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Post#1501 » by dsg2003mach1 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:26 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.


Treasury department says there will be no delay, paper checks will start being mailed out next week as scheduled.
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Post#1502 » by tiderulz » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:27 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.

You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:

im not sure they are being delayed. I am sure it is being done to feed his ego
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Post#1503 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:29 pm

OrlandO wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.

You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Really? How dense do you have to be? You don't think that will delay them to retool the line? No comment on the narcissism that its the first time in history that a president had made such a request either? I've come to believe that Trump followers really don't stand for anything, just as long as it pisses off liberals. Nice way to run a country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/15/21222046/trump-name-stimulus-checks-delays
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Post#1504 » by dsg2003mach1 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:31 pm

spinedoc wrote:One additional point to that above, is I don't get a check. Small business owners don't get a check because we make too much money. We are relying on either the tax provisions for relief or that silly plan to take out a low interest loan to pay our employees that we may or may not be forgiven from, which doesn't benefit us. Why would I take out a loan to pay someone that is at home not working? I gave my employees some relief, but I can't afford to do that long term, that's why we pay unemployment insurance. Its just a gimmick because the administration doesn't want to see the unemployment rate go up any more, hardly any of us are taking advantage of that. So, small businesses like mine, get screwed once again.


I directly know more people than I have fingers and toes that are applying for PPP program. As far as "may or may not" it will be forgiven if spent as laid out. Even if not it's a whopping 1/2% interest, cheapest money a business will ever borrow. There are plenty of us out there that still have to work to do and closing down shop isn't an option.
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Post#1505 » by MagicFan101 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:33 pm

OrlandO wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.

You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Let’s say there is no delay whatsoever.

You don’t see a problem with investing even an ounce of effort to feed his ego with such a thing during this time of crisis?
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Post#1506 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:35 pm

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spinedoc wrote:One additional point to that above, is I don't get a check. Small business owners don't get a check because we make too much money. We are relying on either the tax provisions for relief or that silly plan to take out a low interest loan to pay our employees that we may or may not be forgiven from, which doesn't benefit us. Why would I take out a loan to pay someone that is at home not working? I gave my employees some relief, but I can't afford to do that long term, that's why we pay unemployment insurance. Its just a gimmick because the administration doesn't want to see the unemployment rate go up any more, hardly any of us are taking advantage of that. So, small businesses like mine, get screwed once again.


I directly know more people than I have fingers and toes that are applying for PPP program. As far as "may or may not" it will be forgiven if spent as laid out. Even if not it's a whopping 1/2% interest, cheapest money a business will ever borrow. There are plenty of us out there that still have to work to do and closing down shop isn't an option.


No one knows yet, not even the banks. This isn't a done deal, but my situation is different. I don't need the low interest loan, that's not what I have a problem with. I'm glad that it is going to be provided, I know plenty of people who are going to need it, I don't. I have enough in reserve, its the paying out of employees off of it that I'm not sure will be forgiven. There are loop holes and stipulations to it that no one has a handle on yet.
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Post#1507 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:41 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.

You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Let’s say there is no delay whatsoever.

You don’t see a problem with investing even an ounce of effort to feed his ego with such a thing during this time of crisis?


Its not just ego, there should not be politics involved with the treasury like that. Its why its never been done before. But this is Trump, we don't care about norms and precedent anymore. That's what I mean, its got to stop, and his minions have no sense of history whatsoever.
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Post#1508 » by Bensational » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:03 pm

Why should the checques have Trump's name on them? Wasn't Congress the ones who did all the work drafting it? Shouldn't it come from the US Congressional Department then?
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Post#1509 » by JF5 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:27 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.

You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Let’s say there is no delay whatsoever.

You don’t see a problem with investing even an ounce of effort to feed his ego with such a thing during this time of crisis?


With what he's been doing and saying for the last few days you can't say these acts don't resemble a dictator.

But all this is to piss off Democrats in the middle of a pandemic. Lmao, the lengths people will go to protect this man.
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Post#1510 » by tiderulz » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:32 pm

spinedoc wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Paper stimulus checks delayed so that Trump’s name can be printed on each and every one of them.

