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Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74]

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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1761 » by blanko » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:56 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:That’s interesting. I wonder how the careers of NBA players with a similar path in high-school went. How their development curve looked like. It could provide some insight as to how we can expect Knox to evolve.
Hakeem was like that iirc, alot of foreign players outgrew other sports so they changed to bball.

However, i believe that the european system is better at teaching the game than the current us system. Only because in europe the developmental divisions of pro teams are judged on development and not wins and losses. Granted, winning is a part of development but development is the focus. Thats not the same for aau, highschool, and college... in my humble opinion.

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Hakeem is a different case, he was an elite soccer player and we should all know soccer helps out dramatically in bball bc of necessary footwork.

Knox is a bust, regardless of age
Indont know about him being an elite soccer player, he did play soccer thoough. Knocks afaik was a up and comming prospect in football.

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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1762 » by HerSports85 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:49 pm

I’m not ready to give up on Knox. I hope Leon does what should’ve been done this season and send him to the G league so he can learn the basics and get plenty of playing time.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1763 » by J9Starks3 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:29 pm

Remember rookie year SL Knox? Good lord I thought we hit the jackpot....then real NBA players came into the picture...
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1764 » by ctorres » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:06 pm

The LEAST the Knicks could do is develop Knox into a Tim Thomas-like player.

6'10 tweener
10 to 14 points per game
3 to 5 rebounds a game
Above 40% from three, or at least shoot well enough to be a consistent threat

He doesn't have to be a star, but if he cannot even develop into a complimentary piece, then wtf man
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1765 » by SWYM » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:37 pm

HerSports85 wrote:I’m not ready to give up on Knox. I hope Leon does what should’ve been done this season and send him to the G league so he can learn the basics and get plenty of playing time.

Look at his college tape, wasn't the best player on his own team. Mediocre athleticism, stretches of passivity and couldn't guard a 12 year old with his length. Don't understand what the 3 Stooges saw during the epic workout. Just a testament that they're all way in over their heads, 2 are done and will never be in league again, Perry is next.

You can't develop above the shoulders and athleticism. He's a weak minded aspiring video gamer w cement blocks as feet.

He'll crush overseas
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1766 » by Jeffrey » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:29 pm

Leon Rose: I can't get in touch with Knox, where has he been during this pandemic?
Knicks trainer: You can't call or text him?
Leon Rose: Nope, where the hell has he been?!
Knicks trainer: Yeahhhhhh... you're gonna have to log into a game called Fortnite and team chat him through there.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1767 » by F N 11 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:55 pm

Its dumb to give up on knox. We dont even run which is his, RJ, and Mitch;s specialty. Cant give up on these kids when we had Fizdale as coach and playing vets big minutes over them.

For once please play kids and watch them grow. I have watched a bunch of games when the kids play together its fun basketball bc they came up with each other and like each other. Only vets we should be signing should be okay with taking a back seat to kids.
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Post#1768 » by F N 11 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:50 pm

Keep in mind Calapari is Rose’s boy. If anything expect a Knox resurgence.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1769 » by SWYM » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:05 pm

F N 11 wrote:Keep in mind Calapari is Rose’s boy. If anything expect a Knox resurgence.

Expect a resurgence in Knox's Fortnite ranking?!
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1770 » by G_K_F » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:13 am

F N 11 wrote:Keep in mind Calapari is Rose’s boy. If anything expect a Knox resurgence.


A Knox resurgence based on his college coach being friends with the President of the team.

If there was every a massive reach this would be it.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1771 » by God Squad » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:23 am

Sell high on Knox if available. Keep him if the offers are terrible.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1772 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:19 pm

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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1773 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:20 pm

I'll start getting pissed at Knox once we invest a 1 year 15 million dollar contract with a TO or something stupid like that. For now, he's still young and I really hope that Rashard Lewis comparison pans out. We're not gonna get anything significant for him anyway.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1774 » by Infinitimind » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:26 pm

knicksh20b wrote:I'll start getting pissed at Knox once we invest a 1 year 15 million dollar contract with a TO or something stupid like that. For now, he's still young and I really hope that Rashard Lewis comparison pans out. We're not gonna get anything significant for him anyway.



I just think we destroyed the kid confidence, I remembered in the beginning of the season, he looked jack and was playing well enough we creating a thread about how good he was playing. It’s just said we signed 3 pf to take his minutes . Same with Frank and Dsj. This is what happens when you try to win at the expense of the kids. We just need better leadership and better coaches. None of our kids has gotten better here.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1775 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:36 pm

J9Starks3 wrote:Remember rookie year SL Knox? Good lord I thought we hit the jackpot....then real NBA players came into the picture...


he looked like lightskin KD for a hot minute.

he's still got potential. still only 20. it just looks like the fire in his belly may not be there... or we don't quite know how to use him.

he can't be a total scrub. he worked really hard on his body. he's still inconsistent on the court. he might just have low BBIQ, which is not an easy fix. i get the feeling he really loved football and just happens to be good at basketball.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1776 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:37 pm

knicksh20b wrote:I'll start getting pissed at Knox once we invest a 1 year 15 million dollar contract with a TO or something stupid like that. For now, he's still young and I really hope that Rashard Lewis comparison pans out. We're not gonna get anything significant for him anyway.


kevin knox is such a better athlete than rashard lewis. that's kind of insulting on that front.

obviously if he could shoot like lewis, he'd be something. that's a mighty lofty goal.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1777 » by F N 11 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:43 pm

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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1778 » by god shammgod » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:55 pm

Read on Twitter


"It's the best path for us," one front office member recently said.

