's probably an archaic C that shouldn't be starting anyways (like Whiteside).

[EvanZ]

how is he not a 4 in the nba? lol

i get everyone has the itch now to move everyone up a position but not the case every time. again, he's Jerami Grant, who plays the majority of his possessions at the 4.

How many 5s can you play him with? I mean maybe he's a 4 on some teams like Denver. But most teams now he's a 5 coming off the bench.

again, for like the 3rd time, you play him in the Jerami Grant role:

Grant position distribution the last 2 years:

86% at the 4
12% at the 3
1% at the 1

if you disagree, explain to me the difference between the roles that they are gonna play in the NBA and why Precious is a 5 not a 4 in comparison to Grant's skill set.

Hmmm...what team does Grant play for? Oh right, Denver.

[clyde21]

How many 5s can you play him with? I mean maybe he's a 4 on some teams like Denver. But most teams now he's a 5 coming off the bench.

again, for like the 3rd time, you play him in the Jerami Grant role:

Grant position distribution the last 2 years:

86% at the 4
12% at the 3
1% at the 1

if you disagree, explain to me the difference between the roles that they are gonna play in the NBA and why Precious is a 5 not a 4 in comparison to Grant's skill set.

Hmmm...what team does Grant play for? Oh right, Denver.

THAT'S WHY I SAID THE LAST 2 YEARS.

but here, take the distribution for his entire career if you'd prefer:

63% at the 4
31% at the 3
2% at the 2
1% at the 1

it actually looks worse for u, but ok.

[EvanZ]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

[clyde21]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

it's based on his closest actual analog in the league, actually, that's how this works, you find the closest comp and you see how they are currently being used in the NBA, and project from there.

Precious might play more 5 than Grant, but he's a 4 that CAN play 5 depending on the match up, not the other way around

[getrichordie]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

Achiuwa is not 2-3" taller than Grant... Grant is 6'8-6'9. Achiuwa is 6'9. It's well-documented.

[Klomp]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

Achiuwa is not 2-3" taller than Grant... Grant is 6'8-6'9. Achiuwa is 6'9. It's well-documented.

Not unless he grew after entering the league. At the 2014 NBA Draft Combine, Grant measured 6' 6.5'' barefoot and 6' 7.75'' in shoes.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/?SeasonYear=2014-15

[getrichordie]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

Achiuwa is not 2-3" taller than Grant... Grant is 6'8-6'9. Achiuwa is 6'9. It's well-documented.

Not unless he grew after entering the league. At the 2014 NBA Draft Combine, Grant measured 6' 6.5'' barefoot and 6' 7.75'' in shoes.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/?SeasonYear=2014-15

He must have grown then...

[EvanZ]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

it's based on his closest actual analog in the league, actually, that's how this works, you find the closest comp and you see how they are currently being used in the NBA, and project from there.

Precious might play more 5 than Grant, but he's a 4 that CAN play 5 depending on the match up, not the other way around

Not sure that Grant is the closest comp. I think Chriss is a fairly close comp...he is a 5. And Precious is significantly bigger than either of them.

Point remains the same regardless, Precious is going to be a 5 on virtually every team in the league. It's like you guys haven't watched the NBA in 5 years.

[clyde21]

Your argument is literally based on 1 guy man. And Precious is like 2-3" taller.

it's based on his closest actual analog in the league, actually, that's how this works, you find the closest comp and you see how they are currently being used in the NBA, and project from there.

Precious might play more 5 than Grant, but he's a 4 that CAN play 5 depending on the match up, not the other way around

Not sure that Grant is the closest comp. I think Chriss is a fairly close comp...he is a 5. And Precious is significantly bigger than either of them.

Point remains the same regardless, Precious is going to be a 5 on virtually every team in the league. It's like you guys haven't watched the NBA in 5 years.

wait wait wait

you're accusing me of not watching the NBA

yet here you are citing Chriss, who has played 63% of his snaps at the 4 in his career, as Achiuwa's comp in an attempt to tell me Precious is a center?

lol

[clyde21]

also, what makes chriss a more apt comp for Precious exactly? based on what? you think Chriss can guard swingmen and forwards like Precious and Grant?