Yes, because THAT is the important thing here. Yup, he really gets it ...

I really am at a loss for words.

You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Really? How dense do you have to be? You don't think that will delay them to retool the line? No comment on the narcissism that its the first time in history that a president had made such a request either? I've come to believe that Trump followers really don't stand for anything, just as long as it pisses off liberals. Nice way to run a country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/15/21222046/trump-name-stimulus-checks-delays

"retool the line"? what is this, the 1950's? :D

you know im no Trump fan, but i dont see this delaying checks. its a coding change, wont take long at all. and yes, it is nacissism
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Post#1511 » by tiderulz » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:34 pm

spinedoc wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Let’s say there is no delay whatsoever.

You don’t see a problem with investing even an ounce of effort to feed his ego with such a thing during this time of crisis?


Its not just ego, there should not be politics involved with the treasury like that. Its why its never been done before. But this is Trump, we don't care about norms and precedent anymore. That's what I mean, its got to stop, and his minions have no sense of history whatsoever.

have you seen this guy and his issues? we lost independence with the Treasury a long time ago. and they dont care about history, they only care about now

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Post#1512 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:36 pm

JF5 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
OrlandO wrote:You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Let’s say there is no delay whatsoever.

You don’t see a problem with investing even an ounce of effort to feed his ego with such a thing during this time of crisis?


With what he's been doing and saying for the last few days you can't say these acts don't resemble a dictator.

But all this is to piss off Democrats in the middle of a pandemic. Lmao, the lengths people will go to protect this man.


Lol can you imagine if Obama claimed the president has total authority and printed stimulus checks with his name on it?
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Post#1513 » by orlando_joe » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:43 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
JF5 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Let’s say there is no delay whatsoever.

You don’t see a problem with investing even an ounce of effort to feed his ego with such a thing during this time of crisis?


With what he's been doing and saying for the last few days you can't say these acts don't resemble a dictator.

But all this is to piss off Democrats in the middle of a pandemic. Lmao, the lengths people will go to protect this man.


Lol can you imagine if Obama claimed the president has total authority and printed stimulus checks with his name on it?

dont tell me you dont think he would wake from a nap and do it if he would have thought of it...lol...him taking 2 questions every 6 months ..was classic ...he did not like work thats for sure..just bowing
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Post#1514 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:56 pm

tiderulz wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
OrlandO wrote:You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name?


Really? How dense do you have to be? You don't think that will delay them to retool the line? No comment on the narcissism that its the first time in history that a president had made such a request either? I've come to believe that Trump followers really don't stand for anything, just as long as it pisses off liberals. Nice way to run a country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/15/21222046/trump-name-stimulus-checks-delays

"retool the line"? what is this, the 1950's? :D

you know im no Trump fan, but i dont see this delaying checks. its a coding change, wont take long at all. and yes, it is nacissism

The Treasury Department on Monday finalized a decision to have Trump’s name appear in the memo line of the $1,200 stimulus checks each American will receive as part of the coronavirus relief bill passed by Congress last month, the Washington Post reported.

Engineers have to make a computer programming change and then test the system in order to insert Trump’s name on the checks, which will take time and likely cause a delay in the first batch of checks, two senior officials told the Washington Post.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/04/14/stimulus-checks-may-be-delayed-because-trump-wants-his-name-printed-on-them-report-says/amp/

Btw, this decision...ahem order was finalized a couple of days ago. It's been several weeks since the bill was signed....people needed more weeks ago and needless delays for ego and marketing...
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Post#1515 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:58 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
JF5 wrote:
With what he's been doing and saying for the last few days you can't say these acts don't resemble a dictator.

But all this is to piss off Democrats in the middle of a pandemic. Lmao, the lengths people will go to protect this man.


