Packers First Round - Jordan Love - POLL ADDED

[emunney]

Fwiw, I think we can get a really good WR in round 2 or 3. Not worried about that.

[RRyder823]

About Favre, remember that he was drafted by the Falcons near the top of the 2nd round. Wolf who was GM of the Jets at the time believed in Favre but had to settle for Browning Nagle right behind the Falcons' pick.

Wolf comes to the Packers a year later and, trusting his evaluation, trades a 1st rounder (!!) for Favre, who did absolutely nothing his rookie year besides party. He was QB3, in the coach's doghouse, stats were 5 snaps with 1 sack and 0-for-4 completions and 2 INTs and 1 pick-6.

Bottom line, scouts/GMs have to trust their eyes and their feel for a player. They aren't going to be right all the time (Wolf trading up for Jamal Reynolds!, and Seattle in return got Hasselback and the #17 pick: HOFer Steve Hutchinson, ugh, and Dan Morgan went right after Reynolds). But they have to stick with their evaluations. Gutey thinks Love can be a top QB; you gotta respect his conviction and courage picking him.

Who was the QB for the Packers when they traded for Favre? Were the Packers going to win with that QB?

Magik man was a pretty good QB

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[ReasonablySober]

Kiper has us under his Winners

Green Bay Packers
The pick: Jordan Love, QB, Utah State (No. 26)

I love this landing spot for Love, a developmental quarterback who had a rough season after the Aggies lost a ton of talent around him. He threw 17 interceptions (most in the FBS), but you can't blame him for all of those. And you also can't coach the arm talent he has. Yes, the Packers traded a fourth-round pick to move up four spots to get Love, but Matt LaFleur now gets a young quarterback who can sit behind Aaron Rodgers and learn, just as Rodgers did all those years ago under Brett Favre.

Rodgers might not like the pick, but he is 36 and can't play forever. He knows he's not on the clock -- he has been there. Green Bay still has the talent to win now, but I like the move thinking long term. And look for Green Bay to target a wide receiver on Day 2

[tski1972]

About Favre, remember that he was drafted by the Falcons near the top of the 2nd round. Wolf who was GM of the Jets at the time believed in Favre but had to settle for Browning Nagle right behind the Falcons' pick.

Wolf comes to the Packers a year later and, trusting his evaluation, trades a 1st rounder (!!) for Favre, who did absolutely nothing his rookie year besides party. He was QB3, in the coach's doghouse, stats were 5 snaps with 1 sack and 0-for-4 completions and 2 INTs and 1 pick-6.

Bottom line, scouts/GMs have to trust their eyes and their feel for a player. They aren't going to be right all the time (Wolf trading up for Jamal Reynolds!, and Seattle in return got Hasselback and the #17 pick: HOFer Steve Hutchinson, ugh, and Dan Morgan went right after Reynolds). But they have to stick with their evaluations. Gutey thinks Love can be a top QB; you gotta respect his conviction and courage picking him.

Who was the QB for the Packers when they traded for Favre? Were the Packers going to win with that QB?

Magik man was a pretty good QB

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Majik’s shoulder was shot when the Favre trade happened.

[M-C-G]

Could have traded down, picked up a late third or early fourth and targeted Jake Fromm.

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This is what is so bizarre. So if you told me BG was all in on Love for weeks, okay. You get your guy regardless of position. I can respect that.

But as a secondary plan if you can't get your receiver? Bizarre and less convincing.

So why not trade up for the receiver (s) you allegedly wanted more then? Especially if you're willing to burn the 4th rounder?

https://www.drafttek.com/nfl-trade-value-chart.asp

I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.

[Profound23]

The ONLY acceptable explanation for this pick is they think Love is Mahomes.

If Love isn't a top-8 QB in 3-4 years, and Rodgers still only has one ring, this was a massive failure.

Probably another scenario, say Rodgers starts to miss more games with injuries. Love could give you a chance at going .500 while Rodgers is out and maintain a chance at the playoffs.

