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2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#361 » by Negrodamus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:08 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I like quite a few of the Gs in the SEC.

Starters:
- Dru Smith
- Skyler Mays
- Ashton Hagans

Bench Scorers or offensive-leaning starters:
- Tyrese Maxey
- Kira Lewis
- Samir Doughty

I would love to get some combination of these guys with 1st round, 2nd round, UDFA signings.

And then obviously there's the swing G/F types like Aaron Nesmith, Mason Jones, Isaac Okoro, etc that would be good additions/fits, too.


Interesting you rate Hagans higher than Maxey. He was pretty atrocious around the rim and beyond the arc for most the year. Also wasn't a huge fan of his body type as far as prospects go.

Has Dru declared yet?
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Post#362 » by Negrodamus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:23 pm

A second rounder/UDFA I'd also be interested in is Nick Richards. Dude was a non-shooter when he got to UK and was +40% from mid range and a 75% FT shooter. He's also a fluid athlete and long at 6'11. I'm getting Jarrett Allen vibes from him.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#363 » by Kobblehead » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:47 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Interesting you rate Hagans higher than Maxey. He was pretty atrocious around the rim and beyond the arc for most the year. Also wasn't a huge fan of his body type as far as prospects go.

Has Dru declared yet?


I think Maxey is more talented, but Hagans is more well-rounded and more coach-friendly, and thus, likely will get more opportunities early on. I could see Maxey being slightly undesirable among coaching circles ala Austin Rivers / Jordan Clarkson. I like him, though.

I don't think Dru declared yet but I haven't been tracking anything regarding the draft entrees. I'm guessing there will be a flood of entries this year once the world stabilizes.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#364 » by Negrodamus » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:36 pm

I'm feeling pretty confident in saying that if we don't leave this draft with one of Saben Lee or Myles Powell, we'll probably make a mistake. Both are pretty different players except for one thing: they both can go off on offense. Saben Lee has more upside as an all around player who can play strong defense, but Powell has the potential to be a 20+ ppg scorer.

And to piggyback off another thread, his skillset would add 2-5 ppg to Embiid's scoring if Redick was able to do what Powell can: finish at the rim, draw fouls, make slip pass to the big man, AND hit the difficult shots. His fit on this team is actually probably the best of any player in this draft. Satisfies Ben's desire to be the PG, but gives an absolute assassin the ability to blow up defenses when teamed up with the best big man in the game. The front office should at least entertain him on this team. It would be pretty sad not to.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#365 » by Kobblehead » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:07 pm

I see that Malachi Flynn entered the draft.

Another dynamic tiny guy that can score. He appears to have some moxie and competitiveness that could set him apart from some guys like him. Is definitely a bomber with a strong shooting profile.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#366 » by Kobblehead » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:49 pm

C.J. Elleby has officially entered the draft.

I like him a lot as a potential Klay Thompson / Jayson Tatum type 3&D player with some creating ability.
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Post#367 » by Negrodamus » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:47 pm

I'm not a huge fan for a variety of reasons, but it is hard to ignore that Saddiq Bey has a perennial All-Star SF body with impressive scoring tools. Shooting profile is excellent and has shown some athleticism and ball handling. He's someone I could see being a surprise out of this draft.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#368 » by Kobblehead » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:00 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I'm not a huge fan for a variety of reasons, but it is hard to ignore that Saddiq Bey has a perennial All-Star SF body with impressive scoring tools. Shooting profile is excellent and has shown some athleticism and ball handling. He's someone I could see being a surprise out of this draft.

I see a lot of Dillons Brooks in him, based on his game and body.

I'll be interested to see where he goes in the draft. NBA front offices seem to hold highschool status in high regard and Bey was a no-name 3 star kid when he got to Nova.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#369 » by No-Man » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:11 am

Elleby is more Brooks than Bey, and I am not a fan of CJ, talking about style (he is def nothing like Klay/Tatum)
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Post#370 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:06 pm

How could someone not like Elleby?

He's a 6'5"-6'6" 200 pound wing with fantastic team defense, decent creating ability, and marked improvement in his shooting profile through his two years in school.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#371 » by Negrodamus » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:29 pm

I am getting pretty solidified in the prospects I want the Sixers target, but I'd be happy with us getting Kira Lewis for no other reason than him being only 19 years old and producing at the level he has these past two years. He's a fine height and length for a PG, but I do think there's an outside chance he could continue to grow a little more which would completely change his outlook as a prospect. Where we're selecting, I'd be fine swinging for the fences.
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Post#372 » by Negrodamus » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:31 pm

@Kobble

How do you think someone like Trent Forrest projects as a role player? I rarely see him on draft boards, but I feel like he has more potential than someone like Matisse despite not breaking records in steals.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#373 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:00 pm

Negrodamus wrote:@Kobble

How do you think someone like Trent Forrest projects as a role player? I rarely see him on draft boards, but I feel like he has more potential than someone like Matisse despite not breaking records in steals.

I think he projects really strongly. I'm just wondering why he didn't do more at Florida State. The game seems so easy to him.

Regardless of his baffling lack of production, he still seems like a highly covetable G.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#374 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I am getting pretty solidified in the prospects I want the Sixers target, but I'd be happy with us getting Kira Lewis for no other reason than him being only 19 years old and producing at the level he has these past two years. He's a fine height and length for a PG, but I do think there's an outside chance he could continue to grow a little more which would completely change his outlook as a prospect. Where we're selecting, I'd be fine swinging for the fences.

Yeah, I'd be fine with Lewis, as well. Seems like a worse defensive but better shooting version of De'Aaron Fox.

If his shooting translates and he maxes out his confidence, I could see him being unguardable at the next level.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#375 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:16 pm

I'm starting to warm up to Tre Jones in that range, as well.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#376 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:00 pm

Jomaru Brown is kinda fascinating. Has entered the draft.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jomaru-brown-1.html

Career 3.6% steal percentage and possesses insane handle. Not the strongest shooter or finisher, though.



Definitely flawed, but the handle and defense make him a fascinating prospect to monitor.
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Post#377 » by Negrodamus » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:35 pm



Isiaha Mike is a guy I am always intrigued with, but constantly forget him. He's 6'8 with some explosive athleticism and a nice looking shot. 2.8 STL%. 37% from three on six 3fga per game. Quite good around the rim. 80% FT shooter. Is a 3&D guy a la Covington. I'd love to give him a shot in Delaware.

If we can get Isiaha Mike, Saben Lee, and Myles Powell on Delaware for part of the year, I'm watching every game. That would be incredibly fun.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#378 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:42 pm

Yeah, Mike is an interesting defensive prospect. I think he can guard down to SG and up to PF. If his jumper translates in the mid-30s, he could be a solid piece.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#379 » by Kobblehead » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:58 pm

Darius Quisenberry has a lot going for him.

Good defense, good passing, excellent handle, decent free throw shooting.

But man, wtf is up with that shot?

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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#380 » by Kobblehead » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:07 pm

Do we think this is the year we'll finally go after a creator or are we going to continue to target supporting players?

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