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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1281 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:12 am

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He will easily make your team better


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Post#1283 » by Drazen8 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:06 pm

These are the players I had interest in when shtf.
Expecting them to keep the three picks.
Unfortunately we are probably in a place where 2 of them should be used on pg.

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Johnson Louisville, staying in school, not sure who else is.
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Coleman Texas
Pritchard
Lee

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Tillie
Neismith Vanderbilt
Hinton Houston
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Kessler Edwards Pepperdine
Agbaji Kansas
Moore Duke
Wesson
Skylar Chavez Peperdine
Lindy Waters III
Nnaji Arizona
Mckormick Kansas
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Richards Kentucky
D.J. Jefferies
Marshall Xavier
Hughes Syracuse
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1284 » by blanko » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:26 pm

Imho a 6'6 isiah Thomas would be the best ever over a 6'6 iverson.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1285 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:29 pm

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Ian Begley has another mailbag article today and when the draft was brought up he mentioned Kira Lewis again someone the Knicks liked. That’s the second article from the Knicks beat that has mentioned him. That’s a lot smoke around him to think that the Knicks aren’t interested in him. Don’t be shocked if he works his way into the top 10. The only knock on him is his slight frame.


Smoke screen. Ain't no 165 lbs. gnat playing for the Knicks next season.


He is 6’3” I know as a non athlete it’s easy to gain 20 pounds :lol: but it could be tough for someone 18. Fox is 185 and at minimum he needs to get to at least there weight wise. I bet you if he went to UK instead of Alabama there would be more lottery talk instead of late first.
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Post#1286 » by robillionaire » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:38 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Ian Begley has another mailbag article today and when the draft was brought up he mentioned Kira Lewis again someone the Knicks liked. That’s the second article from the Knicks beat that has mentioned him. That’s a lot smoke around him to think that the Knicks aren’t interested in him. Don’t be shocked if he works his way into the top 10. The only knock on him is his slight frame.


Smoke screen. Ain't no 165 lbs. gnat playing for the Knicks next season.


He is 6’3” I know as a non athlete it’s easy to gain 20 pounds :lol: but it could be tough for someone 18. Fox is 185 and at minimum he needs to get to at least there weight wise. I bet you if he went to UK instead of Alabama there would be more lottery talk instead of late first.


Pretty recently the PG who he took over for at alabama Collin Sexton went 8th over SGA who went to UK and was selected 11th so I hesitate to believe that
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Post#1287 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:43 pm

He should be our priority with our late first rounder
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Post#1288 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:22 pm

I see Kira as more of a really good pg off the bench. I like the energy he plays with, but needs some work with his facilitating, strength and overall feel for the game. I dont really see a super high ceiling. He is still pretty young so you never know. Think it would be a big reach to take him with our lottery pick and he probably wont be there at #27 so unless we trade he is probably not in our range
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1289 » by WargamesX » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:56 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:I see Kira as more of a really good pg off the bench. I like the energy he plays with, but needs some work with his facilitating, strength and overall feel for the game. I dont really see a super high ceiling. He is still pretty young so you never know. Think it would be a big reach to take him with our lottery pick and he probably wont be there at #27 so unless we trade he is probably not in our range


A lot of the rumors we are hearing makes me think the knicks want to move up in the draft probably by consolidating picks. Which makes sense since we already have young players now who can’t get playing time to develop (iggy, Trier, Dotson, and Knox). I also keep saying this but knicks should look to move that Mavs 2023 pick. The 1-10 protection on it limits its value. it’s valuable as a pick but it’s a more valuable as a trade chip.

I think the wolves at #16 and Celtics at #17 might be willing to trade down. Wolves to lower their rookie salary, Celtics to swap a 2020 pick for the future pick because they are always active in collecting future picks. Celtics probably wouldn’t event want our second rounder because they really have to many picks for their roster and are slotted to draft 4 players this year already.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1290 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:00 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:He should be our priority with our late first rounder
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Post#1291 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:07 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Ian Begley has another mailbag article today and when the draft was brought up he mentioned Kira Lewis again someone the Knicks liked. That’s the second article from the Knicks beat that has mentioned him. That’s a lot smoke around him to think that the Knicks aren’t interested in him. Don’t be shocked if he works his way into the top 10. The only knock on him is his slight frame.


Smoke screen. Ain't no 165 lbs. gnat playing for the Knicks next season.


He is 6’3” I know as a non athlete it’s easy to gain 20 pounds :lol: but it could be tough for someone 18. Fox is 185 and at minimum he needs to get to at least there weight wise. I bet you if he went to UK instead of Alabama there would be more lottery talk instead of late first.


LOL

I remember what’s it was like trying to put weight in my skinny frame. Especially if you have a high metabolism. I drank all these protein shakes, ate steaks and pasta and lifted weight.

