2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

Kobblehead · Post #441 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed May 6, 2020 9:08 pm

Houston's Nate Hinton intrigues me as a defensive G/F. Good size at 6'5" 210 pounds. He'll probably end up withdrawing because he doesn't have the numbers to gain traction and won't have workouts to build his stock.

Houston was a good team this year with a great defense. Hinton was the driving force for that unit. You could probably get this dude in the late 2nd.

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Kobblehead · Post #442 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 2:12 am

Negrodamus wrote:He’s an incredible defender, but really didn’t do much offensively for us. I don’t think he had the equity to call shots at Calipari despite being a soph. His form is not broken and he shoots like 80% from FT.

I wouldn’t be interested in him. Feel like he should have been a CB instead of trying to go pro in basketball.

You don't think his handle and passing at least gets his foot in the door, offensively, at the next level?

If he can't shoot and is a douchebag, he's probably too much trouble. But he kinda pops on video for me.

No-Man · Post #443 » by **No-Man** » Thu May 7, 2020 8:35 am

How does Anthony's jumper need work? he has the best pull-up by a mile of the high-end Guards, his production shooting wise in AAU is basically historic and unparalleled, he projects well on defense

Kobblehead · Post #444 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 11:20 am

Okay, but he's not Trae Young. His shooting numbers were pretty pedestrian in real basketball games (as opposed to youth pickup games).

Whatever model projects Cole Anthony well on defense probably needs to be reworked. He was pretty bad at UNC on that end. And what's his wingspan going to wind up measuring, like 6'3"-6'4"? He's highly likely to be an offensive-only star in the NBA.

And again, now sure how he's expected to help a team like us win right away. He's going to be working through crappy scoring efficiency, bad defense, bad shot selection, and mediocre passing early in his career. If we really wanted a tiny G with our pick, we could stand pat and get Tre Jones. A guy that worked Cole Anthony this year and is way more ready to contribute to winning basketball.

Kobblehead · Post #445 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 11:26 am

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This game was a clinic by Tre Jones on Cole Anthony.

No-Man · Post #446 » by **No-Man** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:06 pm

Tre is a stud, I really like him

Again, Cole Anthony is the easiest avenue to get a pull-up god for the 76ers, unless you can convince Shane Larkin to come over, doubtful

And the team needs that

No-Man · Post #447 » by **No-Man** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:09 pm

Also his numbers are def not pedestrian shooting wise, no, he couldn't finish and he was pedestrian from mid-range, but he took extra difficult shots at UNC, ton of unassisted ones too, and he hit them well, you'd know if you had access to advanced numbers I guess (?)

If you pair that up with his AAU numbers, FT%, dunno, it's pretty evident that he is a elite shooting prospect

Kobblehead · Post #448 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:32 pm

Why would we want Shane Larkin? He was terrible in the NBA. And it's not like he slipped through the cracks and never got a chance to show what he could do. He played over 256 games in the league over a 4 year stretch.

Kobblehead · Post #449 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:44 pm

Fischella wrote:Also his numbers are def not pedestrian shooting wise, no, he couldn't finish and he was pedestrian from mid-range, but he took extra difficult shots at UNC, ton of unassisted ones too, and he hit them well, you'd know if you had access to advanced numbers I guess (?)

If you pair that up with his AAU numbers, FT%, dunno, it's pretty evident that he is a elite shooting prospect

Or maybe you're just severely overrating his shooting?

34.8% from three
33.3% from midrange
75% from the free throw line

There's nothing elite about his shooting tool. Pretty crazy to evoke that term with pedestrian percentages across the board.

AAU numbers? Seriously...

Kobblehead · Post #450 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:47 pm

If we wanted a pullup god that can't defend or finish that actually does possess elite shooting (unlike Cole Anthony), we could just take Markus Howard in the 2nd round.

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If we're trading up in the draft, it better be for someone that could actually play in crunchtime for a winning team. Cole Anthony might never be that and definitely won't be that during his rookie contract.

