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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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13%
Scoring Guard
38
62%
Great Shooter
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18%
3&D Wing
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7%
 
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Post#341 » by yoyojw17 » Sun May 3, 2020 12:46 pm

zaymon wrote:Anyone has thoughts about Bolmaro ? He seems like a serious prospect maybe even in our range.

Very good handle, creative passer and tenacious defender.

I have been a little lower on Nesmith recently, not so sure on Bey either.

what would make you lower on Nesmith? Just lookin for the enlightenment. in case i'm missing something. thanks
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Post#342 » by zaymon » Sun May 3, 2020 1:50 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
zaymon wrote:Anyone has thoughts about Bolmaro ? He seems like a serious prospect maybe even in our range.

Very good handle, creative passer and tenacious defender.

I have been a little lower on Nesmith recently, not so sure on Bey either.

what would make you lower on Nesmith? Just lookin for the enlightenment. in case i'm missing something. thanks

He is not versatile offensively, his handle is limited, and his passing is worrisome. He is not the most athletic guy, and his defense is average for the length he has. I dont think he will be as good as Ross, and becouse of his limitations i dont think it will be ideal to play them together. I like Desmond Bane more right now.
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Post#343 » by bigshawn » Sun May 3, 2020 4:15 pm

Ty Terry looks legit. I don't know how he defends, but count me in for him or the FSU cat.
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Post#344 » by MasterGMer » Sun May 3, 2020 7:06 pm

Which position is our biggest need? Back up PG or SF?
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Post#345 » by Patrick1978 » Sun May 3, 2020 7:14 pm

bigshawn wrote:Ty Terry looks legit. I don't know how he defends, but count me in for him or the FSU cat.


Do not know much about Terry.
Is he good?

Who is the FSU cat?

Kira Lewis would be great for the Magic.
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Post#346 » by yoyojw17 » Mon May 4, 2020 12:58 am

zaymon wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:
zaymon wrote:Anyone has thoughts about Bolmaro ? He seems like a serious prospect maybe even in our range.

Very good handle, creative passer and tenacious defender.

I have been a little lower on Nesmith recently, not so sure on Bey either.

what would make you lower on Nesmith? Just lookin for the enlightenment. in case i'm missing something. thanks

He is not versatile offensively, his handle is limited, and his passing is worrisome. He is not the most athletic guy, and his defense is average for the length he has. I dont think he will be as good as Ross, and becouse of his limitations i dont think it will be ideal to play them together. I like Desmond Bane more right now.


Haven't watched any of his games... and I'm relegated to just youtube videos and stats... from what I've seen... He's obviously ELITE from beyond the arc.... and average to above average on making plays off of closeouts or in transition. Though he might not seem to have the ball on a string.... he does have the needed moves to get his shot off from the three and in. His size is great and I think he'll be fine on the defense. .9 blks and 1.4 steals for a primary scorer is pretty good. And as a primary scorer and shooter... the ball might typically end in his hands because he can get his shot off with his movement without the ball. and at 52% shooting.... he deserves that green light, leading to smaller assist numbers. He could become that ideal 3 and D player.... while still having the potential to be much much more. But.... we never know how everything translates to the NBA. :-) will check out some of your suggestions too! thanks man
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Post#347 » by zaymon » Tue May 5, 2020 1:17 pm

I think Tyler Bey could be the winner of Weltmans man award

My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#348 » by Skybox » Tue May 5, 2020 11:58 pm

Man, I don't even want to hear about wingspan and D until they clear the 3pt% filter
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Post#349 » by yoyojw17 » Wed May 6, 2020 2:18 am

Skybox wrote:Man, I don't even want to hear about wingspan and D until they clear the 3pt% filter

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Aaron Nesmith. lol JK.... but for real though.... i'mma be on that train for a while. ChooChoo
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Post#350 » by drsd » Wed May 6, 2020 12:11 pm

MasterGMer wrote:Which position is our biggest need? Back up PG or SF?


The answer to this question depends on i) Fournier and Ennis with their option decisions, respectively.

For me; the Magic would be best served to select a combo guard or a combo wing. Josh Green, RJ Hampton, and Tyrese Maxey are the sorts of players that could make sense.

