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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1461 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:04 pm

Precious Achiuwa > Onyeka
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1462 » by HEZI » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:06 pm

If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1463 » by robillionaire » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:15 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Precious Achiuwa > Onyeka


Here's a comparison. I think prefer okongwu mostly because he's over a year younger but was also more efficient. If precious develops a consistent 3 ball though I could see him being better. But he shot 59% from the line so idk. why do you think he's going to be better

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=precious-achiuwa--onyeka-okongwu
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1464 » by mpharris36 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:19 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1465 » by robillionaire » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:19 pm

HEZI wrote:If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past


I don't care if it's rigged or not if they'd just rig it for us :lol:

but look at it this way, someone WILL win the lottery and whoever it is, that team will have a 14% or less chance to win it, i went to tankathon and the warriors won the lotto on my 3rd roll
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1466 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:22 pm

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i am highly intrigued by what they might do there. they could use wiseman.

i'm a strong believer in BPA. if they think edwards or lamelo is BPA, it shouldn't matter that they have splash brothers.

trade down could be beneficial if the bounty is high and they have someone they like.

i'd have to think if all went according to record, #1 would cost the knicks #6 and an unprotected FRP the following year. i'm good on that.


The way the Warriors are built and play a lot of players could make sense. Edwards/Ball could be groomed with Steph getting older and Klay recovers. Ball in a lineup with all shooters could be fun to watch. Can pretty much put any wing or big in there too if that is who they like. Maybe they even flip it for a vet to make another run.

Yeah, I would not trade our own pick next year to move up. Looks like a great draft and we will probably suck. Not sure what else might get it done. I do love LaMelo as #1, but he is def risky....am ok with staying wherever we pick worst case.


it will be interesting, the warriors during there run have de-valued the center position. Even playing the best ball with Draymond Green as an undersized 5. I think they value spacing and positional flexibility too much to have a front court of green/wiseman.

Thats why I do believe they like someone like Deni...he can score a bit but his ability to play and guard a few positions at the 3 or possibly a small ball 4 and create a bit for Steph and Klay he makes sense to me for them and there up and down play style.


Yeah, that could def be the case where they don't target a big either. They love their small ball death lineups so may look for someone that fits better into that like Deni. Personally, I don't really see the hype with Deni and wouldnt take him in the lottery. But sounds like a lot of people are high on him.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1467 » by HEZI » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:25 pm

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HEZI wrote:If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past


I don't care if it's rigged or not if they'd just rig it for us :lol:

but look at it this way, someone WILL win the lottery and whoever it is, that team will have a 14% or less chance to win it, i went to tankathon and the warriors won the lotto on my 3rd roll


It would be complete BS to set the lotto up for the Warriors to win it. 86% chance of them not winning, don't care if they were to get lucky and win it legit, I'm still calling it BS :lol:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1468 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:28 pm

HEZI wrote:If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past


Warriors can have it this year if they rig it for us next year
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1469 » by Zenzibar » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:32 pm

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I just don't see any of these dudes as "sure". If I believed they were guaranteed to be a rotation player that may be another story. There are guys who people thought were safe bet sure things last year who didn't impress me very much. Culver for example. These guys can bust too. I guess my point is that they're all a gamble to some degree or another, I could envision a scenario where any of these players is a complete non-factor or bust

Case in point: there exist people amongst us who wanted culver over ja morant


Gonna share something with you 2 guys but keep between us ok :wink: , I'm one that though Culver was going to be a monster as he grows, moreso than R.J. :roll: But of course, now I'm glad we drafted Barrett.

For all the slack Scott Perry's signing has cause here, I for one, think his drafting has been really good. Especially finding talent that has slipped through the cracks.

Anyway as mentioned above, the 2021 draft is full with top talent. However, be aware that other than Cade Cunningham, it's loaded with bigs.
It's why as much as I like Obi Toppin, my preference would be for the Knicks front office to get 2 point guards in this draft, which is more point guard talent heavy than 2021.


Eh we've all been wrong about stuff. I liked the knox pick and that's not turning out well so far. Yeah that might be a good strategy. I would go PG and then hope a PG who maybe underwhelmed slips to 27 like tre jones or mannion. Let's just solidify our weakest position as much as we can. I like a lot of the SF-PF players from next years draft as well.

if it was up to me I'd be going after lamelo and trying to make a trade with the warriors or whoever is willing to move up a few spots and select him. if this is indeed the weak draft everyone says it is then the asking price shouldn't be very high


And1 your thinking.

