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Post#561 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:47 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think we probably need to temper expectations with all rookies contributing this year. With likely way less practice time than usual I wouldn't pencil anyone in as a starter.

I don't think that should change the approach because all those needs are long-term anyway.

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That is a good point, even if we need production from them. Almost all rookies are going to have slower development as a result of the reduced practice time
Looking at what the pack did in FA it seems they anticipated that. Wagner, Kingsley and funches are all vet bodies in positions of need that could bridge the gap for young guys.

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Post#562 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:06 pm

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Daver wrote:Bleacher report had a mock n higgins had like 80% of the vote very surprising


CBS has seven different contributors do mocks, right now;
Ryan Wilson - Brandon Aiyuk
Chris Trapasso - Jalen Reagor
Pete Prisco - Brandon Aiyuk
Will Brinson - Brandon Aiyuk
Josh Edwards - Ross Blacklock
RJ White - Denzel Mims
Tom Fornelli - Jalen Reagor

All but two have Justin Jefferson going to the Eagles at 21. The two that didn't, had him going 15 and going 21 but to the Vikings in a trade.


Wow not one mentioned higgins who most certainly moat likely will be there at 30 lol now watch the 1 receiver who was once considered a top 15 who no one but some fans are talking about will go 30 to green bay
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Post#563 » by Frank Nova » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:32 pm

I never really thought about this scenario but for the sake of argument, I’m taking D’Andre Swift at 30 if for some ridiculous reason he’s still there. The Bleacher Report fan mock GB took Mims but Swift was still available. We need dynamic players and we are gonna pass up arguably the most dynamic 1 based on position? That’d be hard to sell. Swift is a super dual threat with CM and Kamara type upside, how is it really justifiable to pass that up in our position? Trade Williams before the season and let Swift and Jones play 1-2 punch and then let Jones walk.

Jones and Swift is an elite duo from day 1 and we could probably get a decent LB or OL/DL back in a Jamal Williams trade.

1st - Swift
2nd Reagor
3rd Lewis

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Post#564 » by stillgotgame » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:14 pm

Like to see a RB in round 3 or 4. Gotta have insurance in case we let Aaron go.
Could Cam Akers drop, or will Zach Moss last that long? Different skill sets, but I think both will be good pros.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#565 » by M-C-G » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:21 pm

Frank Nova wrote:I never really thought about this scenario but for the sake of argument, I’m taking D’Andre Swift at 30 if for some ridiculous reason he’s still there. The Bleacher Report fan mock GB took Mims but Swift was still available. We need dynamic players and we are gonna pass up arguably the most dynamic 1 based on position? That’d be hard to sell. Swift is a super dual threat with CM and Kamara type upside, how is it really justifiable to pass that up in our position? Trade Williams before the season and let Swift and Jones play 1-2 punch and then let Jones walk.

Jones and Swift is an elite duo from day 1 and we could probably get a decent LB or OL/DL back in a Jamal Williams trade.

1st - Swift
2nd Reagor
3rd Lewis

Dream draft for me.

10 years ago, Dobbins, Taylor, Swift are probably top ten picks. Now? I won’t be shocked to see one available to us in the 2nd.


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#566 » by Frank Nova » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:18 pm

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Frank Nova wrote:I never really thought about this scenario but for the sake of argument, I’m taking D’Andre Swift at 30 if for some ridiculous reason he’s still there. The Bleacher Report fan mock GB took Mims but Swift was still available. We need dynamic players and we are gonna pass up arguably the most dynamic 1 based on position? That’d be hard to sell. Swift is a super dual threat with CM and Kamara type upside, how is it really justifiable to pass that up in our position? Trade Williams before the season and let Swift and Jones play 1-2 punch and then let Jones walk.

Jones and Swift is an elite duo from day 1 and we could probably get a decent LB or OL/DL back in a Jamal Williams trade.

1st - Swift
2nd Reagor
3rd Lewis

Dream draft for me.

