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moocow007 wrote:Richard4444 wrote:moocow007 wrote:
The Knicks would be absolutely insane to take Nesmith 6. Can we stop with the over inflated emphasis on 3 point shooting?
I stop only when NBA stops...
Drafting a 3 point shooting role player in the lottery when other better players are available? You honestly think the Knicks biggest issue is 3 point shooting?
robillionaire wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:Naughtyfatboy wrote:
He could be anywhere from Dante exum to Zach Lavine. His biggest strength right now is his speed and Creative finishing ability. He’s not elite at anything the Knicks need though he’s not elite at anything in general unless being fast is considered a skill. He’s not a playmaker or shooter either. This is another wait and see project to go along with the other wait and see projects the Knicks have.
Gamble pick that might or might not work.
But none the less he does have just as much potential As probably anyone else.
Reminds me too much of a Kevin Knox pick. Yea, Knox had star potential and we lost out on SGA, but even taking the safer bet on one of the Bridges brothers would have done these things:
1. Helped RJ, Mitch and a bunch of other people
2. Not need to spend money on Randle (Miles) or random shooters (Mikal)
3. Not need to hire babysitters to teach Kevin not to play Fortnite
The only thing worse than drafting a serviceable role player is to draft a "fake star." Someone who can only play like Kobe on offense but gives you Dion Waiters results. The Kobe mentality only works if you're good.
well that's why they call it a gamble. obviously it might or not work out just iike with any other player but the potential for the home run is there
moocow007 wrote:Hamptons mentality is more Dante Exum than Zack Lavine. LaVine elevates his game intensity when the going gets tough. Thats always been one of the positives of LaVines approach despite other shortcomings. Hampton, like Exum, tends to dissappear in similar challenges. Mentality matters...see Kevin Knox...see soon to be Jaden McDaniels. Folks do not factor that enough. The NBA is not a walk in the park. The difference that separates those that can succeed and can't often is what's in the left side of their chest.
robillionaire wrote:RHODEY wrote:Naughtyfatboy wrote:
Hailburton and ntilkina on defense would be nice to see but on offense not really. You have two players in your backcourt who prefer to run the offense through teammates as facilitators but don’t really have scoring on there mind it seems like an overlap. Hailburton would work best next to a combo guard so would ntilkina.
I think Halliburton' scoring is understated. Over 15 points a game.... that's not bad at all.
it's not great he played 36.7 mins a game that's 14.9 per 36. It is admittedly better than Frank who scored 10.8 per 36 but Frank was going up against NBA guys
3toheadmelo wrote:Cole falling to 13 again
3toheadmelo wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:I just did a spin on tankathon. first try:
1. New York Knicks - LaMelo Ball
2. Minnesota Timberwoles - Anthony Edwards
3. NEW ORLEANS PELICANS - James Wiseman
Killian went 7 to Detroit. Halliburton 8 to the Bulls. Hampton 10 to Wizards. Cole 11 to Phoenix.
I’ll be pretty happy if we get any of Lamelo/Wiseman/Edwards. But if the Pelicans get Wiseman... they gonna be running the league
Naughtyfatboy wrote:WargamesX wrote:
Here’s a video of Tyrese as a Freshman playing defense against a really good Texas Tech team. Think about it Tyrese and Frank playing together for spurts defending the perimeter, defending against other teams guards with Mitch behind them anchoring the defense, RJ taking a breather to come back in and do some work.....
You all know you would all love to see that.
Hailburton and ntilkina on defense would be nice to see but on offense not really. You have two players in your backcourt who prefer to run the offense through teammates as facilitators but don’t really have scoring on there mind it seems like an overlap. Hailburton would work best next to a combo guard so would ntilkina.
HEZI wrote:It's no coincidence that the last time we had success was when we won 54 games and here's where we ranked in 3 point shooting
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013.html
1st in the entire league in 3 pointers made
1st in the entire league in 3 pointers attempted
Tied for 4th/5th in the entire league in 3 point percentage at .376%
We had the blueprint for success but it was an older roster with a small window of opportunity. The way we won games though was we had an iso scorer, a 1/5 pick and roll and 3 point shooters. It was simple and it worked. Whatever we've been trying since then hasn't and won't work so all this bully ball nonsense and not putting an emphasis on shooting needs to end. Go back to not only what has worked for us in the past but what continues to work for other teams currently.
3toheadmelo wrote:Cole falling to 13 again
WargamesX wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Cole falling to 13 again
I can’t see this order happening. At least two of Obi, Deni, and Okoro should go before Hayes and Haliburton based on talent and need.
3toheadmelo wrote:Haliburton is definitely a way better scorer than Frank. Frank never had a stretch of games like this ever.
thebuzzardman wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Haliburton is definitely a way better scorer than Frank. Frank never had a stretch of games like this ever.
Who needs Haliburton when Knicks have:
There may be pressure on the New York Knicks to draft a point guard at No. 6, but the best player available is still the only priority. Plus, there are enough questions about North Carolina's Cole Anthony to be concerned about giving him the keys to the offense. And while France's Killian Hayes deserves consideration, it's easy to picture the Knicks front office feeling more confident in Obi Toppin, college basketball's Player of the Year.
The Knicks should also have a pick in the late first round (via Los Angeles Clippers) and early second round (via Charlotte Hornets), so they could draft a point guard then or offer a trade package to move up.
Meanwhile, Toppin's explosiveness and expanding skill set may be too tough to pass on in a draft filled with uncertainty. Aside from his elite finishing and solid post play, he's become a promising shooter (39.0 percent 3PT) and nifty passer.
The Knicks know Julius Randle isn't a realistic option to lead the rebuild. Other than age (22), the biggest question mark with Toppin is his defensive outlook, but he's a near lock for monster offensive production, and New York has Mitchell Robinson to protect the rim.
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Jonathon Wasserman's latest mock. Knicks get Obi at #6
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2890024-2020-nba-mock-draft-the-mystery-begins-with-the-no-1-spotThere may be pressure on the New York Knicks to draft a point guard at No. 6, but the best player available is still the only priority. Plus, there are enough questions about North Carolina's Cole Anthony to be concerned about giving him the keys to the offense. And while France's Killian Hayes deserves consideration, it's easy to picture the Knicks front office feeling more confident in Obi Toppin, college basketball's Player of the Year.
The Knicks should also have a pick in the late first round (via Los Angeles Clippers) and early second round (via Charlotte Hornets), so they could draft a point guard then or offer a trade package to move up.
Meanwhile, Toppin's explosiveness and expanding skill set may be too tough to pass on in a draft filled with uncertainty. Aside from his elite finishing and solid post play, he's become a promising shooter (39.0 percent 3PT) and nifty passer.
The Knicks know Julius Randle isn't a realistic option to lead the rebuild. Other than age (22), the biggest question mark with Toppin is his defensive outlook, but he's a near lock for monster offensive production, and New York has Mitchell Robinson to protect the rim.Spoiler:
