2020 NFL DRAFT OFFICIAL thread

[CrimsonCrew]

So they have no picks today do they?

No picks until the fifth round or something like that?

Yep. They have a single fifth round pick, and then two picks in the early 200s. Sweet.

[CrimsonCrew]

Last year everyone was pissed we didn't take DBs because they were so bad the year prior and we see how that turned out.
We can disagree with the picks but there is no reason to come after the player or give out dumbass nickname like Ai-Yuck. I trust Kyle and what he wants for his offense, everything I have seen is Aiyuk fits perfectly with our scheme and he is very similar to Sanders.

We were right to be pissed that they didn't take any DBs last year. We got incredibly lucky with health in our backfield, as Ward and Tartt bucked tradition and stayed mostly healthy, and none of our CBs other than Verrett suffered serious injuries. Even so, it's easy to argue that our DBs were the weak link on our D, and were the area that really collapsed on defense in the SB. Sherman got beaten badly. Moseley got beaten badly on arguably the most important play of the game. Moore committed a crucial PI in the endzone. I'm not saying we win that game with a CB taken in the third or fourth round, but I'd feel a hell of a lot better about our depth if we had. And I don't think it would have been a shock for that player to beat out Moseley. We aren't going to add any meaningful picks to that position this offseason, either. Next year, DB and OT could be a major problem. I wish I shared the FO's unbridled optimism.

[CrimsonCrew]

Back to the distribution of our picks under this FO, not only have half of our picks in the first four rounds gone toward two position groups, six of eight first and second round picks have been either DL or WRs. You hollow out your other position groups when you devote so many resources to the same positions. DB is the most stark example, but interior OL has been a recurring problem and also contributed to our SB loss.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Re-reading my post, it comes off as more negative than I intended. I don't think his 4.5 is indicative, and I think he should be a good fit for our team. My bigger issue is how we're coming out of this round overall, and the fact that we only have three picks remaining. I'm cautiously optimistic about Aiyuk.

Also, I may have been too hard on Shanahan's scouting of WRs last night. Pettis is a headcase, but he can do what Shanahan thought he could on the field. That's more on the GM to find out than on the HC IMO.

I disagree with this viewpoint! He went on record saying that Ai-Yuck was his #1 rated receiver in this year’s class. Ahead of Ruggs, CeeDee Lamb, and Jerry Jeudy. That’s utterly ridiculous and sad to hear / witness. He’s stubborn and stuck on his ways...!

Shanahan has a huge influence on John Lynch in regard to player evaluations—type of receivers he wants based on his scheme. A GM de facto per se.

This is a fans perspective though. As a coach and a play caller, you get the guys that you want for your system and let the others keep their opinions.

The NFL simply did not view Lamb as the type of player that fans did as evidenced by his fall. I’ve seen Thats GM’s have commented on that this year saying just how wrong the boards and mock drafts were this year.

So are you agreeing that Aiyuk is better than Henry Ruggs, and the other 2 / 3 receivers that got drafted ahead of him? Brandon is not a bigger playmaker than Ruggs. Ruggs would’ve opened things up for Deebo and Kittle in so many ways. Anything that Aiyuk can do so can Ruggs, but better. Just like last season, anything that Deebo can do so can A.J. Brown, but better.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

What was Jerry Rice's 40 time?

Michael Irvin kept harping on the fact that Jeudy and Lamb and Jefferson too scored most of their TDs from the slot.

So maybe Kyle was looking for pure outside WR, not a slot guy?

I don't think anyone is solely focusing on Aiyuk's 40 time. His game speed isn't particularly fast either. It's now slow; it's just not that fast.

Actually, it's the other way around. Scouting reports state that Aiyuk's game speed is faster than his 40 time. With some guys, Jerry Rice being the obvious example from the Niners, they tend to run faster with a ball in their hands and a DB chasing them than when they just line up to run a 40-yard dash. Scouts looking at his game film say he is fast; his 40 time says he isn't slow but not particularly fast.

