Packers 2020 Offseason Thread - Packers Talking Extension with Aaron Jones

[M-C-G]

Like it or not, the writing is on the wall for Rodgers and this is the beginning of the end. I don’t see Love as a great prospect and don’t want to commit to him as some sort of heir apparent. It’s clear the FO wants their job security pushed out a few years before forcing Rodgers out, they intend to waste the next couple years then get a few more as we wait for their vision to turn out. They should all be fired.

Rodgers is the QB for 2020 and 2021 and probably 2022.

Love is going to be sitting for 3 seasons unless Rodgers dramatically declines, Rodgers gets hurt, and/or the Packers have a catastrophic losing season.

I think this roster is good for 9 wins, maybe 10.

According to spotrac, Rodgers has a potential out after two seasons. I think it is safe to say MLF and Gute plan on Love being the starter in 2023

POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 4 YR, $125,770,000; $17,204,000 DEAD CAP

[WeekapaugGroove]

Like it or not, the writing is on the wall for Rodgers and this is the beginning of the end. I don’t see Love as a great prospect and don’t want to commit to him as some sort of heir apparent. It’s clear the FO wants their job security pushed out a few years before forcing Rodgers out, they intend to waste the next couple years then get a few more as we wait for their vision to turn out. They should all be fired.

Rodgers is the QB for 2020 and 2021 and probably 2022.

Love is going to be sitting for 3 seasons unless Rodgers dramatically declines, Rodgers gets hurt, and/or the Packers have a catastrophic losing season.

I think this roster is good for 9 wins, maybe 10.

According to spotrac, Rodgers has a potential out after two seasons. I think it is safe to say MLF and Gute plan on Love being the starter in 2023

POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 4 YR, $125,770,000; $17,204,000 DEAD CAP

Yeah 2 years is probably the best guess on the timeframe.

But lots can happen that could swing this either way. As I've been saying odds are we'll see Love play as an injury replacement some time in the next two seasons. I feel like with QBs you can tell pretty quickly once they play if you have something with them, not stats so much but a general eye test pass fail. I remember Rodgers coming against the cowboys when favre was knocked out early and you could tell pretty quickly he belonged. On the flip side it was clear really quickly that Hundley didn't have it after a start or two. So there's a very good chance they'll have a strong opinion of Love before they need to make a decision on Aaron.

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[FAH1223]

Rodgers is the QB for 2020 and 2021 and probably 2022.

Love is going to be sitting for 3 seasons unless Rodgers dramatically declines, Rodgers gets hurt, and/or the Packers have a catastrophic losing season.

I think this roster is good for 9 wins, maybe 10.

According to spotrac, Rodgers has a potential out after two seasons. I think it is safe to say MLF and Gute plan on Love being the starter in 2023

POTENTIAL OUT: 2022, 4 YR, $125,770,000; $17,204,000 DEAD CAP

Yeah 2 years is probably the best guess on the timeframe.

But lots can happen that could swing this either way. As I've been saying odds are we'll see Love play as an injury replacement some time in the next two seasons. I feel like with QBs you can tell pretty quickly once they play if you have something with them, not stats so much but a general eye test pass fail. I remember Rodgers coming against the cowboys when favre was knocked out early and you could tell pretty quickly he belonged. On the flip side it was clear really quickly that Hundley didn't have it after a start or two. So there's a very good chance they'll have a strong opinion of Love before they need to make a decision on Aaron.

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When Aaron came in for Favre in 2006 against the Patriots and ended up breaking his foot and not looking good (in a 35-0 shutout), I was really worried.

But he played well in 2007 in preseason and stepped in for that Cowboys game.

[M-C-G]

Yeah that is funny, I didn't even remember him playing a snap before that Dallas game, but yeah, that is when I felt like we had a legit future QB

[FAH1223]

Yeah that is funny, I didn't even remember him playing a snap before that QB game, but yeah, that is when I felt like we had a legit future QB

He played in a blowout loss to the Ravens in 2005 and looked awful too.

[humanrefutation]

That Cowboys game basically made Aaron the clear heir apparent. He was really good in that game.

I still think, on balance, I'd take Rodgers over the vast majority of NFL QBs, simply because his best is just as good as you'll see anywhere else. But he looked absolutely lackadaisical at times last year and missed way too many throws for a QB of his caliber. And honestly, I don't trust him not to suffer another serious, season-altering injury again.