I don't know, I am pretty disappointed with how the first round went, but let's see what happens in 2 & 3. Let's say one of Hamler/Mims/Pittman/Shenault and sigh, maybe even Tee Higgins are there in the second.

Then Malik Harrison/Dye/Logan Wilson/Willie Gay Jr are there in the third...I'm pretty damn happy, will be interesting to see how this plays out.

There are so many possibilities. Maybe Rodgers catches fire again and we trade Love for a first.

Wasn’t there a lot of chatter that New England was in on Love? They traded out of the first when Love was readily available for them. I find that curious.

There was also a lot of chatter this morning that NE was trying to trade back up into the bottom of the first and once we took Love, those calls stopped. They may have thought they could trade down, pick up an extra third, then trade back up only giving up a 4th or 5th and still get Love. Maybe they thought we were their main competition for Love so trade out of 24, get a 3rd, trade back up to 29 and give up a 5th and basically you just traded a 5th for a 3rd while still getting Love. Then we messed them over by trading up for Love and now they're regretting it.

[MissKhriddleton]

Queen is going to haunt my dreams.

[Jollay]

I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.

I'll agree with this...giving up a third in a WR deep draft is a little much as well. I have little problem burning a 4th, though it may have been unnecessary.

Where I have an issue is BG saying we were looking to trade down when our (presumably) receiver wasn't there and then in effect saying Love is so good we need to trade up and get him.

Well if you really believe he's that good don't tell me the secondary plan being grab a generational talent at QB. That should be your first plan if you really think so.

Just inconsistent reasoning. People on this board can't say he's the next Rodgers in BG's mind when he wasn't even the primary plan.

[Jollay]

I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.

I'll agree with this...giving up a third in a WR deep draft is a little much as well. I have little problem burning a 4th, though it may have been unnecessary.

Where I have an issue is BG saying we were looking to trade down when our (presumably) receiver wasn't there and then in effect saying Love is so good we need to trade up and get him.

Well if you really believe he's that good don't tell me the secondary plan being grab a generational talent at QB. That should be your first plan if you really think so.

Just inconsistent reasoning. People on this board can't say he's the next Rodgers in BG's mind when he wasn't even the primary plan.[/quote]

[tski1972]

Wasn’t there a lot of chatter that New England was in on Love? They traded out of the first when Love was readily available for them. I find that curious.

There was also a lot of chatter this morning that NE was trying to trade back up into the bottom of the first and once we took Love, those calls stopped. They may have thought they could trade down, pick up an extra third, then trade back up only giving up a 4th or 5th and still get Love. Maybe they thought we were their main competition for Love so trade out of 24, get a 3rd, trade back up to 29 and give up a 5th and basically you just traded a 5th for a 3rd while still getting Love. Then we messed them over by trading up for Love and now they're regretting it.

That goes against every single theory of “if your guy is there, don’t trade back”.

[Ron Swanson]

I guess I don't know how so many people can be confident these days in projecting how these QB prospects will develop. One-read, air-raid offenses aren't some gimmick anymore. Not when guys like Kyler Murray are going 1st overall. And this isn't us taking a flier on Brett Hundley in the 5th round. You had a bunch of scouts saying that they view Love as the 2nd most talented QB prospect in the draft behind Tua.

Fully acknowledge the wide spectrum of boom/bust potential that he brings, but let's reign in some perspective. I'm not seeing Kizer at all. I'm seeing more Ryan Tannehill if anything. Whether that's the high or low end of his ceiling is the question, but these days there's no more valuable style of QB to have than a mobile guy who can throw outside the pocket. You can teach a 21-year old to play under center and progress through reads. You can't teach that kind of arm talent.

[ReasonablySober]

I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.

I'll agree with this...giving up a third in a WR deep draft is a little much as well. I have little problem burning a 4th, though it may have been unnecessary.

Where I have an issue is BG saying we were looking to trade down when our (presumably) receiver wasn't there and then in effect saying Love is so good we need to trade up and get him.

