OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe

[HarthorneWingo]

Getting back to more important shyt. Apparently, it's all about "growth" and not just "climate change."

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[thebuzzardman]

Maaan, there are countless declassified documents that prove previous conspiracies. I believe in science, but if you think the world is squeaky clean and that governments or branches of, don’t commit heinous acts even against its own citizens, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you. I’m not saying 100% this virus is a conspiracy, but some things definitely are seeming a little sketchy to me, and there are millions who feel the same based on facts which start to make you raise questions on “conspiracy theories”.

Proves my point. It's the CIA. J. Edgar Hoover HATED the CIA. Therefore, I am right.

I, for one, welcome the plan to shape the minds of the US populace for the long war with China. Long overdue. Cold war? 40 years? Pfft. War on Terror, 20 years? Too small. Cold War with China? Definitely could go for 100+ years. I mean, it already started, lets get this in high gear.

Vote against Trump, try diplomacy. It's always worth a try.

As long as the military industrial spy complex is humming, I'm good.

[spree8]

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[thebuzzardman]

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Anybody wanna debate this highly credentialed doc?

A chelation therapy osteopath? Hokay.

[spree8]

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A chelation therapy osteopath? Hokay.

C’mon. He’s cited as one of the top 50 doctors in the country.



What are yours?

[SelbyCobra]

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Anybody wanna debate this highly credentialed doc?

A chelation therapy osteopath? Hokay.

This guy sounds like he's perfect for Trump's COVID response team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

He has been criticized for his use of chelation,[1] and for his use of intravenous hydrogen peroxide to treat cancer.

[EricAnderson]

Am I the only one who’s staying away from the news? Wheter it’s online articles or tv

Not because I think there lying but because it’s just all negative and not good for your mental health.

There’s so much we still don’t know and not every info that comes out is 100 percent accurate because of that so I don’t see the point in reading every article that has a new thing about what the corona virus might do to you worst case scenario..

[movingon]

No, I'm not mad.
You asked to be educated, so here you go:

The electromagnetic radiation from 5G is in the Gigahertz range.
To get the wavelength, divide the speed of light by the frequency:
3e8 [m /s ] / 1e9 [1 /s]
That's millimeter range, around 0.3 mm (order of magnitude)
It's less energetic than visible light which is in the micron range.
So if you're not afraid of being ionized by visible light, millimeter wave is ok.

Feel better?

What you did there is display arrogance. Ok, educate us. Where did this virus come from?

All you do is display ignorance, pushing conspiracy theories.
The virus is a natural phenomenon. Viruses mutate. That happens when they replicate.
This we cannot control, but we can do our best to contain and mitigate it.
That is if people start believing in science, participate in vaccination, and stop looking for scapegoats.
The disinformation you're propagating is dangerous (and ridiculously stupid).
Arrogance is floating conspiracy theories when you don't know the first thing about science.
That's arrogance.

You mad?

[Jalen Bluntson]

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I read he killed people with chelation therapy and lost his license 20 years ago. So...he may have an axe to grind. I haven't looked into any of this but...that could be a logical explanation if true. I didn't watch the video either.

[spree8]

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I read he killed people with chelation therapy and lost his license 20 years ago. So...he may have an axe to grind. I haven't looked into any of this but...that could be a logical explanation if true. I didn't watch the video either.

Yea... it’s not lol.

[spree8]

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Anybody wanna debate this highly credentialed doc?

A chelation therapy osteopath? Hokay.

This guy sounds like he's perfect for Trump's COVID response team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

He has been criticized for his use of chelation,[1] and for his use of intravenous hydrogen peroxide to treat cancer.

https://www.healthline.com/health/hydrogen-peroxide-cancer

There have been studies for decades about hydrogen peroxide to treat cancer dude. You know your body produces it naturally right? In theory, it made sense, but when applied, it didn’t have the desired effects... the guy is a part of a research clinic.. that’s what they do. As far as chelation.. it’s approved for lead poisoning you know... he’s trying to use it for other ailments too. These things don’t make you totally discredited.