Of course: this asset can simply be traded as Orlando already has a rookie this coming season.
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Post#351 » by Tarheel » Wed May 6, 2020 12:26 pm

I think we'll trade our pick for a few reasons:

1. Chuma returning for next year (Weltman has said historically that they don't want too many rookies on the roster at once);
2. fewer chances to scout/interview etc due to lockdown (this increases the risk of prospects against reward and our FO hates risk); and
3. our pick has the chance to be quite valuable in this draft as it is quite deep with good role playing level talent around the middle of the first round.

I could see it being packaged with AG for a wing player. If it isn't, there will be a number of good guard/wing prospects available where we pick that could slot in and fill a role for us immediately.
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Post#352 » by Hogified05 » Fri May 8, 2020 2:25 pm

What about Cassius Stanley? I admittedly didn't see many Duke games this year plus the year being cut short but when I did see them play he had a better stroke then I anticipated. I also didn't realize he was 6'6. I thought he was more around 6'3/6'4 range that just played bigger because he is a freak athlete. That's really good size for a 2 guard. Plus be another fun dunker on the team ha. Draft him, with no pressure let him back up Evan see if his skills can catch up to his athleticism. His shot looks smooth which is a good start.

Or not to be Duke heavy I hate them...but Vernon Carey? Dude is skilled at 6'10. Could be insurance in case we decide to trade Vuc and Mo flames out. Dude competed hard. His floor is no worse then 10 years as a quality big man in the league to me. Doesn't hurt to have a skilled big man coming off the bench at worst. His ceiling a Chris Bosh type all star to me. Plus I think Isaac erases his lack of length.

The thing about either one is I've seen a couple mocks that have them going at the back of the 1st round. Feel like we could trade back for one of them. Not having the tourney probably really hurt their stock especially Carey. I think he would have had a big tourney.
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Post#354 » by Bensational » Sun May 10, 2020 12:52 am

Kira Lewis is fast moving up my board. Might be my top pick in our range right now. 6'5 lead ball handler with a nice dribble and great at rocking his defender off foot before making a move. He hits the 3 well and makes nice passes.

A Fultz/Lewis backcourt could be nice and dynamic with dual playmakers who both have good size for the 1 and 2.
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Post#355 » by Bensational » Sun May 10, 2020 5:40 am

Bensational wrote:Kira Lewis is fast moving up my board. Might be my top pick in our range right now. 6'5 lead ball handler with a nice dribble and great at rocking his defender off foot before making a move. He hits the 3 well and makes nice passes.


Check this scouting video on him:



Look at those gorgeous scooping layups! Look at that hang time! He just seems to find ways to stay up in the air longer than his opponent, and he can get some great separation because of that. His drive and dish game is strong, which would be good for a perimeter starved team.

His game is up and down right now, looking at his splits for this season.

The big difference between W's and L's is his efficiency. They're both split pretty evenly, with 16 W's and 15 L's. Over this 16 wins, he shot a blazing 46% from 3 on 4.1 attempts. In L's, he shoots 30% on 5.8 attempts. In fact, the numbers suggest that when he's not shooting well then he forces shots, and a lot more of them, and that likely kills the flow of the offense - because most other stats are consistent across the board.

Here are Donovan Mitchell's sophomore splits, for comparison. Similarly big gulfs between W's and L's, but Lewis' numbers are more impressive offensively, in general.

Lewis reminds me of some kind of Fox/Mitchell fusion. His TO's are way too high across the board, but that could be lightened if he's sharing playmaking with Fultz. But most of all, the kid looks like a natural scorer with strong enough handles to get where he wants, and a developing perimeter shot.

He has now become my early call for steal of the draft. The Mitchell/SGA of this draft.
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Post#356 » by VFX » Sun May 10, 2020 5:52 am

Bensational wrote:
Bensational wrote:Kira Lewis is fast moving up my board. Might be my top pick in our range right now. 6'5 lead ball handler with a nice dribble and great at rocking his defender off foot before making a move. He hits the 3 well and makes nice passes.


Check this scouting video on him:



Look at those gorgeous scooping layups! Look at that hang time! He just seems to find ways to stay up in the air longer than his opponent, and he can get some great separation because of that. His drive and dish game is strong, which would be good for a perimeter starved team.

His game is up and down right now, looking at his splits for this season.

