Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[ProspectPark]

Just asking for a realistic trade. Not a list of every single leftover scrap part other teams are trying to get rid of.

LeVert and/or Dinwiddie, Allen, Musa or Rodi, Sixers pick, 1 or 2 future 1st round pick(s) with some reasonable protections for Beal is a good offer for the Wizards imho.

I've suggested this trade in many flavors, many times. You can expand it 70 different ways into a 3 or 4 team deal to send a better draft pick back to Washington, in a realistic deal for the other team(s) while still sending Washington most of the assets.

Say Phoenix winds up picking 9th. You can probably send Dinwiddie and the Sixers pick there for that pick.


Might be able to pull off the same for Donovan Mitchell around the deadline.


I think a similar package could get it done for Oladipo, with Allen going elsewhere, with some of the picks taken out.
Maybe something like Dipo/Myles Turner for Allen/LeVert/Musa/Prince/Sixers picks/future picks.
I'd even think about passing on a deal like this and keeping LeVert and try to pull off Dinwiddie and Allen for Turner.


I'd bet McCollum could be had for something along the lines of Allen, Prince, Musa or Rodi and LeVert or Dinwiddie and a pick.
I'd do that for sure if we kept LeVert.


Could they land Tobias Harris for Dinwiddie, Prince, Rodi or Musa, Allen to a third team and a pick? I think it's a real possibility.


Is it worth it if you can get Hield for LeVert/Prince and a pick?

Lol no faith in Dinwiddie and LeVert but you want to bring more expensive worse players like Gordon Hayward and Gary Harris.

I don't see how you can argue either of them vs. Gordon Hayward, I just don't.


Does LeVert have a higher ceiling then Gary Harris? Is he more talented/skilled? Probably yes on both. But what's the likelihood he achieves that ceiling? Overall careers thus far, they're about even.

Gary Harris is a good overall player who can shoot the lights out and is an extremely underrated defender. He's young and has remaining ceiling himself and is someone probably quite available because he's somewhat redundant on Denver's roster and the fact he's coming off a down year, going into a weird salary cap situation.

All that said, he's a guy you can almost definitely add without giving up either of Dinwiddie or LeVert, even Allen. You can probably send something like Prince, a 1st round pick and Musa or Rodi and get it done. He's a guy you essentially add knowing it's going to be hard to keep Harris and even more so if a separate trade for a star does kill most of your depth.

So the Wizards are going to trade Beal, a legit franchise player in his prime on a great contract, for injury prone LeVert, 1 year of Dinwiddie, Allen and some picks?

Why stop there? How bout after that trade, we’ll trade Pinson and a 2nd for Siakam and Ibaka?

[vincecarter4pres]

Just asking for a realistic trade. Not a list of every single leftover scrap part other teams are trying to get rid of.

LeVert and/or Dinwiddie, Allen, Musa or Rodi, Sixers pick, 1 or 2 future 1st round pick(s) with some reasonable protections for Beal is a good offer for the Wizards imho.

I've suggested this trade in many flavors, many times. You can expand it 70 different ways into a 3 or 4 team deal to send a better draft pick back to Washington, in a realistic deal for the other team(s) while still sending Washington most of the assets.

Say Phoenix winds up picking 9th. You can probably send Dinwiddie and the Sixers pick there for that pick.


Might be able to pull off the same for Donovan Mitchell around the deadline.


I think a similar package could get it done for Oladipo, with Allen going elsewhere, with some of the picks taken out.
Maybe something like Dipo/Myles Turner for Allen/LeVert/Musa/Prince/Sixers picks/future picks.
I'd even think about passing on a deal like this and keeping LeVert and try to pull off Dinwiddie and Allen for Turner.


I'd bet McCollum could be had for something along the lines of Allen, Prince, Musa or Rodi and LeVert or Dinwiddie and a pick.
I'd do that for sure if we kept LeVert.


Could they land Tobias Harris for Dinwiddie, Prince, Rodi or Musa, Allen to a third team and a pick? I think it's a real possibility.


Is it worth it if you can get Hield for LeVert/Prince and a pick?

Lol no faith in Dinwiddie and LeVert but you want to bring more expensive worse players like Gordon Hayward and Gary Harris.

I don't see how you can argue either of them vs. Gordon Hayward, I just don't.


Does LeVert have a higher ceiling then Gary Harris? Is he more talented/skilled? Probably yes on both. But what's the likelihood he achieves that ceiling? Overall careers thus far, they're about even.

Gary Harris is a good overall player who can shoot the lights out and is an extremely underrated defender. He's young and has remaining ceiling himself and is someone probably quite available because he's somewhat redundant on Denver's roster and the fact he's coming off a down year, going into a weird salary cap situation.

