2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

[El Poochio]

Looks like another year we will be more excited by the player picked at 27th than 12th

[KnicksGadfly]

If Warriors do win the lotto you know it's rigged

14% chance is not that high

I've played with that tankathon simulator for a while and Warriors almost always drop out the top 3 and teams like Charlotte and Chicago consistently move up

I don't know but if we are being realistic then Warriors probably aren't winning the lotto unless it's fixed like some have been in the past

I don't care if it's rigged or not if they'd just rig it for us

but look at it this way, someone WILL win the lottery and whoever it is, that team will have a 14% or less chance to win it, i went to tankathon and the warriors won the lotto on my 3rd roll

It would be complete BS to set the lotto up for the Warriors to win it. 86% chance of them not winning, don't care if they were to get lucky and win it legit, I'm still calling it BS

If anyone but the Knicks wins it, then it's rigged

[robillionaire]

I don't care if it's rigged or not if they'd just rig it for us

but look at it this way, someone WILL win the lottery and whoever it is, that team will have a 14% or less chance to win it, i went to tankathon and the warriors won the lotto on my 3rd roll

It would be complete BS to set the lotto up for the Warriors to win it. 86% chance of them not winning, don't care if they were to get lucky and win it legit, I'm still calling it BS

If anyone but the Knicks wins it, then it's rigged

the one time we did win it was the time everybody insists it was rigged, I'm sure it will be the same if it ever happened again

[blanko]

We all got to pray the league uses a uniform 63 game season for lottery purposes. The more we discuss it the fairer is sounds.

I think there will be 70 games. Just for the tv money there will be 70 games

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I don’t know. honestly I hope the league comes back because that means the worst is over. If the season isn’t back by June 1st I think they call it and try to see if they can do some sort of playoffs.

They cant and wont do thwt due to tv contracts. The players want 70 games because their salaries will be cut short also. Its gonna be around 70 games.

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[blanko]

Warriors can have it this year if they rig it for us next year

I'm being cautious getting hype for that 2021 draft. 2019 draft class saw the same hype and with all these top prospects teaming up now in the GLeague its starting to resemble the Duke trio from last year. I'm sure there will be 1 or 2 studs that emerge but overall it might be getting overrated as a draft at the moment.

For all we know Green might just be another Cam Reddish. I do like Cade Cunningham though, he's got some ferocity to him that's intriguing

Yea, you never know. I really dont know much about any of them, except for Cade a little. I am just expecting us to be bad again so something to look forward to in these dark times.

Remember the 2014 draft? You never know.

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[gr3en]

Anybody else with our 27th pick is absurd

Read on Twitter

I hope he'll be around at 27. Still flying relatively below the radar right now.

Watch on YouTube

The 6-foot-4 guard with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, good at catch & shoot and seems he can guard 1-3 positions.. I could see him and RJ working well at the 2 and 3.

[Worst_to_First]

Been waiting for this to drop and it did not disappoint. I recommend this to everyone who is not familiar with his game. Goes into his game dating back to high school. Comparing him from high school to college, you can see a lot of growth. He also said he has been working on his weaknesses the past 4 months, watching full NBA games from 1985 and studying film on old school bigs. Wiseman has also been emphasizing motor throughout the whole video which is great. He didn't have a great motor in high school and he really worked on it in college and continues to talk about how important it is for a big man to always play hard. Great sign. He seems like a smart kid and looks like he did his homework on watching film cause he gave thorough answers to every question Mike Schmitz asked. I hope he becomes a Knick. It's also pretty cool that he can speak Mandarin.

Watch on YouTube

Thanks for posting this fam. Since way back I knew Wiseman is one smart dude and that he is a stud.

Still hope I can spend part of my savings in getting that #32 Wiseman Knick jersey but I have pretty much given up the thought that our FO is going to make the right decisions.

[KnicksGadfly]

Feeling pretty interested in Kira, Vassell more and more.

Kinda resigned myself to the fact that we're drafting Cole though.

[Thepaintismine]

It would be complete BS to set the lotto up for the Warriors to win it. 86% chance of them not winning, don't care if they were to get lucky and win it legit, I'm still calling it BS

If anyone but the Knicks wins it, then it's rigged

the one time we did win it was the time everybody insists it was rigged, I'm sure it will be the same if it ever happened again

I can live with that!

[3toheadmelo]

Been waiting for this to drop and it did not disappoint. I recommend this to everyone who is not familiar with his game. Goes into his game dating back to high school. Comparing him from high school to college, you can see a lot of growth. He also said he has been working on his weaknesses the past 4 months, watching full NBA games from 1985 and studying film on old school bigs. Wiseman has also been emphasizing motor throughout the whole video which is great. He didn't have a great motor in high school and he really worked on it in college and continues to talk about how important it is for a big man to always play hard. Great sign. He seems like a smart kid and looks like he did his homework on watching film cause he gave thorough answers to every question Mike Schmitz asked. I hope he becomes a Knick. It's also pretty cool that he can speak Mandarin.

Watch on YouTube

Thanks for posting this fam. Since way back I knew Wiseman is one smart dude and that he is a stud.

Still hope I can spend part of my savings in getting that #32 Wiseman Knick jersey but I have pretty much given up the thought that our FO is going to make the right decisions.

