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Packers First Round - Jordan Love - POLL ADDED

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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#81 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:55 am

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humanrefutation wrote:BTW, I have a feeling that with Aaron's injury history, Love is going to be seeing snaps sooner than you'd think.


Yup. Rogers competitive drive is still there, but does the body continue to hold up?

I think that's the entire gist of the argument for picking a QB. Just because these guys want to keep playing into their late 30's/early 40's doesn't mean the body is always willing. I do think we've seen less of Rodgers being an elite QB than we used to, it's just hard to know how much of that is because if the complete lack of weapons we've given him to work with.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#82 » by MAC1987 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:56 am

I personally don't think this is fair. Favre was pondering retirement for years and close into start of season. What did Favre expect? Arod was a no brainer.

This is risky.
books wrote:Will be interesting to see how Aaron handles this, since he was on the other side of this once. Does he act like Favre and go "I'm not paid to mentor a backup" and carry a grudge against the GM, or does he welcome Love as a teammate and act graciously and not like a d***?

I think he'll be gracious. More gracious than a lot of GB fans will be.


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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#83 » by neiLz » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 am

One **** game away from super bowl and they take a qb. Goal is to win the super bowl. Rodgers will be a packer a minimum of 2-3 years.

Love has talent and hope hes the future. But wtf is up with this organization and ignoring weapons for their hall of fame qbs.


They whiffed on almost every defensive pick.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#84 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 am

stillgotgame wrote:Rodgers is under contract for 4 more years. Can’t trade him for at least 2, too much cap hit. Gonna be an awkward couple years.


Hopefully Aaron has learned from his experience under Favre.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#85 » by JayMKE » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 am

There are guys like Jordan Love every draft (the small school QB who is kind of garbage but has good measurables), that's part of why its honestly so infuriating since you can get the same type of player later on in the draft any time in the next 2-3 years. If you're worried about Rodgers getting hurt, get a decent back up veteran that can maybe carry us a game or two that isn't learning on the job.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#86 » by El Duderino » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 am

Treebeard wrote:Like I wrote on the other thread: Ask me again in three years if this was really dumb, or really smart.


This is it.

QB is so vital to success in the NFL. If Love becomes a good starting QB whenever his time comes to play, this pick will make Gutekunst look like a genius. If instead Love busts, Gutekunst likely loses his job.

The kid has special physical talent, we'll see if he can be taught the mental aspects.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#87 » by skones » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:58 am

This pick has no effect on Rodgers. It's not awkward, it's not weird. The problem is that Queen was sitting right there and we had a need. WR in round two will shut a lot of mouths.
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Post#88 » by raysbookclub » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:59 am

MAC1987 wrote:I personally don't think this is fair. Favre was pondering retirement for years and close into start of season. What did Favre expect? Arod was a no brainer.

This is risky.
books wrote:Will be interesting to see how Aaron handles this, since he was on the other side of this once. Does he act like Favre and go "I'm not paid to mentor a backup" and carry a grudge against the GM, or does he welcome Love as a teammate and act graciously and not like a d***?

I think he'll be gracious. More gracious than a lot of GB fans will be.


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totally true. Favre had no reason to be mad since he kept talking retirement. Even so, from this point on, regardless of whether he has a right to be mad or not, Aaron still can be a great teammate or a not-great teammate, get along with Gutey or not get along with him.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#89 » by Bernman » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:59 am

Yeah, look at the bright side, maybe it lights a fire under Rodgers' ass, and so the Packers get some extra improvement from w/in. God knows he's needed to be more accountable the last couple of years well under-performing his talent.

For Love, don't know the appropriate optimistic analog is Rodgers or Mahomes, rather Favre. Favre had much worse #'s even at a smaller school. There was no standout season to draw hope from unlike Love.

It would be fun if in time it proves we've just ensured good quarterbacking for 45+ years straight, while Da Bears have had 0.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#90 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:59 am

humanrefutation wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:Rodgers is under contract for 4 more years. Can’t trade him for at least 2, too much cap hit. Gonna be an awkward couple years.