All that said, he's a guy you can almost definitely add without giving up either of Dinwiddie or LeVert, even Allen. You can probably send something like Prince, a 1st round pick and Musa or Rodi and get it done. He's a guy you essentially add knowing it's going to be hard to keep Harris and even more so if a separate trade for a star does kill most of your depth.

So the Wizards are going to trade Beal, a legit franchise player in his prime on a great contract, for injury prone LeVert, 1 year of Dinwiddie, Allen and some picks?

Why stop there? How bout after that trade, we’ll trade Pinson and a 2nd for Siakam and Ibaka?

Why don't you tell me what the last 5 stars were traded for? How bout it smart ass?

I mean I just went back off the top of my head for the last 7 and did it for you and they're all for similar packages as this.

2 young guys with some real potential, but not Blue Chip prospects, 2 to 3 1st round picks, usually not more than 1 likely to be better than the 10th overall pick, some throw in young fillers and some reasonable salary filler. Not always all of this either and the packages which are best were for real deal franchise guys.

[ProspectPark]

LeVert and/or Dinwiddie, Allen, Musa or Rodi, Sixers pick, 1 or 2 future 1st round pick(s) with some reasonable protections for Beal is a good offer for the Wizards imho.

I've suggested this trade in many flavors, many times. You can expand it 70 different ways into a 3 or 4 team deal to send a better draft pick back to Washington, in a realistic deal for the other team(s) while still sending Washington most of the assets.

Say Phoenix winds up picking 9th. You can probably send Dinwiddie and the Sixers pick there for that pick.


Might be able to pull off the same for Donovan Mitchell around the deadline.


I think a similar package could get it done for Oladipo, with Allen going elsewhere, with some of the picks taken out.
Maybe something like Dipo/Myles Turner for Allen/LeVert/Musa/Prince/Sixers picks/future picks.
I'd even think about passing on a deal like this and keeping LeVert and try to pull off Dinwiddie and Allen for Turner.


I'd bet McCollum could be had for something along the lines of Allen, Prince, Musa or Rodi and LeVert or Dinwiddie and a pick.
I'd do that for sure if we kept LeVert.


Could they land Tobias Harris for Dinwiddie, Prince, Rodi or Musa, Allen to a third team and a pick? I think it's a real possibility.


Is it worth it if you can get Hield for LeVert/Prince and a pick?



I don't see how you can argue either of them vs. Gordon Hayward, I just don't.


Does LeVert have a higher ceiling then Gary Harris? Is he more talented/skilled? Probably yes on both. But what's the likelihood he achieves that ceiling? Overall careers thus far, they're about even.

Gary Harris is a good overall player who can shoot the lights out and is an extremely underrated defender. He's young and has remaining ceiling himself and is someone probably quite available because he's somewhat redundant on Denver's roster and the fact he's coming off a down year, going into a weird salary cap situation.

All that said, he's a guy you can almost definitely add without giving up either of Dinwiddie or LeVert, even Allen. You can probably send something like Prince, a 1st round pick and Musa or Rodi and get it done. He's a guy you essentially add knowing it's going to be hard to keep Harris and even more so if a separate trade for a star does kill most of your depth.

So the Wizards are going to trade Beal, a legit franchise player in his prime on a great contract, for injury prone LeVert, 1 year of Dinwiddie, Allen and some picks?

Why stop there? How bout after that trade, we’ll trade Pinson and a 2nd for Siakam and Ibaka?

Why don't you tell me what the last 5 stars were traded for? How bout it smart ass?

I mean I just went back off the top of my head for the last 7 and did it for you and they're all for similar packages as this.

2 young guys with some real potential, but not Blue Chip prospects, 2 to 3 1st round picks, usually not more than 1 likely to be better than the 10th overall pick, some throw in young fillers and some reasonable salary filler. Not always all of this either and the packages which are best were for real deal franchise guys.

This is from an article written 2 months ago in the Undefeated:

“Wanting to have my jersey retired in Washington one day played a factor in me re-signing. Every night we walk into that arena, there’s five names up there. Those are some of the five greatest to ever touch a basketball. To be on pace to breaking the records that I am now and to be here for eight years already, that’s special. And coming into the prime of my career, you don’t know how much longer you have,” Beal said via The Undefeated.

Beal looked at players like Kobe Bryant as an inspiration to play their whole career in a single team.

“For me, I look at Kobe, I look at D-Wade [Dwyane Wade], I look at Dirk [Nowitzki], U.D. [Udonis Haslem], how they can stay in one situation for a long time. I hate change. If it happens, it happens. But if I can control it, I will finish in D.C,” he said.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-bradley-beal-pledges-loyalty-to-washington-wizards/

Beal has been on record like 50 times pledging his loyalty to the Wizards. Even if for some really strange reason, they wanted to trade him, they would definitely get a blue chip prospect in return.