The big difference between W's and L's is his efficiency. They're both split pretty evenly, with 16 W's and 15 L's. Over this 16 wins, he shot a blazing 46% from 3 on 4.1 attempts. In L's, he shoots 30% on 5.8 attempts. In fact, the numbers suggest that when he's not shooting well then he forces shots, and a lot more of them, and that likely kills the flow of the offense - because most other stats are consistent across the board.

Here are Donovan Mitchell's sophomore splits, for comparison. Similarly big gulfs between W's and L's, but Lewis' numbers are more impressive offensively, in general.

Lewis reminds me of some kind of Fox/Mitchell fusion. His TO's are way too high across the board, but that could be lightened if he's sharing playmaking with Fultz. But most of all, the kid looks like a natural scorer with strong enough handles to get where he wants, and a developing perimeter shot.

He has now become my early call for steal of the draft. The Mitchell/SGA of this draft.


If WeHam chose a 6’3 combo guard I’d be absolutely shocked. That being said, I think Lewis has a chance to be a solid player.
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Post#357 » by Bensational » Sun May 10, 2020 6:12 am

MagicMatic wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Bensational wrote:Kira Lewis is fast moving up my board. Might be my top pick in our range right now. 6'5 lead ball handler with a nice dribble and great at rocking his defender off foot before making a move. He hits the 3 well and makes nice passes.


Check this scouting video on him:



Look at those gorgeous scooping layups! Look at that hang time! He just seems to find ways to stay up in the air longer than his opponent, and he can get some great separation because of that. His drive and dish game is strong, which would be good for a perimeter starved team.

His game is up and down right now, looking at his splits for this season.

The big difference between W's and L's is his efficiency. They're both split pretty evenly, with 16 W's and 15 L's. Over this 16 wins, he shot a blazing 46% from 3 on 4.1 attempts. In L's, he shoots 30% on 5.8 attempts. In fact, the numbers suggest that when he's not shooting well then he forces shots, and a lot more of them, and that likely kills the flow of the offense - because most other stats are consistent across the board.

Here are Donovan Mitchell's sophomore splits, for comparison. Similarly big gulfs between W's and L's, but Lewis' numbers are more impressive offensively, in general.

Lewis reminds me of some kind of Fox/Mitchell fusion. His TO's are way too high across the board, but that could be lightened if he's sharing playmaking with Fultz. But most of all, the kid looks like a natural scorer with strong enough handles to get where he wants, and a developing perimeter shot.

He has now become my early call for steal of the draft. The Mitchell/SGA of this draft.


If WeHam chose a 6’3 combo guard I’d be absolutely shocked. That being said, I think Lewis has a chance to be a solid player.


Hmm, I'd read he was 6'5 early on, and everything since has him listed at 6'3. So he's a 1, on defense at least.

They could give him a look with DJ becoming a FA and Evan's future free agency. Lewis off the bench year 1, running 2nd unit. See if he looks good enough to replace either of Fultz or Fournier.

The kid looks very promising, too. He's also very young for his year, and younger than most of the Freshman in this draft class. He only just turned 19 a couple weeks ago.
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Post#358 » by pepe1991 » Sun May 10, 2020 10:12 am

I really like Tyrese Haliburton, i don't think he would struggle that much if he plays some time off ball. Guy can flat out shoot, is 6'5 , versitale...
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Post#359 » by zaymon » Sun May 10, 2020 11:55 am

pepe1991 wrote:I really like Tyrese Haliburton, i don't think he would struggle that much if he plays some time off ball. Guy can flat out shoot, is 6'5 , versitale...

It suprises me you are not higher on Pokusevski and Bolmaro. Haliburton is propably outside our range, but these two have higher upside imo. If i wanted a bigger shooter i would lean towards Saddiq Bey or Desmond Bane. I am quite excited about our pick, great chance to show some skills for Weltman and Hammond. I am quite certain there is an allstar outside lottery, and we have the best shot to grab him.
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Post#360 » by Bensational » Sun May 10, 2020 12:35 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I really like Tyrese Haliburton, i don't think he would struggle that much if he plays some time off ball. Guy can flat out shoot, is 6'5 , versitale...


Do you think they'll try correct his shot and get him jumping more once he hits the pros? He's not the most graceful scorer to watch, but he certainly a scorer. Such a huge difference between his hop-shot 3pts and some of his more explosive dunks - kid can get up at times!

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