Lol can you imagine if Obama claimed the president has total authority and printed stimulus checks with his name on it?

dont tell me you dont think he would wake from a nap and do it if he would have thought of it...lol...him taking 2 questions every 6 months ..was classic ...he did not like work thats for sure..just bowing
You don't have better arguments? Or anything resembling an argument?
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Post#1516 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:06 pm

tiderulz wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
OrlandO wrote:You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Really? How dense do you have to be? You don't think that will delay them to retool the line? No comment on the narcissism that its the first time in history that a president had made such a request either? I've come to believe that Trump followers really don't stand for anything, just as long as it pisses off liberals. Nice way to run a country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/15/21222046/trump-name-stimulus-checks-delays

"retool the line"? what is this, the 1950's? :D

you know im no Trump fan, but i dont see this delaying checks. its a coding change, wont take long at all. and yes, it is nacissism


I'm not going to lie, I thought about the wisdom of that line after I wrote it, lol. I kept thinking about the VA, and instead of putting all those records on computer, they spent a bunch of money to reinforce the floors instead. :D
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Post#1517 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:12 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
Lol can you imagine if Obama claimed the president has total authority and printed stimulus checks with his name on it?

dont tell me you dont think he would wake from a nap and do it if he would have thought of it...lol...him taking 2 questions every 6 months ..was classic ...he did not like work thats for sure..just bowing
You don't have better arguments? Or anything resembling an argument?


I was hoping for better arguments as well. I don't mind partisanship, but damn give me a better partisan already. These guys have been so weak, surely there are better representatives following along in this thread. No hate, let me hear your best advocacy, I'm genuinely curious. No, seriously. :wink:
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Post#1518 » by Xatticus » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:27 pm

tiderulz wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
OrlandO wrote:You think checks will be delayed because of a printed name? :lol:


Really? How dense do you have to be? You don't think that will delay them to retool the line? No comment on the narcissism that its the first time in history that a president had made such a request either? I've come to believe that Trump followers really don't stand for anything, just as long as it pisses off liberals. Nice way to run a country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/15/21222046/trump-name-stimulus-checks-delays

"retool the line"? what is this, the 1950's? :D

you know im no Trump fan, but i dont see this delaying checks. its a coding change, wont take long at all. and yes, it is nacissism


It’s not narcissism. I’m skeptical that he is actually narcissistic. To the contrary, I think he is terribly insecure. I don’t think he believes the crap he shovels. I think he believes that a lot of people are dumb enough to believe his crap as long as he conveys authority.

He slaps his name on anything he can. He steals credit whenever he can. Why would he pass up the opportunity to do so in this case?
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Post#1519 » by spinedoc » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:42 pm

Xatticus wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
spinedoc wrote:
Really? How dense do you have to be? You don't think that will delay them to retool the line? No comment on the narcissism that its the first time in history that a president had made such a request either? I've come to believe that Trump followers really don't stand for anything, just as long as it pisses off liberals. Nice way to run a country.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/15/21222046/trump-name-stimulus-checks-delays

"retool the line"? what is this, the 1950's? :D

you know im no Trump fan, but i dont see this delaying checks. its a coding change, wont take long at all. and yes, it is nacissism


It’s not narcissism. I’m skeptical that he is actually narcissistic. To the contrary, I think he is terribly insecure. I don’t think he believes the crap he shovels. I think he believes that a lot of people are dumb enough to believe his crap as long as he conveys authority.

He slaps his name on anything he can. He steals credit whenever he can. Why would he pass up the opportunity to do so in this case?


Oh no?

Symptoms
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662
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Post#1520 » by Ducklett » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:18 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
Lol can you imagine if Obama claimed the president has total authority and printed stimulus checks with his name on it?

dont tell me you dont think he would wake from a nap and do it if he would have thought of it...lol...him taking 2 questions every 6 months ..was classic ...he did not like work thats for sure..just bowing
You don't have better arguments? Or anything resembling an argument?


There is about 3-4, if not more, of ad hom about Trump in this thread... lol. IE discussing if he is narcissistic or insecure...

That doesn't make this guy's "hot take" on Obama acceptable either, but the lack of self-awareness is a bit absurd.

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