Are you familiar with Brandon Ingram? SGA? You think those are not blue chip prospects? Stop wasting my time with your trash homer trades. LeVert and some expirings for Bradley Beal? GTFOH

[vincecarter4pres]

So the Wizards are going to trade Beal, a legit franchise player in his prime on a great contract, for injury prone LeVert, 1 year of Dinwiddie, Allen and some picks?

Why stop there? How bout after that trade, we’ll trade Pinson and a 2nd for Siakam and Ibaka?

Why don't you tell me what the last 5 stars were traded for? How bout it smart ass?

I mean I just went back off the top of my head for the last 7 and did it for you and they're all for similar packages as this.

2 young guys with some real potential, but not Blue Chip prospects, 2 to 3 1st round picks, usually not more than 1 likely to be better than the 10th overall pick, some throw in young fillers and some reasonable salary filler. Not always all of this either and the packages which are best were for real deal franchise guys.

This is from an article written 2 months ago in the Undefeated:

“Wanting to have my jersey retired in Washington one day played a factor in me re-signing. Every night we walk into that arena, there’s five names up there. Those are some of the five greatest to ever touch a basketball. To be on pace to breaking the records that I am now and to be here for eight years already, that’s special. And coming into the prime of my career, you don’t know how much longer you have,” Beal said via The Undefeated.

Beal looked at players like Kobe Bryant as an inspiration to play their whole career in a single team.

“For me, I look at Kobe, I look at D-Wade [Dwyane Wade], I look at Dirk [Nowitzki], U.D. [Udonis Haslem], how they can stay in one situation for a long time. I hate change. If it happens, it happens. But if I can control it, I will finish in D.C,” he said.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-bradley-beal-pledges-loyalty-to-washington-wizards/

Beal has been on record like 50 times pledging his loyalty to the Wizards. Even if for some really strange reason, they wanted to trade him, they would definitely get a blue chip prospect in return.

Are you familiar with Brandon Ingram? SGA? You think those are not blue chip prospects? Stop wasting my time with your trash homer trades. LeVert and some expirings for Bradley Beal? GTFOH

This is the same **** every player and their mother's mother has said, then poof, months later they're asking out, or they're denying it til the 11th hour.

SGA was a nice prospect. Actual Blue Chip? Not so sure. Ingram? Yeah, I think me and like 3 other posters on RealGM and a sportswriter on Twitter were the only ones still saying they loved him, last season... as in before this one...

How about answering all the other offers? How about looking at the other PG trade, the Westbrook trade, the Kawhi trade, Porzingis, the Harden trade, the Jimmy Butler trade, Cousins to New Orleans?

And guess what? Paul George is a better player then Beal, Anthony Davis is a league leading superstar, Westbrook a top 15 player, Kawhi an MVP candidate, etc. Beal is excellent, but he's not on the level of these guys. These are lock top 15, year in year out players, with any given year MVP talent. Beal is on that Cousins level stuff. Top 30 lock, years in and out of top 15 to 30 level.

Chill with the insults jackoff.

[ProspectPark]

Why don't you tell me what the last 5 stars were traded for? How bout it smart ass?

I mean I just went back off the top of my head for the last 7 and did it for you and they're all for similar packages as this.

2 young guys with some real potential, but not Blue Chip prospects, 2 to 3 1st round picks, usually not more than 1 likely to be better than the 10th overall pick, some throw in young fillers and some reasonable salary filler. Not always all of this either and the packages which are best were for real deal franchise guys.

This is from an article written 2 months ago in the Undefeated:

“Wanting to have my jersey retired in Washington one day played a factor in me re-signing. Every night we walk into that arena, there’s five names up there. Those are some of the five greatest to ever touch a basketball. To be on pace to breaking the records that I am now and to be here for eight years already, that’s special. And coming into the prime of my career, you don’t know how much longer you have,” Beal said via The Undefeated.

Beal looked at players like Kobe Bryant as an inspiration to play their whole career in a single team.

“For me, I look at Kobe, I look at D-Wade [Dwyane Wade], I look at Dirk [Nowitzki], U.D. [Udonis Haslem], how they can stay in one situation for a long time. I hate change. If it happens, it happens. But if I can control it, I will finish in D.C,” he said.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-bradley-beal-pledges-loyalty-to-washington-wizards/

Beal has been on record like 50 times pledging his loyalty to the Wizards. Even if for some really strange reason, they wanted to trade him, they would definitely get a blue chip prospect in return.

