Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[Kobblehead]

Isn't anyone going to talk about Oladipo in this fantasy trade thread?

Indiana is concerned about the expense of keeping 4 big contracts leaving Oladipo as possibly odd man out.

It's just hard for me to imagine Indiana wanting to break Oladipo into change on the dollar. He's the whole ceiling of their team. If he's made available, I'd think their doctors are completely out on him. In which case, I'd stay far away.

[ankle420breaker]

Oladipo's recent injury is a concern. If he's healthy I'm sure Indy would move mountains to keep him, Brogdon, and Sabonis together. Turner and Warren would be more expendable to them.



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[ankle420breaker]

Rozier could be available with Graham and Monk emerging in Charlotte.

Something like Rozier and Batum for Harris could make sense.

I believe Batum only has one year left on his deal while probably having enough in the tank to contribute as a rotation player.


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[youngcrev]

Isn't anyone going to talk about Oladipo in this fantasy trade thread?

Indiana is concerned about the expense of keeping 4 big contracts leaving Oladipo as possibly odd man out. His addition would address a lot of problems (spacing, matchups, legitimate 2nd or even 1st scoring option) Before I hear the objections I'm willing to gamble that he's healthy and can return to form he just has to knock a lot of rust off.

Richardson (a very nice player on a team friendly contract they can plug right in)
Scott (to match salaries only one year left on his deal.)
OKC first (if necessary)

for Oladipo

Effectively Pacers get to break up Oladipo's money into two manageable contracts with one guy a legitimate starting 2 in Jrich.

Then I do a variation of Kobblehead's deal.

Horford (and change?) for Barnes and Holmes. Sactown (just outside of being a playoff team) improves the on court product with Horford's playmaking, experience and high BBIQ. We get Barnes and high energy Philly fan favorite Holmes to back up (and spot start) for Jo.

Starters
Embiid
Harris (at the 4 where he belongs)
Barnes
Simmons
Oladipo

(Much better balance, fit and scoring punch than before)

Bench

Holmes
Thybulle
Korkmaz
Shake
(and whoever wasn't outgoing change in the above deals)

Solid enough 2nd unit. Add another serviceable big man and a back up PG and let's play ball!

Oladipo is a tough guy to evaluate. His 17/18 breakout season he was awesome, but that seems like an outlier in terms of his scoring efficiency. He took a considerable step down last year and then suffered that major injury.

If he can get back to what he was, he'd be great. Basically an All Star version of Josh. Switchable point of attack defender that be a primary playmaker. Great foundation both offensively and defensively with him, Jo and Ben. Just need to surround those guys with shooting.

That said, a willingness on Indy's end to deal him would concern me, and it would really concern me if that was the best deal on the table for him... But I guess there's really not much risk with what you'd be giving up.

[Kobblehead]

I'd undertake the doofus risk and roll the dice on Rozier. He's a madly inconsistent player with a 10 cent head, but he proved himself to be a big game player during that 2018 ECFs run.

I don't know if we can convince them to take on Harris, but I'd easily offer up Josh Richardson, Mike Scott, and Zhaire Smith. That should get it done.

Josh Richardson kinda sucks.

[Olabikkel]

Rather take Rozier and Zeller in exchange for Harris, and keep Jrich.
Batums stats look pretty terrible.....
Rozier is inconsistent but has upsides and can shoot 3-ball.

Zeller also exp contract and can be Embiid back up, then you could trade Horford hopefully away for something useful.

[youngcrev]

I can see the argument for taking a risk on Rozier if it's a Horford deal and our options are limited, but I wouldn't be targeting him as a player I'm actively pursuing. His shooting numbers were good this year, but he's overpaid, a poor decision maker for a PG, and a switch liability due to his size. If you trust the shot, he's intriguing I guess.

[Kobblehead]

I can see the argument for taking a risk on Rozier if it's a Horford deal and our options are limited, but I wouldn't be targeting him as a player I'm actively pursuing. His shooting numbers were good this year, but he's overpaid, a poor decision maker for a PG, and a switch liability due to his size. If you trust the shot, he's intriguing I guess.

I don't know how much that ever comes to fruition.

Did you see Bucks players attempt to switch onto Lowry and Vanvleet? They were getting stripped at the three point line.

I don't care how big you are, a good point of attack defender is going to remain viable when he's on the court. The only time I think size can be exploited is if the tiny guy is forced to pickup a bigger player in transition and ends up in the paint getting backed down. As long as the defense is set in the halfcourt, I don't think guys like this can be exploited.

Rozier is inconsistent, defensively, but he's a dog when locked in.

[youngcrev]

I can see the argument for taking a risk on Rozier if it's a Horford deal and our options are limited, but I wouldn't be targeting him as a player I'm actively pursuing. His shooting numbers were good this year, but he's overpaid, a poor decision maker for a PG, and a switch liability due to his size. If you trust the shot, he's intriguing I guess.

I don't know how much that ever comes to fruition.

Did you see Bucks players attempt to switch onto Lowry and Vanvleet? They were getting stripped at the three point line.