Can Lewis out on 10-15 lbs of armor on his body, probably. But also, that’s probably about it. He would end up being a change of pace bench piece at best.
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Post#1292 » by robillionaire » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:21 pm

I would absolutely not trade up from 27 to mid lotto, someone good will be there at 27 and 38 anyway. For those saying trade up what exactly are you suggesting giving up here
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Post#1293 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:31 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:I see Kira as more of a really good pg off the bench. I like the energy he plays with, but needs some work with his facilitating, strength and overall feel for the game. I dont really see a super high ceiling. He is still pretty young so you never know. Think it would be a big reach to take him with our lottery pick and he probably wont be there at #27 so unless we trade he is probably not in our range


A lot of the rumors we are hearing makes me think the knicks want to move up in the draft probably by consolidating picks. Which makes sense since we already have young players now who can’t get playing time to develop (iggy, Trier, Dotson, and Knox). I also keep saying this but knicks should look to move that Mavs 2023 pick. The 1-10 protection on it limits its value. it’s valuable as a pick but it’s a more valuable as a trade chip.

I think the wolves at #16 and Celtics at #17 might be willing to trade down. Wolves to lower their rookie salary, Celtics to swap a 2020 pick for the future pick because they are always active in collecting future picks. Celtics probably wouldn’t event want our second rounder because they really have to many picks for their roster and are slotted to draft 4 players this year already.


Is there any legit rumors? It sounds more like reporters are just giving their opinion.
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Post#1294 » by robillionaire » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:39 pm

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WargamesX wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:I see Kira as more of a really good pg off the bench. I like the energy he plays with, but needs some work with his facilitating, strength and overall feel for the game. I dont really see a super high ceiling. He is still pretty young so you never know. Think it would be a big reach to take him with our lottery pick and he probably wont be there at #27 so unless we trade he is probably not in our range


A lot of the rumors we are hearing makes me think the knicks want to move up in the draft probably by consolidating picks. Which makes sense since we already have young players now who can’t get playing time to develop (iggy, Trier, Dotson, and Knox). I also keep saying this but knicks should look to move that Mavs 2023 pick. The 1-10 protection on it limits its value. it’s valuable as a pick but it’s a more valuable as a trade chip.

I think the wolves at #16 and Celtics at #17 might be willing to trade down. Wolves to lower their rookie salary, Celtics to swap a 2020 pick for the future pick because they are always active in collecting future picks. Celtics probably wouldn’t event want our second rounder because they really have to many picks for their roster and are slotted to draft 4 players this year already.


Is there any legit rumors? It sounds more like reporters are just giving their opinion.


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Post#1297 » by god shammgod » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:12 pm

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with all the uncertainty now, it's the smart choice for most of these kids. take the money. it doesn't seem like there will be any events with large groups of people in attendance for a long while. might not be until sometime later in 2021.
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Post#1298 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:18 pm

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with all the uncertainty now, it's the smart choice for most of these kids. take the money. it doesn't seem like there will be any events with large groups of people in attendance for a long while. might not be until sometime in 2021.


yeah tough to pass on that kind of money if its being offered. And if these kids are getting offered the safety of getting paid college in the future if they want then its a no brainer.

Even if these kids suffer a career ending injury they have the backup plan to go to college for free paid by the g-league.

probably will be easier for scouting too because in college you play like 25-30 games. The g-league has a 50 game season. You basically get double tape with more access vs better competition (grown men)
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Post#1299 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:39 pm

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with all the uncertainty now, it's the smart choice for most of these kids. take the money. it doesn't seem like there will be any events with large groups of people in attendance for a long while. might not be until sometime in 2021.


yeah tough to pass on that kind of money if its being offered. And if these kids are getting offered the safety of getting paid college in the future if they want then its a no brainer.

Even if these kids suffer a career ending injury they have the backup plan to go to college for free paid by the g-league.

probably will be easier for scouting too because in college you play like 25-30 games. The g-league has a 50 game season. You basically get double tape with more access vs better competition (grown men)


between now and 2022, i expect a lot of star boys to stay close and get paid. there's a risk of getting exposed playing against wiser more mature players. but if you're making decent money off the bat, that makes sense.

i know i'd rather go this route than go to a college i only intend to attend for one year.
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Post#1300 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:44 pm

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with all the uncertainty now, it's the smart choice for most of these kids. take the money. it doesn't seem like there will be any events with large groups of people in attendance for a long while. might not be until sometime in 2021.


yeah tough to pass on that kind of money if its being offered. And if these kids are getting offered the safety of getting paid college in the future if they want then its a no brainer.

Even if these kids suffer a career ending injury they have the backup plan to go to college for free paid by the g-league.

probably will be easier for scouting too because in college you play like 25-30 games. The g-league has a 50 game season. You basically get double tape with more access vs better competition (grown men)


between now and 2022, i expect a lot of star boys to stay close and get paid. there's a risk of getting exposed playing against wiser more mature players. but if you're making decent money off the bat, that makes sense.

i know i'd rather go this route than go to a college i only intend to attend for one year.


for the super talented players that were only going to stay in college for 1 year this make complete sense. The only reason this doesn't work out if the young guys get swallowed up in the g-league and they hurt there draft stock.

I would rather these guys get evenly distributed around the g-league. I think it would better suit them if they all were on different teams then having one really young team because it would better simulate the mix of an NBA roster.

but beggers can't be choosers. The one and done college player was a joke.
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