Are you familiar with Brandon Ingram? SGA? You think those are not blue chip prospects? Stop wasting my time with your trash homer trades. LeVert and some expirings for Bradley Beal? GTFOH

This is the same **** every player and their mother's mother has said, then poof, months later they're asking out, or they're denying it til the 11th hour.

SGA was a nice prospect. Actual Blue Chip? Not so sure. Ingram? Yeah, I think me and like 3 other posters on RealGM and a sportswriter on Twitter were the only ones still saying they loved him, last season... as in before this one...

How about answering all the other offers? How about looking at the other PG trade, the Westbrook trade, the Kawhi trade, Porzingis, the Harden trade, the Jimmy Butler trade, Cousins to New Orleans?

And guess what? Paul George is a better player then Beal, Anthony Davis is a league leading superstar, Westbrook a top 15 player, Kawhi an MVP candidate, etc. Beal is excellent, but he's not on the level of these guys. These are lock top 15, year in year out players, with any given year MVP talent. Beal is on that Cousins level stuff. Top 30 lock, years in and out of top 15 to 30 level.

Chill with the insults jackoff.

What’s your point? Most of those other players wanted out or had a year left on their deal. Beal doesn’t want out and just signed an extension that hasn’t even started yet.

The rest of your trades are even worse. For example the Pacers just went out of their way to sign Brogdon to a huge long term contract. Why would they do that and then right away downgrade the rest of their roster by trading Oladipo AND Turner?

The whole point for them was to pair Oladipo with Brogdon. Oladipo like Beal is a fan favorite who loves Indiana. He won MIP with the Pacers and blossomed into a superstar in front of their eyes. Does it makes sense to that they will want to trade their franchise player who they developed into a superstar for injury prone inefficient Caris LeVert?

Honestly man none of these trades are even worth responding to.

[MrDollarBills]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

[MrDollarBills]

I think we all have to assume that the old way of doing things is completely dead. KD and Ky are running things and Marks is gonna pull the trigger on whatever they want to do. The cute stuff about building a team the right way and staying flexible is gone.

I think Joe and JA are 100% gone. LeVert might've done enough to earn the respect of the vets with his stretch at the end but he's probably out too. Prince, Rodi, Musa - 1000% gone. Claxton is a toss up. All our draft picks are on the table.

If this was a regular year, I think Covington would've been available again this off-season. I think we really focus on beefing up on big wings that can either shoot or defend. I wouldn't be surprised if we start going after real PFs again. It all depends on who the stars like. I could see us going after guys like Aaron Gordon. Older guys like Ariza, Crowder, Rudy Gay. I don't think KD wants to play with another legit star. Just wants roleplayers who won't screw up so him and Kyrie can shine.

The rotation locks are:

Kyrie
Dinwiddie
Temple
KD
DJ

The team is gonna look drastically different. All this stuff about waiting for development is over.

Ty Lue is probably the best option as a coach for this squad. He's dealt with big egos, divas, and Kyrie before. He has proven playoff experience. He's well respected around the league.

The only other option I see is Mark Jackson - which would make me stop following the team - or some random assistant who KD and Kyrie hand pick.

This is how I feel, with Kenny gone things are going to change drastically and I expect significant turnover. I would not be shocked if Joe Harris is not retained.

Allen and LeVert are definitely gone. I think Musa and Kurucs are out too, the time table is very slim so there's no more time to see if guys will turn a corner or not.

KD, Kyrie, Jordan, and Temple are the only guys I can predict for sure will be here next year. The moment KD said that the team wasn't displaying championship habits, you have to figure that Marks will want to load the roster with experienced veterans.

It sucks, but the days of "Brooklyn Grit" and youth are gone. We are in win now mode, and it's okay. This is the entire point.

I think you guys undervaluing development part. We got Rodi, Nic and first round pick to work with. Tsai and Marks invested significant amount of staff and D league team for a reason. Let's not forget Marks is great at finding diamonds around the world. Din, LeVert, Joe all came from nowhere. Some might not be as high on Nic and Rodi but I'm 100 convinced these guys legit rotation players on a chip team.
Can we go get another star? Sure, but at what cost. Some coming up with crazy stuff, no way we going to do Billy King here. Most were 100% behind Boston trade, to do 180 in a matter of month. Than acted as they never supported it. I questioned this KD and Kyrie direction from the door because I knew drastic changes would come along.
We not moving Din for sure, because Ky and LeVert brittle as it gets. He almost single handedly kept us in P.O. contention and is legit 2 unit scorer which every chip team needs. LeVert is an all star when healthy, problem is he never is. In order to keep him healthy load management is a must. Marks said they going to spend, Joe is one player that needs to be retained.
I'm back on a train where I think we should see what we got with this team first. However I do want to trade Allen for a first to give Nic rotation spot. I'll give Prince another shot just because he's contract ain't bad and very easy moveable. He can fetch first or be used as trade guy later on.
How's everyone been, hope you guys staying safe. This virus as we know now ain't no joke and here to stay for a while. Stay safe and good luck to all of us.

