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Packers First Round - Jordan Love - POLL ADDED

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Re: Packers First Round - Jordan Love - POLL ADDED 

Post#341 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:59 pm

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Lots of mocks had Love there even at 30. None that I saw had Rodgers where we got em.

And, they said at the time Rodgers was the highest rated guy they assessed there. Fine. Gute said they were looking at somebody else and explored trading down when he wasnt there.

Huge differences.


I didn't see any mocks with him at #30, but I saw a lot in the top twenty.
Because pretty much everyone thought the Pats were going to take him.


Or the Saints, Raiders, and Phins if they didn't take a QB at five.
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Post#342 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:59 pm

Hell, McShay lost a $5000 bet because he believed Love would go in front of Herbert.
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Post#343 » by Matches Malone » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:01 pm

Draft Network -

Love has franchise quarterback qualities and should be regarded as a prospect with a Pro Bowl ceiling. Love's statistical regression in 2019 isn't indicative of regression in skills or decision making; he was a victim of a poor supporting cast in many instances. Love will need patience and must go to a team with a coaching staff able to nurture, develop and cater passing schemes to where he thrives. He isn't plug-and-play player but he's a potential game-changing QB.
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Post#344 » by dbrodz7 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:02 pm

Not sure if someone already shared this, but I highly recommend taking the time to watch this entire video. Best thing I've seen regarding Jordan Love.
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Post#345 » by msiris » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:04 pm

H2tObes wrote:
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the 49ers were crap for awhile...what do you mean rebound quick...they got to use early picks on the d line for awhile
They were bad the year before and then they go to the SB. Thats pretty fast.

What?

49ERS RECORD
2014: 8-8
2015: 5-11
2016: 2-14
2017: 6-10
2018: 4-12
2019: 13-3

You could at least google to avoid spouting nonsense. That's a rebuild, not a 1 season turnaround
How many teams go from 4-12 to the SB the next year? So basically they turned it around in one year.
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Post#346 » by tski1972 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:05 pm

H2tObes wrote:
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BallinBucks420 wrote:

the 49ers were crap for awhile...what do you mean rebound quick...they got to use early picks on the d line for awhile
They were bad the year before and then they go to the SB. Thats pretty fast.

What?

49ERS RECORD
2014: 8-8
2015: 5-11
2016: 2-14
2017: 6-10
2018: 4-12
2019: 13-3

You could at least google to avoid spouting nonsense. That's a rebuild, not a 1 season turnaround


Google also tells me the organization retooled in 2017, so maybe it was pretty fast.
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Post#347 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:08 pm

For those who are worried about Rodgers feelings this was a few days before the draft.

TMZ Sports: “What would you tell Aaron if it does happen, if they do draft a quarterback?”

Favre: “You gotta just keep doing what you’re doing. And, Aaron and I watched a lot of extra film together, I had no problems giving him any insight that he asked for if I could, and I think Aaron will do that too.

“Look, no one’s going to replace Aaron unless Aaron chooses to be replaced. There’s no worry for him that he’s going to be ousted. He’s too good of a player.

“It’s funny because Aaron and I were talking about it last year, how he gets how I was when he came in. Because now he’s at that age that I was when he came in, and so it’s getting about time that you start looking at drafting a guy or picking someone up in free agency.

“Not that we think Aaron is at the end of his road, I think he’s got many good years barring injury ahead of him. But, you do have to start grooming the next guy. And, Aaron gets it.”
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Post#348 » by H2tObes » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:10 pm

msiris wrote:
H2tObes wrote:
msiris wrote:They were bad the year before and then they go to the SB. Thats pretty fast.

What?

49ERS RECORD
2014: 8-8
2015: 5-11
2016: 2-14
2017: 6-10
2018: 4-12
2019: 13-3

You could at least google to avoid spouting nonsense. That's a rebuild, not a 1 season turnaround
How many teams go from 4-12 to the SB the next year? So basically they turned it around in one year.

That's not how it works, you're just ignoring all the young talent they accumulated while they were bad for a long time. When enough young talent was accumulated they made their move
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Post#349 » by msiris » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:14 pm

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msiris wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
I didn't see any mocks with him at #30, but I saw a lot in the top twenty.
Because pretty much everyone thought the Pats were going to take him.


Or the Saints, Raiders, and Phins if they didn't take a QB at five.
I did not see any expert mocks with those teams taking Love. Now we can debate who the expert mockers are. :D Hopefully we can get help the rest of the draft. :D
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Post#350 » by chuckleslove » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:27 pm

books wrote:Question: would you be feeling better, or the same, about drafting Love if GB had drafted Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins or Simmons last year at #12?