This aligns with a directive that the Knicks were operating under prior to the 2020 trade deadline: Whatever happens, we need to maintain enough assets to be in position to trade for a star player. Even though he wasn't officially in charge at the time, it's fair to assume that Rose was on board with that thinking. And it's fair to assume that, based on that directive, Rose will be aggressive if the right young star becomes available via trade.

It's unclear if or when the next young star will privately -- or publicly -- seek a trade. But recent history suggests it's inevitable.

Just look at the past few seasons: Kyrie Irving, Jimmy Butler, Kristaps Porzingis and Anthony Davis have all asked to be traded.

Based on that trend, it's fair to assume that at least one young star will seek a trade within the next year or two.

The Knicks, you'll remember, had no interest in trading future assets for Butler. They engaged with Cleveland on Irving and with New Orleans on Davis, but New York wasn't comfortable giving up enough assets to land either player.

Under former team presidents Phil Jackson and Mills, the Knicks had been strongly opposed to dealing future first-round picks. This was a reasonable stance to take for an organization that had been burned so often by trading first-rounders in the past.

But before the 2020 deadline, that approach changed. The Knicks were comfortable including future first-round picks in deals for Russell and Charlotte's Terry Rozier.

The feeling among some in the organization is that they have so many picks (again, seven in the next four drafts) that they can afford to send one or two out in a trade if it nets a star.

In his letter to Knicks fans in early March, Rose offered a small window into how he may approach building the roster.

"Nothing about this is easy, or quick, so I ask for your continued patience. What I promise you in return is that I will be honest and forthright. We will develop a plan that makes sense, both to jumpstart our short-term growth and ensure our long-term success."

It seems like part of jumpstarting the Knicks' short-term growth includes being aggressive in trading for stars when the opportunity presents itself.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1779 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:59 pm

God Squad wrote:Sell high on Knox if available. Keep him if the offers are terrible.


Knox is the poster child of "draft busts" right now along the media mass market circuit so I don't think his value is anything but rock bottom at this point. Teams that would be interested likely would be looking to steal him for nothing and take a chance. I seriously doubt the Knicks will just let him go no matter what the media drums up to fill headlines. I would expect Knox to remain with the Knicks. I'm actually interested to see what happens when Thibs gets a hand on Knox.
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Re: Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74] 

Post#1780 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:15 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Read on Twitter


"It's the best path for us," one front office member recently said.

This aligns with a directive that the Knicks were operating under prior to the 2020 trade deadline: Whatever happens, we need to maintain enough assets to be in position to trade for a star player. Even though he wasn't officially in charge at the time, it's fair to assume that Rose was on board with that thinking. And it's fair to assume that, based on that directive, Rose will be aggressive if the right young star becomes available via trade.

It's unclear if or when the next young star will privately -- or publicly -- seek a trade. But recent history suggests it's inevitable.

Just look at the past few seasons: Kyrie Irving, Jimmy Butler, Kristaps Porzingis and Anthony Davis have all asked to be traded.

Based on that trend, it's fair to assume that at least one young star will seek a trade within the next year or two.

The Knicks, you'll remember, had no interest in trading future assets for Butler. They engaged with Cleveland on Irving and with New Orleans on Davis, but New York wasn't comfortable giving up enough assets to land either player.

Under former team presidents Phil Jackson and Mills, the Knicks had been strongly opposed to dealing future first-round picks. This was a reasonable stance to take for an organization that had been burned so often by trading first-rounders in the past.

But before the 2020 deadline, that approach changed. The Knicks were comfortable including future first-round picks in deals for Russell and Charlotte's Terry Rozier.

The feeling among some in the organization is that they have so many picks (again, seven in the next four drafts) that they can afford to send one or two out in a trade if it nets a star.

In his letter to Knicks fans in early March, Rose offered a small window into how he may approach building the roster.

"Nothing about this is easy, or quick, so I ask for your continued patience. What I promise you in return is that I will be honest and forthright. We will develop a plan that makes sense, both to jumpstart our short-term growth and ensure our long-term success."

It seems like part of jumpstarting the Knicks' short-term growth includes being aggressive in trading for stars when the opportunity presents itself.


Yeah I said back then, when they announced Rose as the hire, that it was pretty clear that it meant that the Knicks plan wasn't a long traditional rebuild. It wouldn't make sense to hire someone like Rose, who's biggest skill, is being an agent and working behind the scenes to convince top players what their best interests are and big dollar/impact moves. So this kinda only solidifies that. And you know what, that's a good thing cause at least now it seems like the plan actually is clear and it fits the person running the front office. It's a concrete plan that also is in line with what folks have to realize was always going to be the only option for the Knicks. Right or wrong, you want to have the best people to do whatever that right or wrong thing is. That way if you're right you're VERY right and if you're wrong, your MINIMALLY wrong...instead of the other way around (BARELY right to TERRIBLY wrong) which is where this organization has been for 20 years. Doesn't guarantee that Rose will be successful but at least the lineup (front office to goal) is better.

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