Fam I hope you and your family is staying safe.

I think the only young guy who remains is Claxton since we would need a back up center in the event that Allen is traded, plus he has a really solid skill set and he has the type of aggressiveness that we need at that position

[drchaos]

I would be hesitant to include Rodi in any trade.

His salary is low, his upside is high, he plays more than one position and had almost no trade value.

What would you hope to get in return for him that has the same potential?

[TheNetsFan]

Somebody I think would be an ideal fit on this team is Mikal Bridges. I don't know if he's at all attainable, but you if you start with Dinwiddie, maybe you can get the Suns to at least start to listen.

Yes, most definitely a fan of a move like this.

I'd love if they could find a way to send something like Dinwiddie, Musa, Prince and a 1st round pick for him and Rubio.

That was my exact thought as well. Something centered around Dinwiddie+Prince+pick for a Rubio+Bridges. Bridges can be that guy that draws the toughest assignments each game. Essentially, a younger, better version of Temple.

[MrDollarBills]

I wish Spencer would stop retweeting the bad takes of crypto currency pushers regarding the coronavirus lockdown onto my timeline. I kind of like being under the illusion that players on our team aren't sociopaths.

That being said, I don't think Phoenix makes that deal. Rubio for Dinwiddie yes, but I doubt Bridges gets thrown in for the rest if that package

[ProspectPark]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

MDB,

Let’s say KD and Kyrie went to the Knicks. Do you think the Knicks were so desperate for stars, they would have given KD and Kyrie whatever they wanted? Like I could see the Knicks front office saying yes to everything. Pick your coach, pick your GM, pick your teammates, we don’t care, we just need you to sign.

Also, do you think if KD and Kyrie signed with NYK, immediately whatever negative image they had in the media would be instantly repaired and they would be seen as the heroes who are going to bring an iconic NBA franchise back to relevance?

Finally do you think KD and Kyrie would make more money in endorsements and sneaker sales if they played for the Knicks?

I just find it weird, that these two star players could have easily gone to the Knicks, improved their image in the media, made way more money, and would have complete autonomy over the franchise...and yet they chose to play for us. Instead of being a little grateful, our own fans are the first to fire shots at them. They sacrificed a lot to come here, yet we call them power hungry and selfish. That’s what’s frustrating.

[vincecarter4pres]

This is from an article written 2 months ago in the Undefeated:

“Wanting to have my jersey retired in Washington one day played a factor in me re-signing. Every night we walk into that arena, there’s five names up there. Those are some of the five greatest to ever touch a basketball. To be on pace to breaking the records that I am now and to be here for eight years already, that’s special. And coming into the prime of my career, you don’t know how much longer you have,” Beal said via The Undefeated.

Beal looked at players like Kobe Bryant as an inspiration to play their whole career in a single team.

“For me, I look at Kobe, I look at D-Wade [Dwyane Wade], I look at Dirk [Nowitzki], U.D. [Udonis Haslem], how they can stay in one situation for a long time. I hate change. If it happens, it happens. But if I can control it, I will finish in D.C,” he said.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-bradley-beal-pledges-loyalty-to-washington-wizards/

Beal has been on record like 50 times pledging his loyalty to the Wizards. Even if for some really strange reason, they wanted to trade him, they would definitely get a blue chip prospect in return.

Are you familiar with Brandon Ingram? SGA? You think those are not blue chip prospects? Stop wasting my time with your trash homer trades. LeVert and some expirings for Bradley Beal? GTFOH

This is the same **** every player and their mother's mother has said, then poof, months later they're asking out, or they're denying it til the 11th hour.

SGA was a nice prospect. Actual Blue Chip? Not so sure. Ingram? Yeah, I think me and like 3 other posters on RealGM and a sportswriter on Twitter were the only ones still saying they loved him, last season... as in before this one...

How about answering all the other offers? How about looking at the other PG trade, the Westbrook trade, the Kawhi trade, Porzingis, the Harden trade, the Jimmy Butler trade, Cousins to New Orleans?

And guess what? Paul George is a better player then Beal, Anthony Davis is a league leading superstar, Westbrook a top 15 player, Kawhi an MVP candidate, etc. Beal is excellent, but he's not on the level of these guys. These are lock top 15, year in year out players, with any given year MVP talent. Beal is on that Cousins level stuff. Top 30 lock, years in and out of top 15 to 30 level.

Chill with the insults jackoff.

What’s your point? Most of those other players wanted out or had a year left on their deal. Beal doesn’t want out and just signed an extension that hasn’t even started yet.