Like I said in the other thread, guy was a surgeon and director of emergency medicine in the Army and touted as a top 50 doctor in the nation. Not just anyone can amount to that.

[SelbyCobra]

A chelation therapy osteopath? Hokay.

This guy sounds like he's perfect for Trump's COVID response team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

He has been criticized for his use of chelation,[1] and for his use of intravenous hydrogen peroxide to treat cancer.

https://www.healthline.com/health/hydrogen-peroxide-cancer

There have been studies for decades about hydrogen peroxide to treat cancer dude. You know your body produces it naturally right? In theory, it made sense, but when applied, it didn’t have the desired effects... the guy is a part of a research clinic.. that’s what they do. As far as chelation.. it’s approved for lead poisoning you know... he’s trying to use it for other ailments too. These things don’t make you totally discredited.

Like I said in the other thread, guy was a surgeon and director of emergency medicine in the Army and touted as a top 50 doctor in the nation. Not just anyone can amount to that.

Sure anyone can amount to being named a top 50 doctor in the nation like Buttar - he gave himself the accolade.

https://skepacabra.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/is-dr-buttar-one-of-the-top-50-doctors-in-the-us/

What’s the source of this information? According to this site:

“SOURCE The Center for Advanced Medicine and Clinical Research”

Could that be the same Center for Advanced Medicine and Clinical Research found at drbuttar.com in which Dr. Buttar serves as “Medical Director/CMO”? Why yes it is. Imagine that.

So who are these sources that dubbed as one of the top 50 doctors in the country this discredited doctor who’s kept away from from treating children or cancer patients for their own safety?

Apparently the only one that seems to be making this claim is Buttar himself and his employees.

There are many takedowns of this piece of sh*t quack all over the internet, with highly detailed and sourced evidence - including from those who participated in his trial before the North Carolina Board of Medical Examiners which resulted in his practice being restricted from treating any children or cancer patients for several years.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-north-carolina-board-of-medical-examiners-dr-rashid-buttar-and-protecting-the-public-from-practitioners-of-non-science-based-medicine/

I understand and accept that there are different ways at coming at medical problems, often times outside of the western medicine arena - there are incredible ancient techniques, homeopathic ideologies, and methods of using the mind to heal which function outside of Big Pharma's hypnotic influence. Buttar has nothing to do with them though. He is a horrible person who is a proven liar about everything from his personal accomplishments to the medical advice he dispenses, which he charges hopeful people with their lives on the line astronomical amounts for. It's all right there for anyone in the public to see.

[spree8]

This guy sounds like he's perfect for Trump's COVID response team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

https://www.healthline.com/health/hydrogen-peroxide-cancer

There have been studies for decades about hydrogen peroxide to treat cancer dude. You know your body produces it naturally right? In theory, it made sense, but when applied, it didn’t have the desired effects... the guy is a part of a research clinic.. that’s what they do. As far as chelation.. it’s approved for lead poisoning you know... he’s trying to use it for other ailments too. These things don’t make you totally discredited.

Like I said in the other thread, guy was a surgeon and director of emergency medicine in the Army and touted as a top 50 doctor in the nation. Not just anyone can amount to that.

Sure anyone can amount to being named a top 50 doctor in the nation like Buttar - he gave himself the accolade.

https://skepacabra.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/is-dr-buttar-one-of-the-top-50-doctors-in-the-us/

What’s the source of this information? According to this site:

“SOURCE The Center for Advanced Medicine and Clinical Research”

Could that be the same Center for Advanced Medicine and Clinical Research found at drbuttar.com in which Dr. Buttar serves as “Medical Director/CMO”? Why yes it is. Imagine that.

So who are these sources that dubbed as one of the top 50 doctors in the country this discredited doctor who’s kept away from from treating children or cancer patients for their own safety?

Apparently the only one that seems to be making this claim is Buttar himself and his employees.