I like the pick so personally no. I also think anyone else who says it would is lying because most of the criticism is people thinking we are one 1st round pick from winning it all and having one of those players wouldn't have changed that mindset. They would still want us to be in win now mode.
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Post#351 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:36 pm

TheProdigy wrote:I am beyond pissed about this pick. That being said, if I see any Packer fans harassing Jordan Love like they did with Rodgers, I'm going to plant my foot straight up their back side. No place for that.


God that was an embarrassing time for Packer Nation. Lotta folks lucky twitter didn't exist back then.
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Post#352 » by chuckleslove » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:45 pm

I just finished getting caught up from where I was last night before bed. Can't believe someone said this could go down as the second worst pick in franchise history behind Mandarich. Holy hyperbole. We went in to the draft with pick #30. We gave up that and a 4th. We could draft two guys who never played a snap with those 2 picks and they would probably at worst be about the 10th worst draft in franchise history just because of how late those picks are. Harrell, Sherrod, half of our first round picks in the last decade are arguably worse than anything we could do with pick 30 even if that pick never does anything.
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Post#353 » by Treebeard » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:48 pm

If scheduled practices and workouts are off for a while, can the Packers still have a coach or a hired "QB Whisperer" to workout individually with Love? I imagine thee are rules from the League and the Players Association about what can and can't be done.
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Post#354 » by chuckleslove » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:57 pm

Treebeard wrote:If scheduled practices and workouts are off for a while, can the Packers still have a coach or a hired "QB Whisperer" to workout individually with Love? I imagine thee are rules from the League and the Players Association about what can and can't be done.


I think they have added exceptions for digital off season coaching meetings and such but I don't think they can have in person anything right now. Facilities are closed and obviously travel is not advised for anyone.

I'm sure over the next couple of months things will change several times.
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Post#355 » by giraldo5 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:06 pm

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I think you guys are overestimating the value of that fourth round pick. Pick 30 is worth 620 points and our fourth was worth something like 40 points...that gets you to 660 points-ish which is the 28th pick in the draft per this trade value chart.

The WR we wanted would have at least cost us our 3rd which would have got us that New Orleans pick which Brandon Aiyuk would have been available.



I'll agree with this...giving up a third in a WR deep draft is a little much as well. I have little problem burning a 4th, though it may have been unnecessary.

Where I have an issue is BG saying we were looking to trade down when our (presumably) receiver wasn't there and then in effect saying Love is so good we need to trade up and get him.

Well if you really believe he's that good don't tell me the secondary plan being grab a generational talent at QB. That should be your first plan if you really think so.

Just inconsistent reasoning. People on this board can't say he's the next Rodgers in BG's mind when he wasn't even the primary plan.


Do you think it was the Packers plan all along to have Rodgers fall into their laps? Of course not. When he became available they grabbed him.


They were hoping to trade the pick. They waited for someone to give them an offer and nothing ever came.
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Post#356 » by Profound23 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:09 pm

MAC1987 wrote:Perfect comment I want to quote.

If this doesn't pan out and Love is a bust, every GB owner and fan should be calling for Murphy Gute and Lafleur all being fired.

Fair or foul?

In my opinion fair. This is a risky move and has to work out. This is a long term move when maybe they should be more focused on now....i.e get AROD some weapons.
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Foul....what if the rest of the draft works out similar to last year? Love stinks but the next 2-3 picks are impact players.

What if next year's draft class is gang busters and he signs smart free agents similar to Preston/Z?

Now if Love sucks, the rest of this draft is trash, we miss out on free agents, next year's draft also sucks then yeah nobody will have to worry because they will all be fired soon enough.

If we just drafted our third HOF QB in a row (Favre, Rodgers, Love) everyone will overlook any other issues though.
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Post#357 » by Profound23 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:10 pm

I seriously can't believe the biggest issue is "we traded a 4th." WTF? I feel like I am taking crazy pills.
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Post#358 » by MoMM » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:14 pm

I have no problem about trading a late 4th round to jump from #30 to #26, but my problem is drafting a young QB instead of a player that can be useful next season.

And it's not only that, but drafting a successor for Rodgers next year or in 2 years would be better in terms of cap as well, because we would get 2 extra years with a starting QB on a rookie deal.
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Post#359 » by sdn40 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:23 pm

chuckleslove wrote:
books wrote:Question: would you be feeling better, or the same, about drafting Love if GB had drafted Dexter Lawrence or Christian Wilkins or Simmons last year at #12?


I like the pick so personally no. I also think anyone else who says it would is lying because most of the criticism is people thinking we are one 1st round pick from winning it all and having one of those players wouldn't have changed that mindset. They would still want us to be in win now mode.


As opposed to ? Lose now mode ? I choose win now.
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Post#360 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:25 pm

Wondering out loud: if you put Tua on Utah St and Jordan on Bama, where do each get drafted?
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