[EvanZ]

yet here you are citing Chriss, who has played 63% of his snaps at the 4 in his career, as Achiuwa's comp in an attempt to tell me Precious is a center?

lol

I mean you're making my point for me bud. His best season by far in the NBA came this year playing the 5.

[clyde21]

yet here you are citing Chriss, who has played 63% of his snaps at the 4 in his career, as Achiuwa's comp in an attempt to tell me Precious is a center?

lol

I mean you're making my point for me bud. His best season by far in the NBA came this year playing the 5.

wow, a whopping 59 games on a 15 win team, we're all set.

you still didn't explain why Chriss is a better comp for Precious than Grant.

[EvanZ]

you still didn't explain why Chriss is a better comp for Precious than Grant.

For one thing if you go back and look at their college stats, Precious is much closer to Chriss than Grant. Athletically I think Precious and Chriss are probably a tier below Grant. Regardless, whether the comp is Grant or Chriss, all of them are basically small 5s to me. Chriss is actually the best passer and Precious is probably better than Grant in that respect too. You really couldn't have Grant playing the 4 with Steven Adams. And you couldn't have Precious doing that either.

Edit: Grant has been shooting the last two years so now it makes more sense he’s a 4 and even less sense to compare Precious to him.

[getrichordie]

you still didn't explain why Chriss is a better comp for Precious than Grant.

For one thing if you go back and look at their college stats, Precious is much closer to Chriss than Grant. Athletically I think Precious and Chriss are probably a tier below Grant. Regardless, whether the comp is Grant or Chriss, all of them are basically small 5s to me. Chriss is actually the best passer and Precious is probably better than Grant in that respect too. You really couldn't have Grant playing the 4 with Steven Adams. And you couldn't have Precious doing that either.

Edit: Grant has been shooting the last two years so now it makes more sense he’s a 4 and even less sense to compare Precious to him.

Actually, last year, Grant/Adams 2-man line up data shows otherwise. +7.1 NetRtg in 2115 minutes of shared court time. Grant played the 4 for us last year.

[EvanZ]

you still didn't explain why Chriss is a better comp for Precious than Grant.

For one thing if you go back and look at their college stats, Precious is much closer to Chriss than Grant. Athletically I think Precious and Chriss are probably a tier below Grant. Regardless, whether the comp is Grant or Chriss, all of them are basically small 5s to me. Chriss is actually the best passer and Precious is probably better than Grant in that respect too. You really couldn't have Grant playing the 4 with Steven Adams. And you couldn't have Precious doing that either.

Edit: Grant has been shooting the last two years so now it makes more sense he’s a 4 and even less sense to compare Precious to him.

Actually, last year, Grant/Adams 2-man line up data shows otherwise. +7.1 NetRtg in 2115 minutes of shared court time. Grant played the 4 for us last year.

Like I said, he finally started shooting. Makes more sense if he can shoot. If you want to bet that
Precious shoots on his rookie contract that is your prerogative.

[getrichordie]

For one thing if you go back and look at their college stats, Precious is much closer to Chriss than Grant. Athletically I think Precious and Chriss are probably a tier below Grant. Regardless, whether the comp is Grant or Chriss, all of them are basically small 5s to me. Chriss is actually the best passer and Precious is probably better than Grant in that respect too. You really couldn't have Grant playing the 4 with Steven Adams. And you couldn't have Precious doing that either.

Edit: Grant has been shooting the last two years so now it makes more sense he’s a 4 and even less sense to compare Precious to him.

Actually, last year, Grant/Adams 2-man line up data shows otherwise. +7.1 NetRtg in 2115 minutes of shared court time. Grant played the 4 for us last year.

Like I said, he finally started shooting. Makes more sense if he can shoot. If you want to bet that
Precious shoots on his rookie contract that is your prerogative.

I don’t think anyone is comparing Achiuwa to current Grant. I think everyone is thinking Sixers’ Grant.

[MemphisX]

Precious is nothing like Grant. Precious is a less skilled version of Bam. He will be a 5. If he gets drafted by a team hoping he can be a 4 with his lack of flexibility and upright play, he is going to fail miserably.