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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#541 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:29 am

Wisky4life wrote:Would you guys trade our #30 to Indy if they offered #34 and #44?

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In a heartbeat. Can only see them doing that if Love is there.
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Post#542 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:32 am

MoMM wrote:How the QB class looks like for next 2021 Draft? Is it good?


It's gonna have Lawrence and Fields go #1 and #2 in some order and those guys are as good a QB prospect as there is. Outside of those two there's a kid for Georgia who looks good but I'm not sure about anyone else.

Next year will be a really great year to be truly awful.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#543 » by Frank Nova » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:26 pm

Wisky4life wrote:Would you guys trade our #30 to Indy if they offered #34 and #44?

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I’d consider moving back to 34 for less than pick 44 so yeah sign me up. I’d move from 30 to 34 for an extra 3rd
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#544 » by Treebeard » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:48 pm

Wisky4life wrote:Would you guys trade our #30 to Indy if they offered #34 and #44?

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#545 » by Profound23 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:37 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Wisky4life wrote:Would you guys trade our #30 to Indy if they offered #34 and #44?

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In a heartbeat. Can only see them doing that if Love is there.


Yeah, it depends who is there.
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Post#546 » by Wisky4life » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:38 pm

So we can have great ideas for who we want at #30. I know the guys we want will be mostly gone by then. Do you think Gute takes BPA? I'm trying to get all the pieces to the puzzle before we get into the draft.

I have had my hopes up before in the last like 10 drafts of who I would take and we hardly ever do. Taking Gary last year killed it for me and I really didn't like the pick. Honestly I would have taken Brian Burns there, but I really wanted us to trade up for Josh Allen.



This year I'd love to trade up for Kenneth Murray but would settle for Queen if he falls there. If neither option is there, I would trade down. Even though there are 20 WR's to pick from. I would rather have AJ Green or Odell over them. Drafting a WR in the 2nd round.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#547 » by M-C-G » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:46 pm

Ummmmmm...I think he overloaded his weight for the combine and it had some impact on his speed. I think I said earlier in here, he looks like a 4.3 guy when you watch his play. I have to think, if this is legit, he is right up there with Jefferson as the number 4 WR in this draft. I try not to believe pro days too much but a 4.3 40 and a sub 4 short shuttle seem a lot more in line with the way the dude plays.

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After weighing in at 197.6 pounds—down from 206 pounds at the combine—Reagor had a few coaches run him through drills.

Miller McCalmon, a former assistant pro scouting director for the Detroit Lions and Houston Texans, clocked the wideout's 40-yard dash at 4.28 seconds, while private trainer Danny Arnold's stopwatch read 4.22 seconds.

Reagor ran a 4.47-second 40-yard dash in Indianapolis. His pro-day attempt would've ranked as the fastest time at the combine, beating Henry Ruggs III's mark of 4.27 seconds.

In the short shuttle, McCalmon recorded Reagor at 3.97 seconds, while Arnold's clock read 4.04 seconds. At the combine, Reagor ran the drill in 4.46 seconds.



From profootball rumors, looks like Eagles are honed in at WR

In addition to being in the mix for LSU playmaker Justin Jefferson, the Eagles are interested in Arizona State’s Brandon Aiyuk, Adam Caplan of InsidetheBirds.com notes. They join a list of teams who are not concerned about the core muscle surgery Aiyuk underwent earlier this month. Aiyuk is expected to be ready to go by June, per Caplan.

Philly has also done “a lot of work” on TCU’s Jalen Reagor, Caplan adds. Despite recently posting multiple sub-4.3-second 40-yard dash clockings, Reagor figures to be available by the time the Eagles’ No. 21 pick arrives. Jefferson, however, may not be.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#548 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:55 pm

Question as much as the packers need speed at wr dont we put to much into the timed runs what i mean is that fast doesnt necessarily mean good havnt we had some fast receivers before who were nothing more than runnibg straight down the field like janus davis etc.Shouldnt we be looking at a guy whose more route assignment sure(jefferson or ?)than just a guy who runs a 4.3 40 am i wrong on this.
I mean is a sure handed player like higgins or pittman that bad cause they both run a 4.5 40 yet they catch everything thrown their way.Are we as fans making way to much out of speed and bring in a guy who can actually be where hes supposed to be on the field
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#549 » by Treebeard » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:55 pm

Even if there's a run on WR's, the proverbial BPA at #30 may be another WR. Pick a guy with some football speed, can run a route, catch a ball, and elude a tackle or two. (yeah, yeah, I know, I'm not asking for much there..... ) How tall he is and his straightline speed in the 400m dash is secondary.

With the LB's (and the Pack needs to acquire another one someway), it seems to be Simmons on the top tier, then Queen and Murray on a second tier, maybe Baun, but then there's a step down from those guys, still some solid players, but more like 3rd or 4th rounders?

Unsexy as it is, another strength in this draft are Offensive Tackles, though several mocks have a big run on them anywhere from #5 to #25. If the Pack is dependent on Rogers health for the next couple of years anyway, it wouldn't hurt to lay on some better talent.

