7footMONSTER wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:TheNetsFan wrote:That's a lot of money invested in a position that could account for less than 45 minutes a game combined if we go with occasional small lineups.
7footMONSTER wrote:Why do we want to lose most of our depth and waste $30-$40 million on a big who can’t shoot, dribble, or pass?
On offense, Gobert can’t hit the backboard outside of 2 feet. All he would do is clog up the paint making it even more difficult for KD and Kyrie to get to the rim.
All the best teams have bigs that can space the floor (Embiid, Brook Lopez, Ibaka, Gasol, Bam, Theis, AD, Jokic, Sabonis, KP...)
Gobert also doesn’t allow us to have any offensive versatility. With DJ and Gobert, we would have two bigs who do exactly the same thing. In crunch time, when we need spacing, we would have $40 million sitting on the bench (DJ + Gobert’s salaries).
Steve Kerr on the Lowe Post just said the entire league right now is looking for 6’6 and up players who can shoot, make plays, and defend. Look around the league, none of the smart teams are committing big salaries to rim running Centers.
Tend to agree with this. This is why I think they'd keep one of LeVert or Dinwiddie in a deal for a guy like Gobert, if they did one at all.
Still think they look for the homerun on a wing or a guard, like Beal, Mitchell, Murray, McCollum, Oladipo, Jrue or even Tobias Harris or Buddy Hield as lower cost options.
It feels like that homerun trade just isn’t available. Players like Murray, McCollum, and Hield would make us worse defensively and they make so much money that it would kill our depth just to make the salaries match.
I don't know these players make us that much worse defensively. Dinwiddie and LeVert who have the physical tools to defend and have shown flashes, but are at absolute best average team defenders and mediocre individual defender.
Allen has tremendous defensive potential, but the reality is the stars and management prefer Jordan gets the burn and Allen mimics Jordan's skillset too much. The reality is, Allen is likely gone anyway, Claxton will be the youth to be groomed and another solid, ring chasing vet big man will be added via FA or a mid-season trade on the cheap.
I really think that depth is being overrated by a lot of fans and pundits. One Murray, McCollum or Jrue, highly outweighs 2 guys 60% their ability and impact individually. If Kyrie or KD go down longer than a dozen games each for rest and another 5 to 10 for little stuff, all the depth in the world isn't saving us.
I think we’re coming back with pretty much the same roster. Maybe for luxury tax purposes we lose Temple.
This would shock me unless the teams who have the players we want aren't budging.
Kyrie / LeVert / Prince / KD / DJ
Dinwiddie / Harris / TLC / Chandler / Allen
Chiozza / Anderson / Musa / Rodi / Claxton
Cap before all the Corona Virus stuff, was projected to be $139 million.
This lineup above is $155 million assuming Harris signs for 3 years at $36 million.
The only true concern is hard cap in all likelihood. Teams with title aspirations have always shown they'll go deep into the tax for 1 to 5 year periods.
Plus we'll see how things are adjusted because of the during and post-pandemic economy. Player salaries may wind up pulled back 15 to 25% for an entire extra season.
Maybe it’s just me, but there’s no realistic homerun trade out there that outweighs the advantages of keeping our depth. I’d rather spread out the minutes, load manage KD and Kyrie, and have everyone fresh for the playoffs.
I think it's just you. Well, not just you as in the fans, or the pundits. A lot of them will agree with you. But I don't think KD, Kyrie, Tsai and Marks share your sentiment.
To beat a dead horse on my opinion perspective, for example... I think a lot of you guys wildly overrate the likelihood LeVert hits his ceiling and what LeVert's ceiling actually is, at least and especially on this roster. I love LeVert, one of my favorite Nets. So although we've seen what he can look like in short stretches when he's on and yes context... he's young, he's missed a lot of time to injury... he hasn't been able to work on his body in a get stronger/better/stamina way because he's always rehabbing... the bottomline is, sample size says he's currently just a good player who needs to be a focal point, at least as a 2nd option to really place his impact on the game.
Dinwiddie... Good player, underrated athlete, great contract for another year, still young and just entering his prime and certainly has some solid trade value... but... average efficiency at best, poor man's Iverson heroics attached with all that questionable decision making, attitude and some of the delusions of grandeur... as well as he has coexisted in stretches with other high usage players, he's also had multiple, multi-game stretches over the last 3 seasons where he is straight up detrimental to team success, on and off the court.
Allen, has great potential and is currently a good player. But does he really ever progress, or fully find his balls? He's a valuable player to have on a roster, he has real trade value, but he's currently replaceable. Right now literally by one of his teammates.
Kyrie is down for 21 games, I prefer Jamal Murray or CJ McCollum, etc., to be the one to be that depth, along with another vet min Temple level guy and hope one of the remaining youngins take a next step.