If we pass up Wiseman then I already have lost all hope in Leon Rose

[KnicksGadfly]

If anyone but the Knicks wins it, then it's rigged

the one time we did win it was the time everybody insists it was rigged, I'm sure it will be the same if it ever happened again

I can live with that!

Meh...we should have rigged the Luka draft if anything. That's how we know the Knicks aren't rigging anything.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Feeling pretty interested in Kira, Vassell more and more.

Kinda resigned myself to the fact that we're drafting Cole though.

I wouldn't be mad if we ended up with those 2 guys somehow. I do like them both. Probably not a ton of upside compared to other options, but could end up with 2 solid players in them. If we tanked one more season and found a future star in the '21 draft we would be in great shape.

Guess it just depends where our pick ends up.

[Richard4444]

It would be interesting to see what the Warriors would do at #1 or near the top. Wiseman does make sense. Or they could go in another direction...can even see them trading down.

i am highly intrigued by what they might do there. they could use wiseman.

i'm a strong believer in BPA. if they think edwards or lamelo is BPA, it shouldn't matter that they have splash brothers.

trade down could be beneficial if the bounty is high and they have someone they like.

i'd have to think if all went according to record, #1 would cost the knicks #6 and an unprotected FRP the following year. i'm good on that.

I am against giving away the 2021 FRP to trade up to get Edwards or Lamelo. Because without next year pick, we are going all in, trading Dallas e LAC picks for washed vets. Playoff will be an obligation in 2021.

[Richard4444]

Precious Achiuwa > Onyeka

Here's a comparison. I think prefer okongwu mostly because he's over a year younger but was also more efficient. If precious develops a consistent 3 ball though I could see him being better. But he shot 59% from the line so idk. why do you think he's going to be better

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=precious-achiuwa--onyeka-okongwu

Precious is way more versatile on offense and can play lock down D at every position. He reminds me of Siakam. DX has him goin #8 now

That whats we need. Another poor shooter.

Besides, I dont trust the value of bigs in todays market. Especially if they dont shoot 3s. Team can get good bigs for cheap and invest their assets in expensive wings and PGs.

[Zenzibar]

We need to walk away with 3 point guards in this PG heavy draft. If 1 is starter material and 1 bench player, I'll consider this a very good draft.

To draft a front court player in 2020 is nonsensical since we have Mitch, Knox and Randle for now and 2021 is laden with talented front court players.

Repeat, we need to walk away with either of 3: LaMelo, Tyrese Haliburton, Killian Hayes, Anthony Cole, RJ Hampton, Kira Lewis Jr. Tyrese Maxey, Devin Vassell, Desmond Bane, Jahmi'us Ramsey, Leandro Bolmaro etc.



There is NO reason to draft Wiseman or any other big if our need is at the point.

[Richard4444]

I think there will be 70 games. Just for the tv money there will be 70 games

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I don’t know. honestly I hope the league comes back because that means the worst is over. If the season isn’t back by June 1st I think they call it and try to see if they can do some sort of playoffs.

They cant and wont do thwt due to tv contracts. The players want 70 games because their salaries will be cut short also. Its gonna be around 70 games.

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Dont the players already agree to receive 25% less?

https://gulfnews.com/sport/coronavirus-nba-players-to-have-salaries-cut-by-25-per-cent-because-of-covid-19-pandemic-1.71046271

[3toheadmelo]

Here's a comparison. I think prefer okongwu mostly because he's over a year younger but was also more efficient. If precious develops a consistent 3 ball though I could see him being better. But he shot 59% from the line so idk. why do you think he's going to be better

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=precious-achiuwa--onyeka-okongwu

Precious is way more versatile on offense and can play lock down D at every position. He reminds me of Siakam. DX has him goin #8 now

That whats we need. Another poor shooter.

Besides, I dont trust the value of bigs in todays market. Especially if they dont shoot 3s. Team can get good bigs for cheap and invest their assets in expensive wings and PGs.

If that was the case then Houston would be the best team in the league

[Richard4444]

Precious is way more versatile on offense and can play lock down D at every position. He reminds me of Siakam. DX has him goin #8 now

That whats we need. Another poor shooter.

Besides, I dont trust the value of bigs in todays market. Especially if they dont shoot 3s. Team can get good bigs for cheap and invest their assets in expensive wings and PGs.

If that was the case then Houston would be the best team in the league

The Houston problem is that their guards are so expensive (Russel, Harden and Gordon make 90M), there are no cap space left for a Big. Besides, Dantoni doesnt mind.

[Richard4444]

It will be very hard to land with the 27 pick players like Vassel, Maxey, Nesmith, Saddiq, Ramsay, Precious, Maledon and Kira. I think they are moving up in the boards.

The most realistic targets would be Jalen Smith, Mannion, Pokusevski, Cassius and Tre Jones if we dont trade up.

[3toheadmelo]

That whats we need. Another poor shooter.

Besides, I dont trust the value of bigs in todays market. Especially if they dont shoot 3s. Team can get good bigs for cheap and invest their assets in expensive wings and PGs.

If that was the case then Houston would be the best team in the league

The Houston problem is that their guards are so expensive (Russel, Harden and Gordon make 90M), there are no cap space left for a Big. Besides, Dantoni doesnt mind.

They don’t care for bigs that’s why they suck. Every team that has won a championship in recent history has had a very good big man. The only outlier is Golden state and that’s because they have arguably the best shooter of all time.