That doesn't mean Love is the guy, though. But my guess is that you're going to see him in action sooner than expected. I don't think he'll sit around for three full seasons on the bench.

[M-C-G]

That Cowboys game basically made Aaron the clear heir apparent. He was really good in that game.

I still think, on balance, I'd take Rodgers over the vast majority of NFL QBs, simply because his best is just as good as you'll see anywhere else. But he looked absolutely lackadaisical at times last year and missed way too many throws for a QB of his caliber. And honestly, I don't trust him not to suffer another serious, season-altering injury again.

That doesn't mean Love is the guy, though. But my guess is that you're going to see him in action sooner than expected. I don't think he'll sit around for three full seasons on the bench.

To me, it looked like he didn't fully know the playbook last year, which sounds impossible for a guy like Aaron. Too many times he seemed to just be missing guys that were open because it just seemed like he didn't even check on them.

Will be an interesting year, I suspect we are either going to get the best Rodgers we have seen in years, or we are going to hear 17 weeks about how the GM and team let down Aaron by not getting a WR out of this draft.

I am curious to see what Rodgers can do with play action with really credible run threats. I think we will see that more this year.

[LittleRooster]

Imagine having a chance to to get four or five seasons out of one of the best QBs of all time and insisting that you want the offense run in a certain way that DOESN'T necessarily cater to what that QB does well. The offense shouldn't be structured independently of Rodgers. It should be structured AROUND Rodgers. Andy Reid isn't sitting around telling Patrick Mahomes to do less. He's adapted to his player.

LaFleur didn't give us any type of modernized offense. I didn't see imaginative play calling or route concepts. There wasn't overly extensive use of motion to disguise things. All in all, things were pretty vanilla, and given how his fingerprints seem to be all over this draft, personnel won't be an excuse he'll have.

If this was 2011 or 2014 I'd agree with you. But, 2020 Aaron Rodgers is NOT 2020 Patrick Mahomes.

Aaron Rodgers still has more talent in his body than all but 5 guys in the entire NFL. He doesn't need to be Patrick Mahomes to have an offense structured around him with his arm talent. When you have a talent of Rodgers ilk, you build a gameplan around what he does well. You don't build a game plan and system out of thin air and tell him to fit it. Good coaches adapt, bad coaches tell their players to. Build your offense around your personnel. If Rodgers isn't Mahomes was your takeaway from my post, you missed the boat.

The problem is Aaron isn’t playing within any offense and hasn’t for the last 6ish years. He ad-libs, which obviously can work, but he misses open stuff that’s there within the offense.

The second Vikings game, especially the first half, that’s Aaron playing within MLF’s offense. And it looked great. If he does that, we’re golden. The offense is designed for him and others to be successful


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[vital_signs]

Yeah that is funny, I didn't even remember him playing a snap before that Dallas game, but yeah, that is when I felt like we had a legit future QB

My one and only packer game was a blowout loss to the Patriots where Brett broke his foot and Aaron stepped in. At the time I felt like the franchise was in for a rough decade.

With that being said, seeing 3 HOF QBs play in one game has to be worth something right? Despite losing, if memory serves me correctly, 35-0. Atleast the tickets were free

[MickeyDavis]

Read on Twitter

[slappyg]

What an embarrassing draft. Jordan Love? Seriously? Look at his face and his demeanor. That dumb blank expression and grin. He will never be a regular starter in the NFL and Rodgers will want out ASAP.

An embarrassment, yes. The way Gute kissed MLF’s butt by reaching for all guys to fit MLF’s dreams with complete disregard to Rodgers, yes.

But to say Love won’t make it based on his facial expression? That’s pretty hard to believe. I’m as negative about this draft as anyone on this board but I still think there’s a chance Love will be successful. Whether he will be successful is very definitely tbd.

Yeah, even Cutler with his punch me face made it for a while

[jakecronus8]

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Had a friend text me that this is all Aaron sending messages that he wants out.

Afterlife is code for him leaving Green Bay and listing all of Gervais’ greatest hits is code for his Packers accomplishments. Season 2 meaning his next team.

People are so **** stupid.

[Frank Nova]

Yeah that is funny, I didn't even remember him playing a snap before that QB game, but yeah, that is when I felt like we had a legit future QB

He played in a blowout loss to the Ravens in 2005 and looked awful too.