10 years ago, Dobbins, Taylor, Swift are probably top ten picks. Now? I won’t be shocked to see one available to us in the 2nd.


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I know, that’s a solid point. Crazy to think the league has evolved in that regard. Swift was the only 1 I was certain would be gone. But if he’s available, he’s dynamic enough to step right in and impact our offense more so than any WR we are drafting at 30.
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Post#567 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:44 pm

CBS Sportsline has a new mock out they have GB giving up their 30th 94th and Pick 192 to philly for their 18th pick? And in turn drafting justin hefferson with queen n murray still on the board says hes the perfect WR for GBs O
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Post#568 » by Daver » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:48 pm

Oops 21st pick
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Post#569 » by MoMM » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:02 am

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Daver wrote:Think packers should kick the tires on that TE just cut from the bears was pretty good in philly


I might be on an island, but I really like our in house guys. I think that cheap shot in practice that concussed Jace really set him back. I'd like to see him be featured more, and I really think Tonyan looks great every time he gets snaps.


I'm with you. I like the trio of Tonyan/Jace/Lewis. Maybe they can add another guy in the draft like a Moss, Bryant or Okwuegbunam in the later rounds to compete with Bayless for the 4th TE spot.

What about our DT that became TE (Looney)?
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Post#570 » by Frank Nova » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:20 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Locked On Network had us taking Grant Delpit. Justification was with how much Dime we play, we need to reduce the amount of time Tramon or Jackson are on the field. And if you're playing Dime with versatile DBs, you worry less about the LB situations.


So we are gonna essentially waste a pick adding to an already over staffed platoon because we can’t trust 2 of the guys we already have? Wow. Carry 6 beers at 1 time? Brilliant!
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Post#571 » by Daver » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:26 pm

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Mags FTW wrote:Locked On Network had us taking Grant Delpit. Justification was with how much Dime we play, we need to reduce the amount of time Tramon or Jackson are on the field. And if you're playing Dime with versatile DBs, you worry less about the LB situations.


So we are gonna essentially waste a pick adding to an already over staffed platoon because we can’t trust 2 of the guys we already have? Wow. Carry 6 beers at 1 time? Brilliant!


I read that and said who the hell is that dude god i hope TT isnt taking over BG body what a absolutely horrible 1st round pick that would be
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Post#572 » by Treebeard » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:29 pm

From today's MJS:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2020/04/20/dougherty-tackle-looms-large-list-green-bay-packers-priorities-first-round-draft-pick/5154497002/

Dougherty: Tackle looms large on list of Packers' priorities with first-round draft pick
Pete Dougherty, Packers NewsPublished 7:00 a.m. CT April 20, 2020

Gutekunst certainly can make a case for using his top pick on any position except center, guard, safety and kicking-game specialist. Outside rusher is a stretch, too.

Tackle, on the other hand, figures to be in the thick of the mix when the Packers’ first pick comes up at No. 30 overall (barring a trade up or down).


Gutekunst let starting right tackle Bryan Bulaga walk in free agency and replaced him with a veteran stopgap, 30-year-old Rick Wagner, at a much cheaper cost ($5.75 million fully guaranteed to Bulaga’s $19.25 million guarantee from the Los Angeles Chargers). He’s the fallback option in a year when the coronavirus pandemic will make it tougher for a draft pick to beat him out for the starting job. But even then, the Packers also badly need a bona fide backup swing tackle for this season.


In other words, Gutekunst would have no trouble justifying taking a tackle at No. 30, even if the pick would lack pizzazz.

“Big guys are always harder to find,” said a scout for another NFL team of the draft premium placed on tackles. “You want to protect the quarterback.”

This year’s draft features four tackle prospects who probably will go in the first half of the first round and will be long gone by 30: Louisville’s Mekhi Becton, Alabama’s Jedrick Wills, Georgia’s Andrew Thomas and Iowa’s Tristan Wirfs.