Hopefully Aaron has learned from his experience under Favre.


Again, I'm cool with this pick. But I'm not holding my breath on this part :lol: Aaron does not seem like this guy.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#91 » by RRyder823 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:00 am

JayMKE wrote:
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He won’t smell the field for 3 years. Good thing is we’ll have much higher draft picks over those years.


Worked alright the last time. :dontknow:


some weird cargo cult logic, "well we did it with Rodgers"...

Rodgers was legitimately in the running to be the #1 pick that year and a MUCH MUCH better college QB as well, I don't see much comparison.
God this freaking argument

Rodgers was in running to be drafted #1 because SF was drafting and needed a QB. Neither him nor Smith were in consideration as the best players in that draft.

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Post#92 » by jimmybones » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:00 am

awd4cy wrote:I’m sorry, I think that was a dumb pick. There’s so many holes on this team that aren’t going to be filled for next year. We were damn lucky to be 13-3 last year. Bet this year is quite a step back.


I’m sorry, I think this is a dumb analysis.

But seriously, if he’s a franchise qb, I don’t care about “holes” next year that we weren’t guaranteed to fill by any of these available players. You don’t draft to fill holes for next year, ever.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#93 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:00 am

Looking at the Packers FB story makes me feel like they were tipping this move. :lol:
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#94 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:01 am

I couldn't care less how Rodgers feels about this.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#95 » by humanrefutation » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:02 am

MikeIsGood wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:Rodgers is under contract for 4 more years. Can’t trade him for at least 2, too much cap hit. Gonna be an awkward couple years.


Hopefully Aaron has learned from his experience under Favre.


Again, I'm cool with this pick. But I'm not holding my breath on this part :lol: Aaron does not seem like this guy.


I actually think he'll be good with Love, but I have to think that he's pissed that we didn't take someone who can help now.

Oh, to be a fly on his wall right now.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#96 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:02 am

MickeyDavis wrote:I couldn't care less how Rodgers feels about this.


I will never understand loyalism to a player over the team, lol.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#97 » by neiLz » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:03 am

El Duderino wrote:
Treebeard wrote:Like I wrote on the other thread: Ask me again in three years if this was really dumb, or really smart.


This is it.

QB is so vital to success in the NFL. If Love becomes a good starting QB whenever his time comes to play, this pick will make Gutekunst look like a genius. If instead Love busts, Gutekunst likely loses his job.

The kid has special physical talent, we'll see if he can be taught the mental aspects.

My issue is if he starts in 3 years what are the odds he's a pro bowl player, Andy Dalton type, or bust? If he's Dalton it's a huge waste. Packers will go 8-8 and get the 15th pick with him. I'd rather then move on from Rodgers and tank a year or two get the best qb in said draft and build from there.

The pressure for love is ridiculous. With Favre, he always talked retirement so the Packers had to prepare plus the best qb prospect in the draft slipped in Rodgers.

Rodgers has been talking about playing out his contract.

I hope it works out but to me the only way it works out is if he's a pro bowler once he starts.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#98 » by M-C-G » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:03 am

No beef with Love and if we were going to try and get our next QB in this draft I guess doing it in the first to get the 5 year option is wise.

But if you were contemplating this why did you extend Rodgers? I am fairly certain you had him under contract for two more seasons anyways, what was the rush?

I think we have exactly two more seasons of Rodgers and I think they got cute trying to imitate that Chiefs.

Draft was really unkind, but I would have been fine with Queen. Here is hoping a WR drops to us in the second. And here is hoping we can flip Taylor for a third or fourth


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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#99 » by stillgotgame » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:03 am

15/30, 0 TD 3 INT in a blowout loss to LSU. Quite the competitor.
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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love 

Post#100 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:03 am

I think the part that is throwing me is that nobody drafts a QB in the first round with a plan to sit him for 2-3 years anymore. Has anyone really done it since we did with Rodgers?

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