It’s shocking to me to hear anyone say they had that type of confidence in Rodgers taking over. I vaguely remember the Dallas game as much as the 1st 2 seasons he had phantom season ending injuries. I remember being insanely pessimistic going from 4 to 12, even that 1st 6-10 season as a starter I thought we were stupid for pushing Brett out the door. His 2nd year as a starter in 09-10 was when the I became optimistic I was wrong and we had a potential superstar QB and he won his ship the following year. It took damn near 5yrs for Rodgers to prove he was the man.

[M-C-G]

Yeah that is funny, I didn't even remember him playing a snap before that QB game, but yeah, that is when I felt like we had a legit future QB

He played in a blowout loss to the Ravens in 2005 and looked awful too.

It’s shocking to me to hear anyone say they had that type of confidence in Rodgers taking over. I vaguely remember the Dallas game as much as the 1st 2 seasons he had phantom season ending injuries. I remember being insanely pessimistic going from 4 to 12, even that 1st 6-10 season as a starter I thought we were stupid for pushing Brett out the door. His 2nd year as a starter in 09-10 was when the I became optimistic I was wrong and we had a potential superstar QB and he won his ship the following year. It took damn near 5yrs for Rodgers to prove he was the man.

I think what we are saying is in that Dallas game, we recognized he had a chance to be really good. There was something about that game that just made me think, huh, dude can play.

[Treebeard]

Packers sign DL Treyvon Hester

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-sign-dl-treyvon-hester?fbclid=IwAR3bTO42X4Dr2uJmEUrmCu__Dhg9MV1FU2H39Sqcr0N5s0NuXEX5iAWd5lw

The Green Bay Packers have signed DL Treyvon Hester. General Manager Brian Gutekunst announced the transaction Friday.

Hester (6-2, 304), a fourth-year player out of the University of Toledo, was originally selected by the Oakland Raiders in the seventh round (No. 244 overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft. He has appeared in 41 games with two starts during his career and has registered 40 tackles (19 solo), two sacks, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. Hester played for the Raiders in 2017 (14 games played, one start), the Philadelphia Eagles in 2018 (12 games, one start) and the Washington Redskins in 2019 (15 games). He will wear No. 93 for the Packers.

[Daver]

Packers sign DL Treyvon Hester

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-sign-dl-treyvon-hester?fbclid=IwAR3bTO42X4Dr2uJmEUrmCu__Dhg9MV1FU2H39Sqcr0N5s0NuXEX5iAWd5lw

The Green Bay Packers have signed DL Treyvon Hester. General Manager Brian Gutekunst announced the transaction Friday.

Hester (6-2, 304), a fourth-year player out of the University of Toledo, was originally selected by the Oakland Raiders in the seventh round (No. 244 overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft. He has appeared in 41 games with two starts during his career and has registered 40 tackles (19 solo), two sacks, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery. Hester played for the Raiders in 2017 (14 games played, one start), the Philadelphia Eagles in 2018 (12 games, one start) and the Washington Redskins in 2019 (15 games). He will wear No. 93 for the Packers.

Yawn ....i guess no harrison then or gabriel just some guy who .......

[emunney]

It'd be great if Love was ready to be a starter at any point and forced a decision. I think it's early to say that the FO is planning this or that years in the future. Who knows what this situation will look like in 3 years? Rodgers could be retired and Love could have flamed out.

[LittleRooster]

He played in a blowout loss to the Ravens in 2005 and looked awful too.

It’s shocking to me to hear anyone say they had that type of confidence in Rodgers taking over. I vaguely remember the Dallas game as much as the 1st 2 seasons he had phantom season ending injuries. I remember being insanely pessimistic going from 4 to 12, even that 1st 6-10 season as a starter I thought we were stupid for pushing Brett out the door. His 2nd year as a starter in 09-10 was when the I became optimistic I was wrong and we had a potential superstar QB and he won his ship the following year. It took damn near 5yrs for Rodgers to prove he was the man.

I think what we are saying is in that Dallas game, we recognized he had a chance to be really good. There was something about that game that just made me think, huh, dude can play.

Yes. That’s when I felt it. That preseason was better and after the Dallas game I was in favor of moving on with Rodgers


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[emunney]

Wonder how MLF felt about Corey Davis.

[skones]

What exactly is this statement based on? Because the last two years he's been a pretty average QB.


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Except that that's not even close to being true. Feel free to take a look at what's "average" in the NFL. It's not Aaron Rodgers, and it's flat out ridiculous that you think so.