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Grade the 2020 Packers Draft

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How do you grade the 2020 Packers Draft?

A
2
3%
B
4
5%
C
20
27%
D
28
38%
F
20
27%
 
Total votes: 74

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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#141 » by M-C-G » Fri May 1, 2020 5:30 pm

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I see us 7-9 this year. My reasoning:

We overachieved and are likely to return to the norm (Barnwell's point)
We were very healthy last year - unlikely to continue
When we drafted A Rod we dropped 6 games, from 10-6 to 4-12. History tends to repeat itself.
We are constantly in the media. Teams go out of there way to avoid this noise as this always leads to losing.
We did nothing to improve the D, and teams just need to look to the San Fran game as a blueprint for a game plan.


I thought I was pessimistic but you have taken it to new heights. I think 10-6 or 11-5 is more realistic.

1. I agree we overachieved last year, but I'll add that another year with the head coach who calls plays works in our favor
2. We were very healthy last year, seems like the first time in forever...I'd counter slightly we have more depth this year
3. History repeating itself is irrelevant as a causal
4. Agree the media attention and the amount they are going to try and create a stir because we drafted a QB is going to be a pain in the ass all year
5. We have a TON of young players on the D already on the roster, a number of guys under 24...they need to step up their games
Kenny Clark, Kevin King, Darnell Savage, Jaire Alexander, Oren Burks, Josh Jackson, Rashan Gary, Montravious Adams, Kingsey Keke...that is a lot of young guys on a defense that flexed a lot of potential last year.
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#142 » by Treebeard » Fri May 1, 2020 6:06 pm

The Bears and Lions are still bad, IMO. The Vikes lost several key veterans, so this may be a step back year for them, but the reloaded nicely for the following seasons.

That should be good for 5 &1?
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#143 » by Reddeye » Fri May 1, 2020 7:29 pm

M-C-G wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
I see us 7-9 this year. My reasoning:

We overachieved and are likely to return to the norm (Barnwell's point)
We were very healthy last year - unlikely to continue
When we drafted A Rod we dropped 6 games, from 10-6 to 4-12. History tends to repeat itself.
We are constantly in the media. Teams go out of there way to avoid this noise as this always leads to losing.
We did nothing to improve the D, and teams just need to look to the San Fran game as a blueprint for a game plan.


I thought I was pessimistic but you have taken it to new heights. I think 10-6 or 11-5 is more realistic.

1. I agree we overachieved last year, but I'll add that another year with the head coach who calls plays works in our favor
2. We were very healthy last year, seems like the first time in forever...I'd counter slightly we have more depth this year
3. History repeating itself is irrelevant as a causal
4. Agree the media attention and the amount they are going to try and create a stir because we drafted a QB is going to be a pain in the ass all year
5. We have a TON of young players on the D already on the roster, a number of guys under 24...they need to step up their games
Kenny Clark, Kevin King, Darnell Savage, Jaire Alexander, Oren Burks, Josh Jackson, Rashan Gary, Montravious Adams, Kingsey Keke...that is a lot of young guys on a defense that flexed a lot of potential last year.


There was a lot of media attention last year with the whole Rodgers and Lafleur relationship.

There aren't many teams that can run the ball like the 49ers can. I doubt too many can use that blueprint.
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#144 » by BUCKnation » Fri May 1, 2020 8:54 pm

How "lucky" we were was over stated. We dominated most games and they only ended up close late due to garbage time and the offense stalling a bit. The 2 Lions games were ones where we were probably lucky, but rest were very controlled. The Eagles loss may be just as unlucky as either one of the Lions games.

The schedule was pretty easy too though, tbf. 11-12 wins last year is probably about right.
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#145 » by stillgotgame » Mon May 25, 2020 4:52 pm

Good article on the guy I thought we traded to get...

https://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/52286/big-risk-why-ravens-see-patrick-queen-as-a-hit-despite-inexperience


I was pretty pissed at the time when we didn't pick him. he was the guy I was targeting, thought a fast LB was tops on our list. Now I have to say I'm excited about us taking Love. Rodgers being cool about it really is a good thing. Love needs to learn all he can.
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#146 » by zmanishere11 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:54 pm

zmanishere11 wrote:We didn't draft one guy who's going to play significantly in 2020. This is an F, and I hope to christ the media holds Gute and Lafleur accountable for this.

When we look back on this 3 years from now, this draft will be the reason we continue to get just hammered by good teams in the playoffs. That is assuming we even make the playoffs.

The 49ers got better this off-season, we did not, and it's depressing.

2020 will be the first year ever I will not put money on GB to win the super bowl.

Most of these guys won't play their contracts out.