The rest of your trades are even worse. For example the Pacers just went out of their way to sign Brogdon to a huge long term contract. Why would they do that and then right away downgrade the rest of their roster by trading Oladipo AND Turner?

The whole point for them was to pair Oladipo with Brogdon. Oladipo like Beal is a fan favorite who loves Indiana. He won MIP with the Pacers and blossomed into a superstar in front of their eyes. Does it makes sense to that they will want to trade their franchise player who they developed into a superstar for injury prone inefficient Caris LeVert?

Honestly man none of these trades are even worth responding to.

Oladipo is not a superstar, not even close. He's had a terrible injury and looked like crap this season.

Plus they might lose him for nothing.

My proposals are exactly the type of trades that go down all the time in the NBA. Doesn't mean they will, but you just keep keeping on.

[ProspectPark]

This is the same **** every player and their mother's mother has said, then poof, months later they're asking out, or they're denying it til the 11th hour.

SGA was a nice prospect. Actual Blue Chip? Not so sure. Ingram? Yeah, I think me and like 3 other posters on RealGM and a sportswriter on Twitter were the only ones still saying they loved him, last season... as in before this one...

How about answering all the other offers? How about looking at the other PG trade, the Westbrook trade, the Kawhi trade, Porzingis, the Harden trade, the Jimmy Butler trade, Cousins to New Orleans?

And guess what? Paul George is a better player then Beal, Anthony Davis is a league leading superstar, Westbrook a top 15 player, Kawhi an MVP candidate, etc. Beal is excellent, but he's not on the level of these guys. These are lock top 15, year in year out players, with any given year MVP talent. Beal is on that Cousins level stuff. Top 30 lock, years in and out of top 15 to 30 level.

Chill with the insults jackoff.

What’s your point? Most of those other players wanted out or had a year left on their deal. Beal doesn’t want out and just signed an extension that hasn’t even started yet.

The rest of your trades are even worse. For example the Pacers just went out of their way to sign Brogdon to a huge long term contract. Why would they do that and then right away downgrade the rest of their roster by trading Oladipo AND Turner?

The whole point for them was to pair Oladipo with Brogdon. Oladipo like Beal is a fan favorite who loves Indiana. He won MIP with the Pacers and blossomed into a superstar in front of their eyes. Does it makes sense to that they will want to trade their franchise player who they developed into a superstar for injury prone inefficient Caris LeVert?

Honestly man none of these trades are even worth responding to.

Oladipo is not a superstar, not even close. He's had a terrible injury and looked like crap this season.

Plus they might lose him for nothing.

My proposals are exactly the type of trades that go down all the time in the NBA. Doesn't mean they will, but you just keep keeping on.

Exactly why it’s a horrible trade. We already lost this season because of injuries. Now you want to add more players with injury concerns to our team.

Why don’t we trade for Blake Griffin too? Then our entire starting lineup we be perpetually listed as questionable before every game. That sounds like a lot of fun.

[MGrand15]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

Yeah i dont really get the point of going at people so aggressively in a small community during a pandemic but the internet is a strange place. Bunch of weirdos.

I like Ty Lue actually. I think he gets a lot of flack because LBJ was really toxic around that time. And just to be real - not accusing you of this but more the general public - if he looked like Brad Stevens, I think the perception around him would be COMPLETELY different.

I'm not worried about the mental health stuff. By all accounts, he got into trouble because he's literally thinking about basketball 24/7. This is going to be a tough team to coach with literally the 2 moodiest cranky stars in the league. But so was Cleveland. People remember the Finals appearances and think it was all chill but those teams went through crazy turmoil and in-fighting every single year.

Who knows if Kyrie will actually give the team the green light to sign him though. Didn't seem like they had a good relationship.

[NyCeEvO]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

This is basically my stance.

I don't like how Kenny was removed for unresolvable differences. It was really messed up.

At the same time, there are two guys who have collectively won 3 championships and played in the last 4 Finals. They know what a championship caliber team looks like and what a coach must do (or not do) in order to win.

Let KD, Kyrie, and Marks will identify the players and let the coach manage the egos.

I'm not enthralled by any of the options thrown out there (although Stein's credibility has taken a hit in my eyes, since he left ESPN), but I certainly do not want Mark Jackson for the same reasons you stated.

I'm also not too sold on Kidd, despite saving the 2013-14 season after Lopez went down. For a guy who was so phenomenal on the court in his playing days, he doesn't seem to understand the nuances of the modern game. Also, I have no idea of his rapport with today's players. Unless he's surrounded by elite assistants, I'm leaning towards not wanting him. (I wonder if Kyrie had any input about the potential of Kidd. The fond memories of the NJ Nets could be blinding him lol.)