Another RB in the 3rd or 4th wouldn't break my heart either. If Jones goes out for any length of time, they're in trouble. Williams and Ervin are at best, useful complementary pieces.

I can't help but think Gute's talking QB is more about bait to stir up trade talks than reality for #30. However, I do find the interest in Jalen Hurts may be real... Round 2 or 3? I would surprise me a little if that happens.

They have several needs this year (expecting a lot from the draft pool for a playoff team), so the options are genuinely all over the place
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Post#550 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:08 pm

Think packers should kick the tires on that TE just cut from the bears was pretty good in philly
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#551 » by M-C-G » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:16 pm

Daver wrote:Question as much as the packers need speed at wr dont we put to much into the timed runs what i mean is that fast doesnt necessarily mean good havnt we had some fast receivers before who were nothing more than runnibg straight down the field like janus davis etc.Shouldnt we be looking at a guy whose more route assignment sure(jefferson or ?)than just a guy who runs a 4.3 40 am i wrong on this.
I mean is a sure handed player like higgins or pittman that bad cause they both run a 4.5 40 yet they catch everything thrown their way.Are we as fans making way to much out of speed and bring in a guy who can actually be where hes supposed to be on the field


So with Jefferson and Reagor, I think you are getting really complete WRs. And with Aiyuk I think you are getting the best run after the catch guy. Any of the three, I think I am going to be ecstatic.

Jefferson - most Rodgers ready WR, with good wheels, probably worst YAC of the three (talking about their raw stuff with the ball)
Reagor - second most Rodgers ready WR, great wheels, good YAC
Aiyuk - third most Rodgers ready WR, good wheels, great YAC

The only knock on any of these guys might be they are 6'3 like Mims, who I would also really like, but I think he would be the least Rodgers ready guy, despite his catching radius on the boundary.

I think we are splitting hairs, this is a stellar group and I think we will be happy with any of them frankly. I just think this roster could really use some more running after the catch guys, we simply don't have anyone other Aaron Jones that can do that. My big thing with Reagor, he looked like an elite speed guy and it didn't match his testing, so this was just some additional confirmation for me. Even PFF write up on Reagor said the testing didn't match the eye test, so I just like this confirmation.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#552 » by M-C-G » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:18 pm

Daver wrote:Think packers should kick the tires on that TE just cut from the bears was pretty good in philly


I might be on an island, but I really like our in house guys. I think that cheap shot in practice that concussed Jace really set him back. I'd like to see him be featured more, and I really think Tonyan looks great every time he gets snaps.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#553 » by M-C-G » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:19 pm

There are a lot of guys in this WR class that if things shook out differently, they would be top 1 or 2 guys at their position in your typical draft class. Same might go for ILB.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#554 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:10 pm

I know im in the minority but man the vibe from different sites is that the packers really love higgins i know hes not as fast just him dimensions alone make me think if hes there at 30 hes their guy i think the packers feel hes the perfect #2 opposite adams
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Post#555 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:12 pm

Bleacher report had a mock n higgins had like 80% of the vote very surprising
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#556 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:26 pm

I think we probably need to temper expectations with all rookies contributing this year. With likely way less practice time than usual I wouldn't pencil anyone in as a starter.

I don't think that should change the approach because all those needs are long-term anyway.

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#557 » by Treebeard » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:34 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think we probably need to temper expectations with all rookies contributing this year. With likely way less practice time than usual I wouldn't pencil anyone in as a starter.

I don't think that should change the approach because all those needs are long-term anyway.

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That is a good point, even if we need production from them. Almost all rookies are going to have slower development as a result of the reduced practice time
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#558 » by M-C-G » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:37 pm

Daver wrote:Bleacher report had a mock n higgins had like 80% of the vote very surprising


CBS has seven different contributors do mocks, right now;
Ryan Wilson - Brandon Aiyuk
Chris Trapasso - Jalen Reagor
Pete Prisco - Brandon Aiyuk
Will Brinson - Brandon Aiyuk
Josh Edwards - Ross Blacklock
RJ White - Denzel Mims
Tom Fornelli - Jalen Reagor

All but two have Justin Jefferson going to the Eagles at 21. The two that didn't, had him going 15 and going 21 but to the Vikings in a trade.
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Post#559 » by Mags FTW » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:37 pm

Locked On Network had us taking Grant Delpit. Justification was with how much Dime we play, we need to reduce the amount of time Tramon or Jackson are on the field. And if you're playing Dime with versatile DBs, you worry less about the LB situations.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#560 » by Matches Malone » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:47 pm

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Daver wrote:Think packers should kick the tires on that TE just cut from the bears was pretty good in philly


I might be on an island, but I really like our in house guys. I think that cheap shot in practice that concussed Jace really set him back. I'd like to see him be featured more, and I really think Tonyan looks great every time he gets snaps.


I'm with you. I like the trio of Tonyan/Jace/Lewis. Maybe they can add another guy in the draft like a Moss, Bryant or Okwuegbunam in the later rounds to compete with Bayless for the 4th TE spot.
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