Four others appear to be later first-round and early second-round prospects, and thus possibly on Gutekunst’s radar at 30: USC’s Austin Jackson, Boise State’s Ezra Cleveland, Houston’s Josh Jones and Georgia’s Isaiah Wilson.
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Post#573 » by Daver » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:21 pm

Treebeard wrote:From today's MJS:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2020/04/20/dougherty-tackle-looms-large-list-green-bay-packers-priorities-first-round-draft-pick/5154497002/

Dougherty: Tackle looms large on list of Packers' priorities with first-round draft pick
Pete Dougherty, Packers NewsPublished 7:00 a.m. CT April 20, 2020

Gutekunst certainly can make a case for using his top pick on any position except center, guard, safety and kicking-game specialist. Outside rusher is a stretch, too.

Tackle, on the other hand, figures to be in the thick of the mix when the Packers’ first pick comes up at No. 30 overall (barring a trade up or down).


Gutekunst let starting right tackle Bryan Bulaga walk in free agency and replaced him with a veteran stopgap, 30-year-old Rick Wagner, at a much cheaper cost ($5.75 million fully guaranteed to Bulaga’s $19.25 million guarantee from the Los Angeles Chargers). He’s the fallback option in a year when the coronavirus pandemic will make it tougher for a draft pick to beat him out for the starting job. But even then, the Packers also badly need a bona fide backup swing tackle for this season.


In other words, Gutekunst would have no trouble justifying taking a tackle at No. 30, even if the pick would lack pizzazz.

“Big guys are always harder to find,” said a scout for another NFL team of the draft premium placed on tackles. “You want to protect the quarterback.”

This year’s draft features four tackle prospects who probably will go in the first half of the first round and will be long gone by 30: Louisville’s Mekhi Becton, Alabama’s Jedrick Wills, Georgia’s Andrew Thomas and Iowa’s Tristan Wirfs.

Four others appear to be later first-round and early second-round prospects, and thus possibly on Gutekunst’s radar at 30: USC’s Austin Jackson, Boise State’s Ezra Cleveland, Houston’s Josh Jones and Georgia’s Isaiah Wilson.



Wasnt taushner a low round pick baka a 3rd rounder clifton ? I personally dont feel its necessary to pick a OT in the first round
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#574 » by Treebeard » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:53 pm

Daver wrote:
Treebeard wrote:From today's MJS:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2020/04/20/dougherty-tackle-looms-large-list-green-bay-packers-priorities-first-round-draft-pick/5154497002/

Dougherty: Tackle looms large on list of Packers' priorities with first-round draft pick
Pete Dougherty, Packers NewsPublished 7:00 a.m. CT April 20, 2020

Gutekunst certainly can make a case for using his top pick on any position except center, guard, safety and kicking-game specialist. Outside rusher is a stretch, too.

Tackle, on the other hand, figures to be in the thick of the mix when the Packers’ first pick comes up at No. 30 overall (barring a trade up or down).


Gutekunst let starting right tackle Bryan Bulaga walk in free agency and replaced him with a veteran stopgap, 30-year-old Rick Wagner, at a much cheaper cost ($5.75 million fully guaranteed to Bulaga’s $19.25 million guarantee from the Los Angeles Chargers). He’s the fallback option in a year when the coronavirus pandemic will make it tougher for a draft pick to beat him out for the starting job. But even then, the Packers also badly need a bona fide backup swing tackle for this season.


In other words, Gutekunst would have no trouble justifying taking a tackle at No. 30, even if the pick would lack pizzazz.

“Big guys are always harder to find,” said a scout for another NFL team of the draft premium placed on tackles. “You want to protect the quarterback.”

This year’s draft features four tackle prospects who probably will go in the first half of the first round and will be long gone by 30: Louisville’s Mekhi Becton, Alabama’s Jedrick Wills, Georgia’s Andrew Thomas and Iowa’s Tristan Wirfs.

Four others appear to be later first-round and early second-round prospects, and thus possibly on Gutekunst’s radar at 30: USC’s Austin Jackson, Boise State’s Ezra Cleveland, Houston’s Josh Jones and Georgia’s Isaiah Wilson.