[NyCeEvO]

This is the same **** every player and their mother's mother has said, then poof, months later they're asking out, or they're denying it til the 11th hour.

SGA was a nice prospect. Actual Blue Chip? Not so sure. Ingram? Yeah, I think me and like 3 other posters on RealGM and a sportswriter on Twitter were the only ones still saying they loved him, last season... as in before this one...

How about answering all the other offers? How about looking at the other PG trade, the Westbrook trade, the Kawhi trade, Porzingis, the Harden trade, the Jimmy Butler trade, Cousins to New Orleans?

And guess what? Paul George is a better player then Beal, Anthony Davis is a league leading superstar, Westbrook a top 15 player, Kawhi an MVP candidate, etc. Beal is excellent, but he's not on the level of these guys. These are lock top 15, year in year out players, with any given year MVP talent. Beal is on that Cousins level stuff. Top 30 lock, years in and out of top 15 to 30 level.

Chill with the insults jackoff.

What’s your point? Most of those other players wanted out or had a year left on their deal. Beal doesn’t want out and just signed an extension that hasn’t even started yet.

The rest of your trades are even worse. For example the Pacers just went out of their way to sign Brogdon to a huge long term contract. Why would they do that and then right away downgrade the rest of their roster by trading Oladipo AND Turner?

The whole point for them was to pair Oladipo with Brogdon. Oladipo like Beal is a fan favorite who loves Indiana. He won MIP with the Pacers and blossomed into a superstar in front of their eyes. Does it makes sense to that they will want to trade their franchise player who they developed into a superstar for injury prone inefficient Caris LeVert?

Honestly man none of these trades are even worth responding to.

Oladipo is not a superstar, not even close. He's had a terrible injury and looked like crap this season.

I mean...he looked like crap this season BECAUSE he had a terrible injury and hasn't played enough NBA games to get his legs under him again.

Oladipo was definitely a star in the modern game. While he did improve, he also benefited from the rule "changes" (i.e. the lack of officiating the game properly) that turned the NBA into a spamming of PnR/Pnp/Isolation/DriveNKick and little to no defense.

[MrDollarBills]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

MDB,

Let’s say KD and Kyrie went to the Knicks. Do you think the Knicks were so desperate for stars, they would have given KD and Kyrie whatever they wanted? Like I could see the Knicks front office saying yes to everything. Pick your coach, pick your GM, pick your teammates, we don’t care, we just need you to sign.

Also, do you think if KD and Kyrie signed with NYK, immediately whatever negative image they had in the media would be instantly repaired and they would be seen as the heroes who are going to bring an iconic NBA franchise back to relevance?

Finally do you think KD and Kyrie would make more money in endorsements and sneaker sales if they played for the Knicks?

I just find it weird, that these two star players could have easily gone to the Knicks, improved their image in the media, made way more money, and would have complete autonomy over the franchise...and yet they chose to play for us. Instead of being a little grateful, our own fans are the first to fire shots at them. They sacrificed a lot to come here, yet we call them power hungry and selfish. That’s what’s frustrating.

I'm happy that they are here first of all. I haven't called KD or Kyrie selfish, but I do put some of the onus on Kenny's dismissal on them because if they wanted him here, he would still be here. Kenny was a fan favorite for a lot of us within the fanbase, so I think some of the anger surrounding his dismissal is justified. That being said, it is what it is, I'm over it and I'm ready to move on towards seeing this team compete at a high level for a championship.

[MrDollarBills]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

Yeah i dont really get the point of going at people so aggressively in a small community during a pandemic but the internet is a strange place. Bunch of weirdos.

I like Ty Lue actually. I think he gets a lot of flack because LBJ was really toxic around that time. And just to be real - not accusing you of this but more the general public - if he looked like Brad Stevens, I think the perception around him would be COMPLETELY different.

I'm not worried about the mental health stuff. By all accounts, he got into trouble because he's literally thinking about basketball 24/7. This is going to be a tough team to coach with literally the 2 moodiest cranky stars in the league. But so was Cleveland. People remember the Finals appearances and think it was all chill but those teams went through crazy turmoil and in-fighting every single year.

Who knows if Kyrie will actually give the team the green light to sign him though. Didn't seem like they had a good relationship.

I don't know if it's a racial issue regarding the perception of Lue, but it's not my call to make because I'm going by my own opinion of Lue from what I've seen. Me, I view him like Erik Spoelstra, a really good manager of egos and a guy that doesn't screw things up. There's really nothing wrong with that, I just want to see us have an exciting offense where the ball moves w/ a good blend between three point shooting and other types of possessions, while us being able to defend modern NBA offenses and not surrender open jump shots to guards.