I don't care how big you are, a good point of attack defender is going to remain viable when he's on the court. The only time I think size can be exploited is if the tiny guy is forced to pickup a bigger player in transition and ends up in the paint getting backed down. As long as the defense is set in the halfcourt, I don't think guys like this can be exploited.

Rozier is inconsistent, defensively, but he's a dog when locked in.

Lowry isn't a target in spite of size because he's a thicky. VanVleet had trouble staying on the floor against the Sixers. I'm guessing the Warriors would have been able to exploit him a bit had they been at full strength.

Rozier has some dog in him, but he's a mediocre, single position defender that isn't much of an offensive player either. The Sixers could use a guy that can make some plays off the bounce and shoot a bit, but he's pretty low on the totem pole of what they should be targeting. Even if you factor out salary I'd probably take one of the UFA PGs that could be in our price range over him (Jackson, Teague)

[76ciology]

Doomsday scenario. The world is going to end in a year and the league is going to play it’s final NBA season. This lead to picks having zero value.

What’s your doomsday scenario trade?

Mine..

Ben for CP3
Josh Richardson for JJ
Al and Thybulle for Blake Griffin

CP3
JJ
Tobias
Blake Griffin
Biid

[Kobblehead]

VanVleet had trouble staying on the floor against the Sixers.

Vanvleet had his minutes reduced against us because he was shooting a WOAT-level 12% from the field. It had nothing to do with him being a defensive liability. He was a defensive menace in that series. He was stripping everyone that tried to dribble in front of or around him. He had a 3.1% steal percentage and 1.7% block percentage against us.

Size doesn't mean anything when it comes to perimeter defense.

[Negrodamus]

Doomsday scenario. The world is going to end in a year and the league is going to play it’s final NBA season. This lead to picks having zero value.

What’s your doomsday scenario trade?

Mine..

Ben for CP3
Josh Richardson for JJ
Al and Thybulle for Blake Griffin

CP3
JJ
Tobias
Blake Griffin
Biid

Lol. If the world doesn't end from the virus, it will end from the supernovae created when CP3, Blake, and JJ drag Embiid into their old soap opera.

[Kobblehead]

trade?

Ben Simmons for Jimmy Butler
Josh Richardson plus whatever for Kyle Lowry

Get Embiid the guys he's always wanted and see what happens lol.

[youngcrev]

VanVleet had trouble staying on the floor against the Sixers.

Vanvleet had his minutes reduced against us because he was shooting a WOAT-level 12% from the field. It had nothing to do with him being a defensive liability. He was a defensive menace in that series. He was stripping everyone that tried to dribble in front of or around him. He had a 3.1% steal percentage and 1.7% block percentage against us.

Size doesn't mean anything when it comes to perimeter defense.

That's fair. Bad Vanvleet take by me. Wasn't really the point of my post though, and doesn't change my opinion on Rozier.

[SparksFly87]

Trade 1.

Buddy Hield for Horford and Zhiare Smith.


Trade 2.

Hield, Barnes for Horford, JRich and M.Scott


Trade Tobias Harris and Zhiare Smith for CJ McCollum



Embiid/ Pelle
Barnes/ ____ /
Simmons/ Thybulle / Shayok
Hield/ Kormaz
CJ / Shake

[Kobblehead]

Rozier is feast or famine in his performances, but we at least know that he possesses the skillset to defend the point of attack, score in the halfcourt, and shoot. It's just a bet on whether or not you're getting him to put his full toolbox on display. And a bet on whether or not you can repress all the terrible decisions he can make throughout the course of games.

If our options of more trustable guys dry up, I'd at least rather try with Rozier than to bring in huge liabilities like the Buddy Hield's of the world.

[Kobblehead]

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[getrichordie]

Hey Wolvians (?)...

How much does Ben Simmons performance concern you this year?

League average TOV% is around 13% and Simmons is turning the ball over @ 20.5% this year.

...

Also, are the Embiid/Simmons compatibility concerns real?

Synergy stats say they are. They have a Synergy score of -2.48...

Out of all the players who have played >1k possessions, Embiid and Simmons have the worst synergy.

[76ciology]

Hey Wolvians (?)...

How much does Ben Simmons performance concern you this year?

League average TOV% is around 13% and Simmons is turning the ball over @ 20.5% this year.

...

Also, are the Embiid/Simmons compatibility concerns real?

Synergy stats say they are. They have a Synergy score of -2.48...

Out of all the players who have played >1k possessions, Embiid and Simmons have the worst synergy.

True. Nobody is saying that they are good fits. This is why we need A LOT of talent than others. I mean, we probably have the most talented roster in the league. From the starting unit to the bench.

But this is the card we’re dealt with. And we’re enjoying this journey.

P.S. if you can suggest any trade with an equal return for either one of them, we’re open to it

[76ciology]

Doomsday scenario. The world is going to end in a year and the league is going to play it’s final NBA season. This lead to picks having zero value.

What’s your doomsday scenario trade?

Mine..

Ben for CP3
Josh Richardson for JJ
Al and Thybulle for Blake Griffin

CP3
JJ
Tobias
Blake Griffin
Biid

Lol. If the world doesn't end from the virus, it will end from the supernovae created when CP3, Blake, and JJ drag Embiid into their old soap opera.