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BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don't understand all of the Nwora love in here. He won't be more than a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist in the NBA. He disappears against the best teams and stat pads against bad teams.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don't understand all of the Nwora love in here. He won't be more than a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist in the NBA. He disappears against the best teams and stat pads against bad teams.
Kevin Willis wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don't understand all of the Nwora love in here. He won't be more than a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist in the NBA. He disappears against the best teams and stat pads against bad teams.
I would prefer Nesmith and Bolomaro. But a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist for our 28th pick is not too bad.
HeadtopChunes wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don't understand all of the Nwora love in here. He won't be more than a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist in the NBA. He disappears against the best teams and stat pads against bad teams.
Yeah, whenever I watched Louisville I came away thoroughly underwhelmed by Nwora, might just be bad luck but he could be one of those dudes that's better on paper than in practice.
Sutton looked much better to me, albeit he's older and not a good shooter.
we need young bigs in the system. 
Psubs wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don't understand all of the Nwora love in here. He won't be more than a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist in the NBA. He disappears against the best teams and stat pads against bad teams.
I would prefer Nesmith and Bolomaro. But a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist for our 28th pick is not too bad.
Ya, I would like Nesmith instead too but don't think he'd drop. Maybe Nesmith ends up like Dougy McBuckets?
Dalek wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don't understand all of the Nwora love in here. He won't be more than a catch-and-shoot 3 point specialist in the NBA. He disappears against the best teams and stat pads against bad teams.
Yeah, whenever I watched Louisville I came away thoroughly underwhelmed by Nwora, might just be bad luck but he could be one of those dudes that's better on paper than in practice.
Sutton looked much better to me, albeit he's older and not a good shooter.
I am just catching up on Nwora. Against Florida State he had 32 points with a line-up that had Patrick Williams and Devin Vassell which he collectively outscored. Conversely, he 6 points against Duke.
At 28, you are going to get a flawed prospect. I look at his body of work and he shot about 40% over 6 made threes, grabbed about 7 boards and scored 18 points over the past year.
His film looks like he has no fear of contact in driving to the hoop so he can attack closeouts and he loves to challenge shots at the rim. At the very least he can be a better version of RHJ so you can see him having a back-up role.
Just imagine Toronto's development program working this guy. Interesting that he is born in Buffalo. He might welcome playing close to home. Might be a good fit for everyone.
Not sure about his whether he is a worker, but I am sure it would be hard to dig up info on his background.
Brinbe wrote:remember when this used to be our super bowl? how times change...
haven't done much scouting on the guys this year, but i'd be fine with any defensive-minded big with athleticism and room to grow offensively. Oturu would be a good shout, but I doubt he drops to us.
Jalen Smith?
Psubs wrote:
Ya, I'd prefer a big since Marc and Ibaka are FA's.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:Psubs wrote:
Ya, I'd prefer a big since Marc and Ibaka are FA's.
If the following bigs are available, who do you draft:
Daniel Oturu
Reggie Perry
Carey Jr.
Jalen Smith
Isaiah Stewart
For me, Perry is the guy. I'm confident he'll be an all-star in the NBA. (if he gets traded by the Raptors
Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:remember when this used to be our super bowl? how times change...
haven't done much scouting on the guys this year, but i'd be fine with any defensive-minded big with athleticism and room to grow offensively. Oturu would be a good shout, but I doubt he drops to us.
Jalen Smith?
Ya, I'd prefer a big since Marc and Ibaka are FA's.
Rim protection is not always an aspect of the game we see from small ball centers. Take PJ Tucker as an example, in contrast to Draymond Green. Yet Pons clearly has some ability there. But the two real reasons most teams choose to go small are for added skill, often in terms of shooting, and added athleticism, in order to allow more flexibility in switching. As to the latter point, that’s an area of the game that Pons as a defender might truly excel. Not super surprising, since all out defensive destruction of smaller players in international play was one of his calling cards coming into Tennessee.
Dalek wrote:Good article on Yves Pons. He really is as the article says "darling of the alternative draft" as he doesn't fit traditional profiles. The guy I can see for him in short time is to be like a Richuan Holmes type. Pons is a good screener, can guard at least three positions, and hits jumpers at a pretty good rate.
From the draft perspective, he is like the equivalent of OG Anunoby, but as a small ball five. Just a complete monster on defense that did well against difficult match-ups. Like OG he shows an emerging offensive game, but you know what you get on defense from day one.Rim protection is not always an aspect of the game we see from small ball centers. Take PJ Tucker as an example, in contrast to Draymond Green. Yet Pons clearly has some ability there. But the two real reasons most teams choose to go small are for added skill, often in terms of shooting, and added athleticism, in order to allow more flexibility in switching. As to the latter point, that’s an area of the game that Pons as a defender might truly excel. Not super surprising, since all out defensive destruction of smaller players in international play was one of his calling cards coming into Tennessee.
https://www.thestepien.com/2019/11/19/draft-notes-yves-pons-five-center/
LoveMyRaps wrote:
This is the second time this nonsense has been tweeted out in the last 24 hours.
LOL.
Why is Lowry always part of the wildest, idiotic draft night trade rumors?
RaptorPride wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:
This is the second time this nonsense has been tweeted out in the last 24 hours.
LOL.
Why is Lowry always part of the wildest, idiotic draft night trade rumors?
I would love to get Ball. He's great at creating on the fast break and his full-court passes are a perfect fit for this team since we love the fast break so much. It also would help pascal to have someone like that to get him the ball on fast breaks.
HeadtopChunes wrote:Yeah, I agree with the main premise to your argument, I'm just not a fan of Nwora on either end tbh. He's a good shooter but it appears that's all he is and if that's true there are better players for this role. Besides that, he doesn't really stand out on defense and looks like a below-average athlete for a forward. I think he's more Malcolm Miller than Rondae.
Just not a fan overall.
"I would say that a lot of principles that (Virginia's teams) hold, we want to be the same type of team in terms of positioning," Mack said in a recent interview with Courier Journal. "We want shots to be contested. We don't want to have just-missed steals and put ourselves in five-on-four situations in the halfcourt."
The goal is to play defense like a hand, with five players moving together as a unit.
Psubs wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:Yeah, I agree with the main premise to your argument, I'm just not a fan of Nwora on either end tbh. He's a good shooter but it appears that's all he is and if that's true there are better players for this role. Besides that, he doesn't really stand out on defense and looks like a below-average athlete for a forward. I think he's more Malcolm Miller than Rondae.
Just not a fan overall.
Researching Pack Line defenses! It seems like some similar philosophies that Nick Nurse runs. Though since a lot of NBA players are great shooters jumping by a good 3pt shooter isn't bad (just don't foul them).
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/04/24/louisville-basketball-pack-line-defense-chris-mack-xavier-virginia-basketball/482757002/"I would say that a lot of principles that (Virginia's teams) hold, we want to be the same type of team in terms of positioning," Mack said in a recent interview with Courier Journal. "We want shots to be contested. We don't want to have just-missed steals and put ourselves in five-on-four situations in the halfcourt."
The goal is to play defense like a hand, with five players moving together as a unit.
I guess there's a lot of help defense and switching.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/acc/2020.html
Louisville gave up the 2nd fewest PPG in the ACC. Dick Bennett created the Pack Line defense and his son Tony Bennett runs it at Virginia, who is #1 in fewest PPG in the ACC.
So he doesn't gamble on steals and blocks that put you out of position but will chase down blocks at the rim.
Dwayne Suttton, should have a look at #58.
HeadtopChunes wrote:
Your guy, Oturu also plays in packline D .