As someone who deals with anxiety problems, I actually felt bad for Lue and I don't know how he got through all of that especially if he was an obsessive compulsive thinker, that stuff can drive you into a really bad place. if he does become coach, you just have to hope experience, the help that he got for his problem and age has made him relax a bit.

[MrDollarBills]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

This is basically my stance.

I don't like how Kenny was removed for unresolvable differences. It was really messed up.

At the same time, there are two guys who have collectively won 3 championships and played in the last 4 Finals. They know what a championship caliber team looks like and what a coach must do (or not do) in order to win.

Let KD, Kyrie, and Marks will identify the players and let the coach manage the egos.

I'm not enthralled by any of the options thrown out there (although Stein's credibility has taken a hit in my eyes, since he left ESPN), but I certainly do not want Mark Jackson for the same reasons you stated.

I'm also not too sold on Kidd, despite saving the 2013-14 season after Lopez went down. For a guy who was so phenomenal on the court in his playing days, he doesn't seem to understand the nuances of the modern game. Also, I have no idea of his rapport with today's players. Unless he's surrounded by elite assistants, I'm leaning towards not wanting him. (I wonder if Kyrie had any input about the potential of Kidd. The fond memories of the NJ Nets could be blinding him lol.)

Jacque Vaughn, Tyronn Lue, Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy are among the names on the Brooklyn Nets' head coaching job list.

Tom Thibodeau is believed to only be a candidate for the New York Knicks.

The Nets' process to find a permanent replacement for Kenny Atkinson is believed to only accelerate after the 19-20 season is either completed or canceled.

Mike Brown is another potential candidate.

Vaughn caught a raw deal because he didn't get a chance to really show what he could do.

Jason Kidd is a definite no. The inclusion of him on this list makes me believe it's bull **** tbh.

Jeff Van Gundy...I don't know. When I hear him talk on ABC it makes me think that he's just a miserable old man nowadays who complains about everything. I'd rather stick with someone relatively younger like Vaughn or Lue.

[ProspectPark]

Hey guys I know things are frustrating right now with life being a complete **** show and with no basketball to help take our minds off of everything, but we don't have to get at each other's throats over speculation about what will happen.

Do I hate what happened with Kenny? Yes. He helped to bring the Nets back I to relevancy. That being said, if KD and Kyrie weren't vibing with him, and he and Marks weren't on the same page anymore, what can we do?

Am I excited about the prospect of Ty Lue becoming coach? Not really, but he seems to be able to be able to handle big egos and alpha personality players. However, I do think that the fact that he had mental health issues due to the stress he was under in Cleveland which led to him having to be hospitalized is a cause for concern. There is going to be a lot of pressure on the next head coach of this team, so whoever it is will have to be able to handle it.

I absolutely do NOT want Mark Jackson here. He is a fossil in terms of basketball philosophy and on top of that he's a bigot, and an organization like the Nets who prides itself on being an inclusive, welcoming to all types of people organization should not have anything to do with him. There's a reason why he hasn't had a coaching job since the Warriors fired him.

I think we need someone who is a good personality manager that has a good balance between trusting analytical data and knowing when to coach based off the flow of the game. Every game is different and where Kenny got in trouble at times was being inflexible. I trust Marks enough to find the right coach for a team that wants to be a contender

Yeah i dont really get the point of going at people so aggressively in a small community during a pandemic but the internet is a strange place. Bunch of weirdos.

I like Ty Lue actually. I think he gets a lot of flack because LBJ was really toxic around that time. And just to be real - not accusing you of this but more the general public - if he looked like Brad Stevens, I think the perception around him would be COMPLETELY different.

I'm not worried about the mental health stuff. By all accounts, he got into trouble because he's literally thinking about basketball 24/7. This is going to be a tough team to coach with literally the 2 moodiest cranky stars in the league. But so was Cleveland. People remember the Finals appearances and think it was all chill but those teams went through crazy turmoil and in-fighting every single year.

Who knows if Kyrie will actually give the team the green light to sign him though. Didn't seem like they had a good relationship.

People go at you because you habitually spam this board with constant idiotic statements. You are never able to back up anything. Just like your Mark Jackson prediction where you said other than Lue, Mark Jackson IS THE ONLY OTHER OPTION. Just constant whining and bitching from you all season.

Example above. Calling KD and Kyrie moody and cranky. Again, I keep asking you this. Are you around them everyday? Are you in the locker room? Any evidence to back this up? Why does every teammate Kyrie has ever had speak highly of him? Why did the players just vote Kyrie into a leadership position in the players union?

All you do is spam this board with constant cheap shots at our players. Everyone sucks. Our culture is gone. There’s tension in the locker room. We’re not building the right way. Ok, no one is forcing you to be a fan of this team.