Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

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Post#461 » by michaelm » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:09 pm

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Which is quite possible. Remember China isn't the only one doing it. Many countries are experimenting with it. Thing is these other countries have far more competent and secure labs. I don't think personally that China PURPOSELY did it. That would be one hell of a charge to decimate their own people. I think they were playing with dangerous **** without proper safety and patient zero walked out of that lab with it.

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Now you are just pulling out crap trying to "prove" your point.

And btw im since long time at the point where i dont care what "US officials" telling. They also told that the Iraq has WMDs. So they blew their credibility long time ago.

I start to maybe believe this China lab stuff when the sources comes from Switzerland, Norway...whatever country that has no political agenda here.

To the mods: i would like that the thread doesnt get killed with such agenda posts and the proves are twitter accounts with "multiple sauces with US officials". The last 1-2 pages are a trainwreck


I agree. People have been warned repeatedly to stop derailing these threads into that type of stuff and politics. Everyone, please get back on the topic intent for the GB Covid threads per the OP:

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Post#462 » by nymets1 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:58 pm

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HotRocks34 wrote:1. Someone asked when Trump was going to do guideline stuff on re-opening the USA. That's coming tonight at 6pm at the task force briefing (according to Trump tweet)

2. Ohio governor announces state will start to re-open from shutdown on May 1
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I'm in Western New York and our state has been shutdown since mid-March and it just been extended to May 15.

Based on what Governor Cuomo has been insinuating (since we are near or at the peak), I believe we will begin to "open" up again on May 15. And when I mean opening up, we'll probably start with a 25% "non-essential" workforce going into effect, and then 50% the following week, and so on.


"Opening up" for the state of New York means New York has to least enter Phase 1. Each US state has to pass phase 1,phase 2 and phase 3 to be back to fully normal pre-coronavirus. These US states don't enter one of the Phases or clear all phases until tomorrow(Friday). New York is the worst US state with the coronavirus so unfortunately New York and New Jersey are now allowed to enter Phase 1 Friday.
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Post#464 » by NBAFan93 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:54 am

NY 567 wrote:While I don't deny the legitimacy of this virus, what's being done as a response to it is going to be an issue in regards to our freedoms and way of life, and I'm not sure that's acceptable in the long term. Not to mention how many people who are economically suffering over this. I don't think it's alright to give government this kind of power and control over the whole country for a long period of time. It's not a very good precedent to set either. What, are we going to shut down for a year every time something dangerous comes out from here on in? Not an appropriate response. Lives matter, but their needs to be a balance. And I kind of almost want to vomit at the disingenuous nature of these politicians that keep saying that every life is precious and **** like that. People die every day because they couldn't afford treatments, people don't have insurance, we have people on the streets, all kinds of stuff and they don't care about that. But now they care about people? Yeah, I don't trust that.


Yeah. Interesting how life isn’t so precious when it’s people dying of gun violence, from crime in low income neighborhoods, cancer from smoking cigarettes, homelessness, drug overdoses, being overweight, etc.

If they’d invest 3 trillion dollars and take away everyone’s freedoms for the sake of the greater good I’m sure they could fix a lot of those things too but they won’t. Let me guess - cigarette manufacturing is “essential”?

They are all full of contradictions.
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Post#465 » by TunaFish » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:36 am

Two months ago there was a single Covid 19 death in the U.S. One month ago there was less than 100 deaths. Today, we have 33, 284 deaths. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Post#466 » by Papi_swav » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:50 am

One of my co workers passed away last Saturday . He worked at my job for 31 years and put in his retirement papers a couple months ago before this virus hit. He was set to retire in just 30 days. This breaks my heart. Half of my job is out sick due to this virus. I thought I had it 2 weeks ago, I had a fever for 2 days and I felt a little winded but felt alot better in 3 days. Took 2 weeks off of work just to be sure and cautious. This thing is taking alot of ppl in NYC. Several ppl I know lost loved ones. I cannot believe what is going on.
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Post#467 » by Kabookalu » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:54 am

