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Tofubeque wrote:This video had a more balanced look at Pokusevski and it really turned me off him. He has zero base, unengaged on defense, and not a good decision maker. His competition level looks like a joke also.
HeadtopChunes wrote:Psubs wrote:casual_raps_fan wrote:If we can only bring back one of Serge and Gasol, sign me up for Poeltl.
Poeltl for the full MLE for 4 years? I think Spurs still might match it for his prime years.
Full MLE might be too much but I'd love to bring back Yak and Skills that was a fun pairing. Poeltl is interesting to me since he's a smart player but his lack of strength holds him back. Casey was 100% confident that Yak would shoot 3s one day but that hasn't came yet. I wonder if he can be developed into an old Marc type of player?
Psubs wrote:Indeed wrote:
He will be behind Davis, therefore, I don't see him as a starter.
https://gleague.nba.com/news/2019-nba-g-league-elite-camp-player-measurements-and-testing-results-draft-eligible/
Davis showed well at this last year. So did Dewan, that's why I guess we got him. Elleby did not so that's why he went back to college.
Chris Clemons ... oh he's 5'9 but got a guaranteed deal from the Rockets!
Hmmmm, Myles Powell showed well but went back to college. Oh he didn't have as good a senior year. Maybe undrafted invite?
Instead nab Markus Howard if he drops to #58?
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Man, I'm such a huge fan of Bane. I don't know why but he's always reminded me of Lowry. Probably because of his physique combined with his toughness & high bball IQ. Lowry would be a tremendous mentor for him. I really hope we take him with our second round pick.
Truthfully, I wouldn't even mind drafting him (or Mane) with #28. [i.e. if we're gonna draft a guard]
Kevin Willis wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:
Man, I'm such a huge fan of Bane. I don't know why but he's always reminded me of Lowry. Probably because of his physique combined with his toughness & high bball IQ. Lowry would be a tremendous mentor for him. I really hope we take him with our second round pick.
Truthfully, I wouldn't even mind drafting him (or Mane) with #28. [i.e. if we're gonna draft a guard]
They will probably do undrafted. Bane is almost 22 with short arms. Mane is 20 already and hasn't played against good competition in the NCAA or Europe. Plus they're both a little short for SG and not good enough to be NBA PG. Masai might be bold and give it a shot but 28 is too big of a risk and if we sign FVV we're good for guards for at least a couple of years.
They would have to beat out TD, Norm, FVV, Thomas, etc.
Dalek wrote:The guy who I think is criminally underrated is Nico Mannion. To be fair there are a lot of PGs in the draft, but there is a wide variance that even puts him available at the Raps pick.
Mannion was a prep star who straight away led a team in Arizona as a freshman with NBA level athletes around him (Nanji and Green).
This size at 6-3 with a short wingspan and limited dunking ability are what people read on paper. However, watching film he is smart and sneaky athletic.
+ Scores from three levels including a Nash like floater
+ Makes obscene NBA level passes off screen and rolls or pocket passes
+ Quick feet and hands on defense
+ Can play off the ball
- can switch out on D but can lose focus and not sure how he will deal with the physicality
- can he improve his efficiency against elite size/length?
I think at the back end of the first, if he is there you do it. It is almost like how underrated Nash was coming in.
All of his skills show in this game. The passing is brilliant in this. Floaters on display as well. Even has a nice step back to his game.
Sir-Swish-A-Lot wrote:Nico Mannion, really? Nothing stands out about him, he is very basic.
I follow the Pac-12 very closely and he wasn't anything special. Pac-12 pgs used to blow past him like the wind. He's just like Terrell Terry (Stanford) if his shot isn't falling he doesn't really do anything else that impacts the game.
Nico shot FG 39.2%, 3FG 32.7%, FT 79.7% for the season at Arizona.
Nico is nothing like Steve Nash. Nico is another Pac-12 guard that CJ Elleby is better than. The Raptors would be very wise to stay far away from Nico if he's still available at #28.
HeadtopChunes wrote:Bane isn’t going undrafted, hes a legit movement shooter + good defender and can dribble/pass. Although we’ve seen good players fall before. I’d take him at 28 depending on how the rest of the board plays out. If he lasts into the second round that’s a major steal. Could be this years Brogdan.
Kevin Willis wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:Bane isn’t going undrafted, hes a legit movement shooter + good defender and can dribble/pass. Although we’ve seen good players fall before. I’d take him at 28 depending on how the rest of the board plays out. If he lasts into the second round that’s a major steal. Could be this years Brogdan.
I hope that Bane and CJ get drafted before the 28th pick so we can get someone like Nesmith. Nesmith can do everything Bane could do but better and he's younger and taller.