Well if you really believe he's that good don't tell me the secondary plan being grab a generational talent at QB. That should be your first plan if you really think so.

Just inconsistent reasoning. People on this board can't say he's the next Rodgers in BG's mind when he wasn't even the primary plan.

Do you think it was the Packers plan all along to have Rodgers fall into their laps? Of course not. When he became available they grabbed him.

[TheProdigy]

I am beyond pissed about this pick. That being said, if I see any Packer fans harassing Jordan Love like they did with Rodgers, I'm going to plant my foot straight up their back side. No place for that.

[tski1972]

https://www.drafttek.com/nfl-trade-value-chart.asp

I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.

I’m not singling you out, but I hate the pick value chart and I hate that people believe it to be reliable source of whether or not a pick trade is good.

Give me more picks between rounds 2-4 over moving up a couple of spots in round 1 all day, every day.

[Jollay]

There was also a lot of chatter this morning that NE was trying to trade back up into the bottom of the first and once we took Love, those calls stopped. They may have thought they could trade down, pick up an extra third, then trade back up only giving up a 4th or 5th and still get Love. Maybe they thought we were their main competition for Love so trade out of 24, get a 3rd, trade back up to 29 and give up a 5th and basically you just traded a 5th for a 3rd while still getting Love. Then we messed them over by trading up for Love and now they're regretting it.

I just can't buy this. If you think he's a franchise QB you just don't mess around like this.

[tski1972]

I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.

I'll agree with this...giving up a third in a WR deep draft is a little much as well. I have little problem burning a 4th, though it may have been unnecessary.

Where I have an issue is BG saying we were looking to trade down when our (presumably) receiver wasn't there and then in effect saying Love is so good we need to trade up and get him.

Well if you really believe he's that good don't tell me the secondary plan being grab a generational talent at QB. That should be your first plan if you really think so.

Just inconsistent reasoning. People on this board can't say he's the next Rodgers in BG's mind when he wasn't even the primary plan.

Do you think it was the Packers plan all along to have Rodgers fall into their laps? Of course not. When he became available they grabbed him.

But they didn’t trade up for Rodgers. There is a difference.

[Jollay]

Do you think it was the Packers plan all along to have Rodgers fall into their laps? Of course not. When he became available they grabbed him.

Lots of mocks had Love there even at 30. None that I saw had Rodgers where we got em.

And, they said at the time Rodgers was the highest rated guy they assessed there. Fine. Gute said they were looking at somebody else and explored trading down when he wasnt there.

Huge differences.

[stillgotgame]

I guess I don't know how so many people can be confident these days in projecting how these QB prospects will develop. One-read, air-raid offenses aren't some gimmick anymore. Not when guys like Kyler Murray are going 1st overall. And this isn't us taking a flier on Brett Hundley in the 5th round. You had a bunch of scouts saying that they view Love as the 2nd most talented QB prospect in the draft behind Tua.

Fully acknowledge the wide spectrum of boom/bust potential that he brings, but let's reign in some perspective. I'm not seeing Kizer at all. I'm seeing more Ryan Tannehill if anything. Whether that's the high or low end of his ceiling is the question, but these days there's no more valuable style of QB to have than a mobile guy who can throw outside the pocket. You can teach a 21-year old to play under center and progress through reads. You can't teach that kind of arm talent.

The ability to learn to process quickly is what makes an NFL quarterback, not arm strength. Jameis Winston has twice the arm Drew Brees has. Jeff George could throw a ball through a wall and it didn't matter.

[MAC1987]

Perfect comment I want to quote.

If this doesn't pan out and Love is a bust, every GB owner and fan should be calling for Murphy Gute and Lafleur all being fired.

Fair or foul?

In my opinion fair. This is a risky move and has to work out. This is a long term move when maybe they should be more focused on now....i.e get AROD some weapons.

The ONLY acceptable explanation for this pick is they think Love is Mahomes.

If Love isn't a top-8 QB in 3-4 years, and Rodgers still only has one ring, this was a massive failure.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

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Well that's just funny, come on Bob lol

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