If we load up on point guards this draft, we will either have the best corp of young point guards or 1 of three becomes a starter.

Either way that's a good draft, IMO. There's a slew of point guards: LaMelo, Tyrese, Killian Hayes, Cole, Devin Vassell, RJ Hampton, Theo Maledon, Kira Lewis Jr., Tyrese Maxey,and lesser note Deni Avdija.

We should load up on point guards and let them shake themselves out. We got 2 #1s next year for bigs or that one that slip through the cracks this year.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1470 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:33 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Precious Achiuwa > Onyeka


Here's a comparison. I think prefer okongwu mostly because he's over a year younger but was also more efficient. If precious develops a consistent 3 ball though I could see him being better. But he shot 59% from the line so idk. why do you think he's going to be better

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=precious-achiuwa--onyeka-okongwu

Precious is way more versatile on offense and can play lock down D at every position. He reminds me of Siakam. DX has him goin #8 now
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1471 » by HEZI » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:34 pm

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HEZI wrote:If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past


Warriors can have it this year if they rig it for us next year


I'm being cautious getting hype for that 2021 draft. 2019 draft class saw the same hype and with all these top prospects teaming up now in the GLeague its starting to resemble the Duke trio from last year. I'm sure there will be 1 or 2 studs that emerge but overall it might be getting overrated as a draft at the moment.

For all we know Green might just be another Cam Reddish. I do like Cade Cunningham though, he's got some ferocity to him that's intriguing
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Post#1472 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:37 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1473 » by blanko » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:04 pm

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Fury wrote:I can't believe we had this terrible a season and aren't even in the top 5. Special kind of bad


I'll wait until after our annual post lottery disappointment to express how enraged I am. They won 4 out of the last 7 games

I wasn't mad at the time because I figured they still had a portion of the season to turn the tank back on and get back down there. But now that I look at it the virus probably did us a favor because they would have kept going all out for wins until we were 9th or 10th


We all got to pray the league uses a uniform 63 game season for lottery purposes. The more we discuss it the fairer is sounds.
I think there will be 70 games. Just for the tv money there will be 70 games

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Post#1474 » by HerSports85 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:07 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1475 » by WargamesX » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:23 pm

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robillionaire wrote:
I'll wait until after our annual post lottery disappointment to express how enraged I am. They won 4 out of the last 7 games

I wasn't mad at the time because I figured they still had a portion of the season to turn the tank back on and get back down there. But now that I look at it the virus probably did us a favor because they would have kept going all out for wins until we were 9th or 10th


We all got to pray the league uses a uniform 63 game season for lottery purposes. The more we discuss it the fairer is sounds.
I think there will be 70 games. Just for the tv money there will be 70 games

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1476 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:27 pm

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HEZI wrote:If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past


Warriors can have it this year if they rig it for us next year


I'm being cautious getting hype for that 2021 draft. 2019 draft class saw the same hype and with all these top prospects teaming up now in the GLeague its starting to resemble the Duke trio from last year. I'm sure there will be 1 or 2 studs that emerge but overall it might be getting overrated as a draft at the moment.

For all we know Green might just be another Cam Reddish. I do like Cade Cunningham though, he's got some ferocity to him that's intriguing


Yea, you never know. I really dont know much about any of them, except for Cade a little. I am just expecting us to be bad again so something to look forward to in these dark times.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1477 » by robillionaire » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:29 pm

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HEZI wrote:
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Warriors can have it this year if they rig it for us next year


I'm being cautious getting hype for that 2021 draft. 2019 draft class saw the same hype and with all these top prospects teaming up now in the GLeague its starting to resemble the Duke trio from last year. I'm sure there will be 1 or 2 studs that emerge but overall it might be getting overrated as a draft at the moment.

For all we know Green might just be another Cam Reddish. I do like Cade Cunningham though, he's got some ferocity to him that's intriguing


Yea, you never know. I really dont know much about any of them, except for Cade a little. I am just expecting us to be bad again so something to look forward to in these dark times.


That's the thing is that I wouldn't even care if we were bad if we'd just play a bunch of young players. I'd enjoy watching development and tankathon standings. But they can't even get that right.
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Post#1478 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:47 pm

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Post#1479 » by robillionaire » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:12 pm

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