There are many takedowns of this piece of sh*t quack all over the internet, with highly detailed and sourced evidence - including from those who participated in his trial before the North Carolina Board of Medical Examiners which resulted in his practice being restricted from treating any children or cancer patients for several years.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-north-carolina-board-of-medical-examiners-dr-rashid-buttar-and-protecting-the-public-from-practitioners-of-non-science-based-medicine/

I understand and accept that there are different ways at coming at medical problems, often times outside of the western medicine arena - there are incredible ancient techniques, homeopathic ideologies, and methods of using the mind to heal which function outside of Big Pharma's hypnotic influence. Buttar has nothing to do with them though. He is a horrible person who is a proven liar about everything from his personal accomplishments to the medical advice he dispenses, which he charges hopeful people with their lives on the line astronomical amounts for. It's all right there for anyone in the public to see.

Based on what I’ve read your take seems to be a bit extreme. The NC board tried to shut him down completely but couldn’t. The complaints were of people who were charged a lot of money for treatments that weren’t successful (neither were their other approved treatments... but that’s ok?)

So his company listed that Healthy Directions, Phillips Publishing and top cardiologist Dr. Stephen Sinatra listed him as a top 50 doctor... does that mean that they didn’t just because he listed it on his site? His employee was the blog’s moderator that responded to the guy who’s link you posted. That doesn’t mean they didn’t.

You seem to have a lot of animosity towards him. I really don’t care as much as you do, but you’re trying really hard to discredit him.. and it’s a bit of a reach.

I don’t see how you can be a quack as a surgeon/director of emergency medicine for the military who is part of a research clinic trying treatments on patients that have been studied for decades. You know doctors are sued all the damn time right? But just because his treatments were costly just like pretty much every treatment available, and didn’t work... also like many treatments available, you’re labeling him a quack. Sorry but I’m not buying it.

You know, the doctor who discovered that simply washing your hands before delivering babies to significantly decrease the insanely high mortality rate, was ostracized by the medical community too.. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/ignaz-semmelweis-doctor-prescribed-hand-washing

Just goes to show you that when it comes to medicine... nothing is ever that cut n dry.
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[BLACKFEET 2010]

Doctors worth their weight in salt do not criticize other doctors via social media.

[HarthorneWingo]

Doctors worth their weight in salt do not criticize other doctors via social media.

Right. They talk about the science and what the data reveals.

[spree8]

Doctors worth their weight in salt do not criticize other doctors via social media.

Right. They talk about the science and what the data reveals.

Has he not done that? And Blackfeet’s take is an opinion, not fact. That’s how we decide who is knowledgeable and who isn’t now?

Kinda crazy how I have to defend him like this lol... I really don’t care to since I don’t agree with everything he says 100%. My thing is that he’s pretty accomplished in medicine (more so than anyone on this forum) and might know a thing or two about the subject, yet people are trying to discredit him because he had law suits like large numbers of doctors out there, attempted to treat some patients with techniques that didn’t work... also like a large number of doctors out there, and because he criticized other doctors on social media lol... also like a large number of other doctors out there. The push back is amazing.

[SelbyCobra]

Yeah, this guy's case is pretty straight forward. His horrible standing in the medical community is extremely cut and dry, and not because he's brash, obnoxious, or non-conformist, but because of the way he conducts himself as a medical professional and the methods he uses.

[spree8]

Yeah, this guy's case is pretty straight forward. His horrible standing in the medical community is extremely cut and dry, and not because he's brash, obnoxious, or non-conformist, but because of the way he conducts himself as a medical professional and the methods he uses.

Right lol. Ok then let’s talk about the nearly 200 scientists and doctors from around the world who demanded a moratorium on 5G. Let’s talk about all the other whistle blowers then. Do some research. Here’s another doc...

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[Jscratch1200]

Haven't been on this board for a few weeks and realized that it was better that way.

[Rasho Brezec]

Lol @ 5G conspirators.