HeadtopChunes wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:Bane isn’t going undrafted, hes a legit movement shooter + good defender and can dribble/pass. Although we’ve seen good players fall before. I’d take him at 28 depending on how the rest of the board plays out. If he lasts into the second round that’s a major steal. Could be this years Brogdan.
I hope that Bane and CJ get drafted before the 28th pick so we can get someone like Nesmith. Nesmith can do everything Bane could do but better and he's younger and taller.
Nesmith is definitely getting drafted before #20 I don’t think Raptors have a chance without a trade up . But I don’t think he and Bane are the same type of player. Nesmith is an even better movement shooter like a JJ Reddick type.
Bane can shoot off motion but not to the same level but hes more well rounded in other parts of his game dribble/pass/defense.
Dalek wrote:The guy who I think is criminally underrated is Nico Mannion. To be fair there are a lot of PGs in the draft, but there is a wide variance that even puts him available at the Raps pick.
Mannion was a prep star who straight away led a team in Arizona as a freshman with NBA level athletes around him (Nanji and Green).
This size at 6-3 with a short wingspan and limited dunking ability are what people read on paper. However, watching film he is smart and sneaky athletic.
+ Scores from three levels including a Nash like floater
+ Makes obscene NBA level passes off screen and rolls or pocket passes
+ Quick feet and hands on defense
+ Can play off the ball
- can switch out on D but can lose focus and not sure how he will deal with the physicality
- can he improve his efficiency against elite size/length?
I think at the back end of the first, if he is there you do it. It is almost like how underrated Nash was coming in.
All of his skills show in this game. The passing is brilliant in this. Floaters on display as well. Even has a nice step back to his game.
HeadtopChunes wrote:Here's an interesting guy, Naji Marshall 6'7 220lbs potentially someone who can dribble/pass/ shoot and be a nice versatile defender.
The highlights make him look fantastic
But he didn't have the greatest season from 3. Specifically in terms of his jumper was really bad first 8 games, and then his bad shot selection and role as an on-ball creator tanked his efficiency. However, he did shoot 69% at the rim and 39% on 2pt jumpers which are both good numbers. Since he is 22 already his stock seems to be deep in the 2nd right now.
Here's a far more thorough breakdown if you are interested. https://www.thestepien.com/2020/01/24/case-naji-marshall/
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LoveMyRaps wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:Here's an interesting guy, Naji Marshall 6'7 220lbs potentially someone who can dribble/pass/ shoot and be a nice versatile defender.
The highlights make him look fantastic
But he didn't have the greatest season from 3. Specifically in terms of his jumper was really bad first 8 games, and then his bad shot selection and role as an on-ball creator tanked his efficiency. However, he did shoot 69% at the rim and 39% on 2pt jumpers which are both good numbers. Since he is 22 already his stock seems to be deep in the 2nd right now.
Here's a far more thorough breakdown if you are interested. https://www.thestepien.com/2020/01/24/case-naji-marshall/
He reminds me a lot of Paul George. (Maybe that's why he rocks #13).
Interestingly enough, here are their college stats:
Naji:
PG13:
Scary similar, eh? (even look at the years
PG didn't have the prettiest of jump shots in college, his shooting mechanics have significantly improved since he came to the league. Could that be the same case with Naji? If anyone can do it, its the Raptors development team. Worst case scenario, we end up with another Shamorie Ponds.
I think he goes undrafted so hopefully we pick him up for the summer league squad.
super_balls wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:Here's an interesting guy, Naji Marshall 6'7 220lbs potentially someone who can dribble/pass/ shoot and be a nice versatile defender.
The highlights make him look fantastic
But he didn't have the greatest season from 3. Specifically in terms of his jumper was really bad first 8 games, and then his bad shot selection and role as an on-ball creator tanked his efficiency. However, he did shoot 69% at the rim and 39% on 2pt jumpers which are both good numbers. Since he is 22 already his stock seems to be deep in the 2nd right now.
Here's a far more thorough breakdown if you are interested. https://www.thestepien.com/2020/01/24/case-naji-marshall/
He reminds me a lot of Paul George. (Maybe that's why he rocks #13).
Interestingly enough, here are their college stats:
Naji:
PG13:
Scary similar, eh? (even look at the years
PG didn't have the prettiest of jump shots in college, his shooting mechanics have significantly improved since he came to the league. Could that be the same case with Naji? If anyone can do it, its the Raptors development team. Worst case scenario, we end up with another Shamorie Ponds.
I think he goes undrafted so hopefully we pick him up for the summer league squad.
He actually reminds me a lot of Khris Middleton.