Jealan Reagor too. He plays much faster than he was timed.

[Dodub]

Louis Riddick said that we have the best 1st round. Another guy was going to pick us too but chose the Vikings

[CrimsonCrew]

Bingo, I think you're putting too much stock in what Shanahan says. Coaches and GMs always say that the guy they took was the top of their board, that they can't believe they got him, etc., etc. I'm not saying it's always a lie, but it certainly isn't always true, either. Ruggs was never a possibility for us, so we have no idea how Shanahan viewed him.

[NinerSickness]

I'm glad sickness settled in with the ai-yuck stuff, we saw what happened with nick the disappointment bosa. It's a good omen.

Nick Bosa certainly surpassed my expectations, but I did say I thought he'd be better than Joey.

Again, I don't think Aiyuk will be a bad or even average WR. I think he'll be good. But I'm still probably gonna be pissed about the players who went after him.

It's the exact same scenario with Deebo. He's a good player, but the Niners would've been much better off with Greedy Williams. They could've found a comparable receiver in FA, but there was no way of getting a decent CB without paying out the nose (which they weren't gonna do). One more decent, starting CB was all the defense was missing in the SB.

[Pattersonca65]

So they have no picks today do they?

No picks until the fifth round or something like that?

Yep. They have a single fifth round pick, and then two picks in the early 200s. Sweet.

I didn't mind the selections but I hated that they gave away draft picks to move up to 25

[CrimsonCrew]

I'm glad sickness settled in with the ai-yuck stuff, we saw what happened with nick the disappointment bosa. It's a good omen.

Nick Bosa certainly surpassed my expectations, but I did say I thought he'd be better than Joey.

Again, I don't think Aiyuk will be a bad or even average WR. I think he'll be good. But I'm still probably gonna be pissed about the players who went after him.

Yeah, it's Deebo all over again. Sure, Samuel is a nice player. But we could have taken him 15 picks later, or ended up with a very similar, but arguably better, guy in Brown. Except this time we traded up. And we didn't have to. I get the concern about the Packers taking him, but they weren't going to (I would be extremely surprised if any team would pass on what they deem a first round QB for any WR). I can't see the Hawks taking him with Lockett and Metcalf on the roster. The Ravens were relatively unlikely to go WR. WR is way down on the Titans' list of needs. And WR might be Miami's best position - granted that isn't saying much. In all likelihood he was going to fall, just as, in all likelihood, Samuel would have been there if we had traded back.

[I_am_1z]

The only thing saving this pick for me is Steve Smith Sr's endorsement otherwise, you cannot convince me that passing on the next Desean Jackson was a good idea.

[GS Warriors 1]

Less than 2 hours until Day 2 kicks off. Difficult to see the 49ers giving away future draft capital for a pick today, though it's always possible. It's why I will continue to watch the draft. You just never know until it happens.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Louis Riddick said that we have the best 1st round. Another guy was going to pick us too but chose the Vikings

Hey Dub, hope all is well. How are you holding up with this social distancing? Be safe man.

Steve Mariucci also said the same thing. But I disagree. Miami landing Tua without having to give up a pick has to be the winner here. Over a decade ago the Cowboys got lucky in landing Dez Bryant and we slid a bit. History has repeated itself for them this year in regard to the WR position. Chase Young joining that young DLine group in the nation’s capital is Godsend. I mean there’s at least 5 other teams that I think managed the first round better than we did.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Bingo, I think you're putting too much stock in what Shanahan says. Coaches and GMs always say that the guy they took was the top of their board, that they can't believe they got him, etc., etc. I'm not saying it's always a lie, but it certainly isn't always true, either. Ruggs was never a possibility for us, so we have no idea how Shanahan viewed him.

Hey Crims. Hope all is well with you and the fam. Stay safe.