Wasnt taushner a low round pick baka a 3rd rounder clifton ? I personally dont feel its necessary to pick a OT in the first round


Bulaga was a first-rounder(#23), with the knock agaiinst him as being slow and having T-Rex arms - and we've seen how well he's played.

It wouldn't surprise me for Gute to pick a Tackle in Round 1, but even reading the individual assessment of Cleveland and Jones in Dougherty's discussions with scouts, along with other writeups I've seen, those two guys are late round 2 or early 3, and Wilson maybe a round 4 guy. Cleveland does sound like a good fit for LaFleur.

Still, either take one of the primo LB's if they fall, or one of the many primo WR's for round one
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Post#575 » by Treebeard » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:19 pm

A thought on the likely absence of early workouts and even delayed start of the season on rookies: that schedule may elevate the demand for instant impact guys. While WR's and RB's certainly need to understand the playbook like everyone else, many of them are also more ready to impact the game on day 1.

If that idea is true, then our Mr. Taylor may get picked earlier than expected in a "normal" year
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Post#576 » by Frank Nova » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:25 pm

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Mags FTW wrote:Locked On Network had us taking Grant Delpit. Justification was with how much Dime we play, we need to reduce the amount of time Tramon or Jackson are on the field. And if you're playing Dime with versatile DBs, you worry less about the LB situations.


So we are gonna essentially waste a pick adding to an already over staffed platoon because we can’t trust 2 of the guys we already have? Wow. Carry 6 beers at 1 time? Brilliant!


I read that and said who the hell is that dude god i hope TT isnt taking over BG body what a absolutely horrible 1st round pick that would be


Delpit is no slouch, he’s a beast. I just hate that we have to continue the hamster wheel in our secondary and phase out the scrubs we continue to employ there. We’ve wasted very high end draft capital over the past few years on DBs and now a big FA splash for a safety and we are still contemplating how to make our secondary better every single year. I mean I don’t expect the Legion of Boom but for **** sake quit **** in 1 hand and wishing in the other at this point. I’d be happy with Delpit but I’d find it painfully hilarious we still are doing the same ****.
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Post#577 » by Rockmaninoff » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:30 pm

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So we are gonna essentially waste a pick adding to an already over staffed platoon because we can’t trust 2 of the guys we already have? Wow. Carry 6 beers at 1 time? Brilliant!


I read that and said who the hell is that dude god i hope TT isnt taking over BG body what a absolutely horrible 1st round pick that would be


Delpit is no slouch, he’s a beast. I just hate that we have to continue the hamster wheel in our secondary and phase out the scrubs we continue to employ there. We’ve wasted very high end draft capital over the past few years on DBs and now a big FA splash for a safety and we are still contemplating how to make our secondary better every single year. I mean I don’t expect the Legion of Boom but for **** sake quit **** in 1 hand and wishing in the other at this point. I’d be happy with Delpit but I’d find it painfully hilarious we still are doing the same ****.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#578 » by M-C-G » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:12 pm

Bryan Edwards reminds me a lot of James Jones. Let's make this happen in the middle rounds

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Post#579 » by sdn40 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:00 pm

Driver was taken in the 7th so no need to go with a high pick on a WR !!
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Post#580 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:01 pm

Semi realistic but more than likely gone before 30 big board.

Jordan Love
Justin Jefferson
Tee Higgins
Jedrick Willis

Mock draft range board
Patrick Queen
Brandon Aiyuk
Kenneth Murray
Zach Baun
Austin Jackson

Sleeper board
KJ Hamler
Ashtyn Davis
Lucas Niang

If they fell to the early 20’s I’d strongly consider trading up for either Love or Jefferson. I understand people scoffing at the idea as both likely aren’t impact players next year, but in general I think given the lack of or at least shortened off season program, this is a developmental year to draft. My head says it’s too early for the rodgers replacement, but I can’t stop thinking about how important it was for him to wait behind Brett Lorenzo. QB is the most important position in professional sports.
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