No-Man · Post #451 » by **No-Man** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:55 pm

Yes AAU shooting, which is something EVERY NBA franchise uses in their models and yes, 35% from 3 with high volume and difficult attempts is elite

Anthony also has 80s in FT% if you combine NCAA with AAU

Those mid-range numbers are btw from hoop-math, and that site, as useful as it is, and as nice as the guy who runs it is, it's also not separating anything there, between long range floaters, to pull-ups, to whatever attempt you may think of

Synergy does

Kobblehead · Post #452 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 1:58 pm

If we go by AAU numbers, we'll be sitting around forever waiting for Troy Brown Jr. to be the next Penny Hardaway.

No-Man · Post #453 » by **No-Man** » Thu May 7, 2020 2:07 pm

Yeah no, and it ain't just numbers man, the comfortability and form he has on his pull-up is there too

Kobblehead · Post #454 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 2:17 pm

His jumper looks fine. It just doesn't go in that often. Maybe his percentages would improve with better shot discretion. No matter how you slice it, Cole Anthony took a lot of bad shots and put up poor percentages at UNC. There's just no way I can attach "elite" to his shooting tool. He's not Trae Young. He's not Markus Howard.

Kobblehead · Post #455 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 2:21 pm

Also, that piss poor defensive effort during conference play would make Collin Sexton blush.

Negrodamus · Post #456 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu May 7, 2020 3:03 pm

I think being the best player on a blue chip program that's tied in last place in their conference is one of the more disqualifying attributes of his. I always thought he was going to go higher in the draft, so I kinda dismissed him as a prospect for us, but there's no way I'd trade up for him even if he fell some.

Kobblehead · Post #457 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 3:28 pm

I think he's a fine prospect in a general sense. He's a fantastic shotcreater with a decent (not elite) shooting profile. He plays with some nice passion and energy.

Has a lot to prove in terms of whether or not he can be a winning player, though. His scoring efficiency is dogshh, he can't finish, his shot selection is dookie and he's a defensive zero. And he's going to need to improve his distributing rate (although, I don't worry about this as much).

If Hayes, Hampton, Halliburton somehow fall, those are guys I'd trade up for. Or if Vassell is within striking distance of 4-5 picks. Not Cole Anthony. It could be years before that guy is ready to contribute to a winning culture (if ever).

Negrodamus · Post #458 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu May 7, 2020 4:11 pm

Just an aside: Kentucky is going to be legit next year.

Yesterday got 7' Olivier Sarr, transfer from Wake Forest who has serious shooting profile for a center: 76% FT, 40% 2FG jumpers, 66% at the rim (would like to see this higher). Had a bit of a breakout this year scoring 13ppg.

Recently got a commitment from one of the better finishers at the rim in DeAndre Williams from Evansville: 83% at the rim, 49% 2FG jumper, 45% 3FG, 80% FT. Goofy looking shot and obviously against bad competition, but he fits the mold of a SF/PF in Calipari's offense. Gets to the rim, draws fouls.

Then you have the usual blue chip, five star freshmen: BJ Boston, Terrence Clarke, Devin Askew, Isaiah Jackson, Lance Ware

The blend of upperclassmen and freshmen should make for a great season.

Kobblehead · Post #459 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 4:29 pm

Wiseman
Edwards
Ball
Toppin
Avdiji

What even are some of these top fives?

Kobblehead · Post #460 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 7, 2020 4:38 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Just an aside: Kentucky is going to be legit next year.

Yesterday got 7' Olivier Sarr, transfer from Wake Forest who has serious shooting profile for a center: 76% FT, 40% 2FG jumpers, 66% at the rim (would like to see this higher). Had a bit of a breakout this year scoring 13ppg.

Recently got a commitment from one of the better finishers at the rim in DeAndre Williams from Evansville: 83% at the rim, 49% 2FG jumper, 45% 3FG, 80% FT. Goofy looking shot and obviously against bad competition, but he fits the mold of a SF/PF in Calipari's offense. Gets to the rim, draws fouls.

Then you have the usual blue chip, five star freshmen: BJ Boston, Terrence Clarke, Devin Askew, Isaiah Jackson, Lance Ware

The blend of upperclassmen and freshmen should make for a great season.

Man, I don't even know why they took Askew. Clarke's handles are so insane I would let him initiate the entire offense.

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