Yeah, I sorta agree with how coaches tend to fabricate things after the fact. However, history (Shanny’s in particular) has shown that his ratings of players is concerning. Pettis > Kirk; Deebo > A.J. Brown. There may be a kernel of truth to his statement in regard to his player evaluations (WRs).

[Samurai]

Less than 2 hours until Day 2 kicks off. Difficult to see the 49ers giving away future draft capital for a pick today, though it's always possible. It's why I will continue to watch the draft. You just never know until it happens.

Still holding out hope that we get very lucky and someone gives us a pick for Goodwin or Breida. Maybe throw Richie James in as a bonus gift.

[GS Warriors 1]

Goodwin is on the move, for sure. Seems like a Day 3 pick is more probable.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

I'm glad sickness settled in with the ai-yuck stuff, we saw what happened with nick the disappointment bosa. It's a good omen.

Nick Bosa certainly surpassed my expectations, but I did say I thought he'd be better than Joey.

Again, I don't think [b]Aiyuk will be a bad or even average WR. I think he'll be good. But I'm still probably gonna be pissed about the players who went after him.

Well said Sick! I also think that he’s going to shine in Shanny’s offense. Same reason why Raheem Mostert is now a stud player in the league, Aiyuk will also shine when he picks up the offense. But IMO that doesn’t negate the fact that I believe Laviska Shenault is a better player than he is. Trevon Diggs, Prince Tega, and Ezra Cleveland are still out there for crying out loud. The 4th round we gave up for Aiyuk could have been used in a potential trade for Leonard Fournette (a 4th round pick and Tevin Coleman for Fournette).

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

So they have no picks today do they?

No picks until the fifth round or something like that?

Yep. They have a single fifth round pick, and then two picks in the early 200s. Sweet.

I didn't mind the selections but I hated that they gave away draft picks to move up to 25

It was a very expensive move. That’s a lot to give up IMO.

[CrimsonCrew]

Bingo, I think you're putting too much stock in what Shanahan says. Coaches and GMs always say that the guy they took was the top of their board, that they can't believe they got him, etc., etc. I'm not saying it's always a lie, but it certainly isn't always true, either. Ruggs was never a possibility for us, so we have no idea how Shanahan viewed him.

Hey Crims. Hope all is well with you and the fam. Stay safe.

Yeah, I sorta agree with how coaches tend to fabricate things after the fact. However, history (Shanny’s in particular) has shown that his ratings of players is concerning. Pettis > Kirk; Deebo > A.J. Brown. There may be a kernel of truth to his statement in regard to his player evaluations (WRs).

We're doing as well as can be expected. Got three little ones at home now, including one who arrived in late February, so it's been a handful, but we're managing. Hope you're doing well too.

Re: the receivers, I think there's a solid argument that Pettis has as much or more talent than Kirk on the field. His issues lie elsewhere, though they may be such that we never get to see him at his best on the field. And he couldn't catch a cold early last year once he got into his head. Samuel and Brown is too close to call right now IMO. They're very similar guys, but I think Samuel has a little more wiggle and Brown has a little more straight-line explosiveness. Samuel probably is the better fit in Shanahan's offense, but we'll see on that one. I think that's nit-picking, though, when both guys look like good players.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Bingo, I think you're putting too much stock in what Shanahan says. Coaches and GMs always say that the guy they took was the top of their board, that they can't believe they got him, etc., etc. I'm not saying it's always a lie, but it certainly isn't always true, either. Ruggs was never a possibility for us, so we have no idea how Shanahan viewed him.

Hey Crims. Hope all is well with you and the fam. Stay safe.

Yeah, I sorta agree with how coaches tend to fabricate things after the fact. However, history (Shanny’s in particular) has shown that his ratings of players is concerning. Pettis > Kirk; Deebo > A.J. Brown. There may be a kernel of truth to his statement in regard to his player evaluations (WRs).

We're doing as well as can be expected. Got three little ones at home now, including one who arrived in late February, so it's been a handful, but we're managing. Hope you're doing well too.

Oh wow! Congratulations brother. Blessings!!