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NY 567 wrote:While I don't deny the legitimacy of this virus, what's being done as a response to it is going to be an issue in regards to our freedoms and way of life, and I'm not sure that's acceptable in the long term. Not to mention how many people who are economically suffering over this. I don't think it's alright to give government this kind of power and control over the whole country for a long period of time. It's not a very good precedent to set either. What, are we going to shut down for a year every time something dangerous comes out from here on in? Not an appropriate response. Lives matter, but their needs to be a balance. And I kind of almost want to vomit at the disingenuous nature of these politicians that keep saying that every life is precious and **** like that. People die every day because they couldn't afford treatments, people don't have insurance, we have people on the streets, all kinds of stuff and they don't care about that. But now they care about people? Yeah, I don't trust that.


Yeah. Interesting how life isn’t so precious when it’s people dying of gun violence, from crime in low income neighborhoods, cancer from smoking cigarettes, homelessness, drug overdoses, being overweight, etc.

If they’d invest 3 trillion dollars and take away everyone’s freedoms for the sake of the greater good I’m sure they could fix a lot of those things too but they won’t. Let me guess - cigarette manufacturing is “essential”?

They are all full of contradictions.


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Post#468 » by zimpy27 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:56 am

Papi_swav wrote:One of my co workers passed away last Saturday . He worked at my job for 31 years and put in his retirement papers a couple months ago before this virus hit. He was set to retire in just 30 days. This breaks my heart. Half of my job is out sick due to this virus. I thought I had it 2 weeks ago, I had a fever for 2 days and I felt a little winded but felt alot better in 3 days. Took 2 weeks off of work just to be sure and cautious. This thing is taking alot of ppl in NYC. Several ppl I know lost loved ones. I cannot believe what is going on.


This is why it's so important to at least try find a job you enjoy doing enough that you could die anytime and not be regretful.

Things in life stop that from happening but while you have freedom you should do all you can to find that job.
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Post#469 » by Papi_swav » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:03 am

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Papi_swav wrote:One of my co workers passed away last Saturday . He worked at my job for 31 years and put in his retirement papers a couple months ago before this virus hit. He was set to retire in just 30 days. This breaks my heart. Half of my job is out sick due to this virus. I thought I had it 2 weeks ago, I had a fever for 2 days and I felt a little winded but felt alot better in 3 days. Took 2 weeks off of work just to be sure and cautious. This thing is taking alot of ppl in NYC. Several ppl I know lost loved ones. I cannot believe what is going on.


This is why it's so important to at least try find a job you enjoy doing enough that you could die anytime and not be regretful.

Things in life stop that from happening but while you have freedom you should do all you can to find that job.

You right. My job is actually a very good job and actually a career. He could of retired 11 years ago with good pension but for whatever reason he decided to keep going. It just sucks how this all went down. He literally put in his retirement papers right before this outbreak even hit China and this unexpected virus took him before he can enjoy his retirement. I am still young and fairly new to this job but the main goal is for me to own something .
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Post#470 » by bondom34 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:18 am

Papi_swav wrote:One of my co workers passed away last Saturday . He worked at my job for 31 years and put in his retirement papers a couple months ago before this virus hit. He was set to retire in just 30 days. This breaks my heart. Half of my job is out sick due to this virus. I thought I had it 2 weeks ago, I had a fever for 2 days and I felt a little winded but felt alot better in 3 days. Took 2 weeks off of work just to be sure and cautious. This thing is taking alot of ppl in NYC. Several ppl I know lost loved ones. I cannot believe what is going on.

Man, this sucks and hurts to hear. Stay safe, and sorry for your loss of a coworker. Wish I had something really profound to say, but at this point I don't. Everyone stay safe out there.
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Post#471 » by HotRocks34 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:35 am

Some hopeful news.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/

A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead’s clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.


Boy, I hope this or something else works. It would go a long way towards making things bearable before a vaccine is finished.

The website cited here, Stat, is a noted biotech/pharma/life sciences site. It would make sense that they would get a heads-up on what is happening with the clinical trial. Stat is associated with the owner of the Boston Globe.

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Post#472 » by michaelm » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:14 am

HotRocks34 wrote:Some hopeful news.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/

A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead’s clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.


Boy, I hope this or something else works. It would go a long way towards making things bearable before a vaccine is finished.

The website cited here, Stat, is a noted biotech/pharma/life sciences site. It would make sense that they would get a heads-up on what is happening with the clinical trial. Stat is associated with the owner of the Boston Globe.

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I think Gilead are the ones who found/produced the drug which eliminates/cures Hepatits C so they do have a track record of success.
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Post#473 » by speedfiend » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:17 am

HotRocks34 wrote:Some hopeful news.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/

A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead’s clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.


Boy, I hope this or something else works. It would go a long way towards making things bearable before a vaccine is finished.

The website cited here, Stat, is a noted biotech/pharma/life sciences site. It would make sense that they would get a heads-up on what is happening with the clinical trial. Stat is associated with the owner of the Boston Globe.

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It really depends on how much Gilead decides to charge for Remdesivir in the US. We know Gilead granted several countries with UHS the rights to develop generic versions of Remdesivir in exchange for early access to clinical trials, but in the US, Gilead has an absolute lock on Remdesivir's patent.
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Post#474 » by HotRocks34 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:21 am

speedfiend wrote:It really depends on how much Gilead decides to charge for Remdesivir in the US. We know Gilead granted several countries with UHS the rights to develop generic versions of Remdesivir in exchange for early access to clinical trials, but in the US, Gilead has an absolute lock on Remdesivir's patent.


If they try to price gouge on a drug that works (if it works, we'll see) for Covid, they will get destroyed in public opinion.

My guess is something will be worked out quickly on price, with the government. If the drug works, of course.
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Post#475 » by Swish1906 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:01 am

HotRocks34 wrote:
speedfiend wrote:It really depends on how much Gilead decides to charge for Remdesivir in the US. We know Gilead granted several countries with UHS the rights to develop generic versions of Remdesivir in exchange for early access to clinical trials, but in the US, Gilead has an absolute lock on Remdesivir's patent.


If they try to price gouge on a drug that works (if it works, we'll see) for Covid, they will get destroyed in public opinion.

My guess is something will be worked out quickly on price, with the government. If the drug works, of course.


How many people died in the USA because of the raise of Insulin prices? And yet nothing changed
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Post#476 » by Bottomsouth » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:41 pm

TunaFish wrote:Two months ago there was a single Covid 19 death in the U.S. One month ago there was less than 100 deaths. Today, we have 33, 284 deaths. Let that sink in for a moment.


Today we have tests.
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Post#477 » by TunaFish » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:54 pm

Bottomsouth wrote:
TunaFish wrote:Two months ago there was a single Covid 19 death in the U.S. One month ago there was less than 100 deaths. Today, we have 33, 284 deaths. Let that sink in for a moment.


Today we have tests.


They have a test for death?
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Post#478 » by ellobo » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:15 pm

TunaFish wrote:
Bottomsouth wrote:
TunaFish wrote:Two months ago there was a single Covid 19 death in the U.S. One month ago there was less than 100 deaths. Today, we have 33, 284 deaths. Let that sink in for a moment.


Today we have tests.


They have a test for death?

Yes, but it isn't new.

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Post#479 » by Bottomsouth » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:27 pm

TunaFish wrote:
Bottomsouth wrote:
TunaFish wrote:Two months ago there was a single Covid 19 death in the U.S. One month ago there was less than 100 deaths. Today, we have 33, 284 deaths. Let that sink in for a moment.


Today we have tests.


They have a test for death?


To be confirmed from the virus, yes.
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Post#480 » by TunaFish » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:03 pm

Bottomsouth wrote:
TunaFish wrote:
Bottomsouth wrote:
Today we have tests.


They have a test for death?


To confirmed from the virus, yes.


So you are saying that we didn't have a test for Covid-19 two months ago? And if a person dies with all the symptoms but hasn't had the test they shouldn't be counted?
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