On specific players:

Love is Josh Freeman

Dillon and Deguara are dudes who worked in offenses 20 years ago and won't make an impact and are literally the opposite of what we need. They will force these guys on the field and the offense will be worse because of it.

Kamal Martin is not on the team in year 3

One of the offensive linemen will be our starting center for 2021, one will be a backup, one is Jason Spriggs.

The last two guys - one won't make the 53 this year, the other won't make it next year.

Total fail.

A better draft which was on the table would have been:

1-Jonathan Taylor
2-Jalen Hurts (trade up give up the 4th)
3-Adam Trautman
4-F*ck you Gute I'm not doing your job for you anymore

I'm not happy about having to re-read this in the future



I'm going to backtrack on this a little. Still hate the Love pick because we can win the next two years, and he just doesn't help that at all. Dillon is growing on me, had he been at Alabama he could have won the Heisman, and there's no way we keep Jones. Deguara I still don't get - maybe he'll turn into a weapon we can use on offense. We're going to need the o-line depth after this year - think 1 or 2 of those guys may actually play. Didn't know the entire Martin story when we drafted him with the injury.

To be clear I still mostly hate this. It just may not be the end of the world like I thought initially
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#147 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:14 pm

zmanishere11 wrote:
zmanishere11 wrote:We didn't draft one guy who's going to play significantly in 2020. This is an F, and I hope to christ the media holds Gute and Lafleur accountable for this.

When we look back on this 3 years from now, this draft will be the reason we continue to get just hammered by good teams in the playoffs. That is assuming we even make the playoffs.

The 49ers got better this off-season, we did not, and it's depressing.

2020 will be the first year ever I will not put money on GB to win the super bowl.

Most of these guys won't play their contracts out.

On specific players:

Love is Josh Freeman

Dillon and Deguara are dudes who worked in offenses 20 years ago and won't make an impact and are literally the opposite of what we need. They will force these guys on the field and the offense will be worse because of it.

Kamal Martin is not on the team in year 3

One of the offensive linemen will be our starting center for 2021, one will be a backup, one is Jason Spriggs.

The last two guys - one won't make the 53 this year, the other won't make it next year.

Total fail.

A better draft which was on the table would have been:

1-Jonathan Taylor
2-Jalen Hurts (trade up give up the 4th)
3-Adam Trautman
4-F*ck you Gute I'm not doing your job for you anymore

I'm not happy about having to re-read this in the future



I'm going to backtrack on this a little. Still hate the Love pick because we can win the next two years, and he just doesn't help that at all. Dillon is growing on me, had he been at Alabama he could have won the Heisman, and there's no way we keep Jones. Deguara I still don't get - maybe he'll turn into a weapon we can use on offense. We're going to need the o-line depth after this year - think 1 or 2 of those guys may actually play. Didn't know the entire Martin story when we drafted him with the injury.

To be clear I still mostly hate this. It just may not be the end of the world like I thought initially
It's always best to actually see the players play in the pros before judging but that would make for an awful boring message board :)

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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#148 » by humanrefutation » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:55 am

I'm still stuck at a C. I still think that we didn't get great value out of our picks. But if they end up being the right guys, I won't care about that.

The Love pick is obviously going to be hard to evaluate without adding him play regularly, which probably won't be for a while.

I also think keeping the league COVID-free is going to be almost impossible with teams this big. And it's not easy to reschedule games if there's an outbreak. So, I could foresee a scenario that we don't even have a full season. And that'll make this class even harder to evaluate.
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Re: Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#149 » by neiLz » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:06 am

This is a tough year to grade. Outside of Martin at ilb showing signs, the o line showing flashes but are probably backups, dillon having huge legs, and love struggling this is mediocre at best. But I'm not going to judge until a real off season and camp. They targeted their guys so we have to wait til regular season and next off season to judge.
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Post#150 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:23 pm

The draft is entirely about Love, to me. If he pans out and the Packers have their QB for another ten years, it's an A. If he doesn't and the Packers struggle for a few years after Rodgers before drafting another QB, it's going to be tough to grade the class higher than a D.
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Grade the 2020 Packers Draft 

Post#151 » by M-C-G » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:The draft is entirely about Love, to me. If he pans out and the Packers have their QB for another ten years, it's an A. If he doesn't and the Packers struggle for a few years after Rodgers before drafting another QB, it's going to be tough to grade the class higher than a D.


Disagree. AJ Dillon ends up being Derrick Henry lite, allows you to move on from overpaying Jones, Max takes over starting center for Linsley next year, Martin becomes a similar impact to Blake.

Those three possible things represent 100M in savings if you factor in the contracts. That allows you to do a lot of other things. And of course I am spitballing the numbers but hopefully you get my point.

That might be the difference between letting Bakh and King walk or staying around.

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