2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

[Kobblehead]

I think of all the freshman in the country, only Okongwu and Green could be dropped into this year's playoffs and play big minutes at a respectable degree and help a winning situation.

I think Patrick Williams could provide us actual minutes as a sub for Harris. I feel like our focus should be to defend Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron and he fits that fluidity, length, and defensive awareness while not really sacrificing a 3&D ability. If you give him one job, he could have been a good fit for us this year with potential long term expansion of skills.

Williams' skillset is definitely in the mold of an early contributor. My cause for pause with him is his lack of experience. No collegiate starts and only 22.5 mpg of action. In this made up fantasy scenario of dropping freshman into the NBA playoffs, he might be a little too inexperienced.

I'm actually kind of curious of this. One-&-done 6th men. The handful of guys that I can think of took a while to get going in the NBA.

Marvin Williams
Zach Lavine
Zach Collins

Devin Booker seems like the one guy that hit the ground running pretty fast. And him being a 6th man was a pretty unprecedented circumstance. That Kentucky roster was generationally loaded.

[Negrodamus]

I think Patrick Williams could provide us actual minutes as a sub for Harris. I feel like our focus should be to defend Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron and he fits that fluidity, length, and defensive awareness while not really sacrificing a 3&D ability. If you give him one job, he could have been a good fit for us this year with potential long term expansion of skills.

Williams' skillset is definitely in the mold of an early contributor. My cause for pause with him is his lack of experience. No collegiate starts and only 22.5 mpg of action. In this made up fantasy scenario of dropping freshman into the NBA playoffs, he might be a little too inexperienced.

I'm actually kind of curious of this. One-&-done 6th men. The handful of guys that I can think of took a while to get going in the NBA.

Marvin Williams
Zach Lavine
Zach Collins

Devin Booker seems like the one guy that hit the ground running pretty fast. And him being a 6th man was a pretty unprecedented circumstance. That Kentucky roster was generationally loaded.

I suppose that is true. Trey Lyles could be part of that list too but I would hesitate to say he was a major contributor in his rookie year. I don't quite know the circumstances behind why he was off the bench at FSU when they were a team that lacked quality size and he was producing as a top 4, arguably top 3, player on less minutes per game.

[Negrodamus]

While we're on the subject of FSU, on top of the list I compiled, I would put Trent Forrest as a potential pick in the second round. Too good of an all around player to ignore.

[Kobblehead]

Forrest has such an awesome skillset. I think we could be a likely landing spot for him, given that our selection of Thybulle suggests we don't care about college production. I wouldn't mind if we lined up our entire backcourt with brickhouse defensive studs like Skylar Mays and Trent Forrest. With all due respect to Korkmaz, Milton, Shayok, etc. Those guys just don't bring it enough defensively. I much prefer the Raptors model (Lowry, VanVleet, Powell...Wright before that and now Davis). Mays and Forrest are selections along that line of thought.

[Kobblehead]

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R.J. Hampton is so clearly the 2nd best player in this draft behind Killian Hayes, for me. Elite speed and quickness to go along with his handle and defense. And he's like 6'5".

[youngWizzy]

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[Kobblehead]

Sergi Martinez seems like a fantastic stash selection.

6'7" 220 pound 21 year old with a really strong two-way game.

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[Negrodamus]

I have a strong feeling that if we don’t trade up for a player, we’re going to be stashing the “best” intl prospect at that point in the draft. I know we still have Colangelo remnants making decisions.

[Negrodamus]

Hello everybody,

Tool: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com

I recently developed an NBA Draft Comparison tool that has gained a good amount of popularity on Twitter by several draft analysts

The tool retrieves similar physical, statistical (per40), and advanced stat comparisons for any player dating back to the 2000 NBA Draft based on their position

Note: Advanced stats only go back to the 2011 Draft and there are currently only limited physical comparisons for some of the 2020 prospects as the combine hasn't reported official measurements. Additionally, if you cannot find a player in the stats, visuals, or advanced pages you can enter their sports-reference url and the site will generate the comparisons then.

If you end up seeing this, any feedback/comments/suggestions that you have or would like me to add a feature to the website is something that I'd appreciate a whole lot. You can dm me here but preferable on twitter:youngwizzydfs and I will respond asap.

The experience is a lot better on desktop/laptop than mobile which is something I am working on right now

If you don't mind sharing the tool with your friends and people that would mean a whole lot as it could lead to potential donations to my site that will help keep it up! Been working on this for a few years now so it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride!

Per 40 stat comparison can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/stats




Advanced stat comparisons can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/advanced



​
Physical comparisons can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/measurements




​A visualizations page which visualizes how a player compares to their position can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/visuals




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Don't know if it's just on my end, but it seems the search no longer works. Very interesting idea. Are you using a sports reference API or some web scraper repo?

[Kobblehead]

I have a strong feeling that if we don’t trade up for a player, we’re going to be stashing the “best” intl prospect at that point in the draft. I know we still have Colangelo remnants making decisions.

That would be dissapointing for our 2021 playoff push, but there are some strong stash candidates that could be a huge boost to us down the line.

[youngWizzy]

Hello everybody,

Tool: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com

I recently developed an NBA Draft Comparison tool that has gained a good amount of popularity on Twitter by several draft analysts

The tool retrieves similar physical, statistical (per40), and advanced stat comparisons for any player dating back to the 2000 NBA Draft based on their position

Note: Advanced stats only go back to the 2011 Draft and there are currently only limited physical comparisons for some of the 2020 prospects as the combine hasn't reported official measurements. Additionally, if you cannot find a player in the stats, visuals, or advanced pages you can enter their sports-reference url and the site will generate the comparisons then.

If you end up seeing this, any feedback/comments/suggestions that you have or would like me to add a feature to the website is something that I'd appreciate a whole lot. You can dm me here but preferable on twitter:youngwizzydfs and I will respond asap.

The experience is a lot better on desktop/laptop than mobile which is something I am working on right now

If you don't mind sharing the tool with your friends and people that would mean a whole lot as it could lead to potential donations to my site that will help keep it up! Been working on this for a few years now so it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride!

Per 40 stat comparison can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/stats




Advanced stat comparisons can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/advanced



​
Physical comparisons can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/measurements




​A visualizations page which visualizes how a player compares to their position can be found here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/visuals




​

Don't know if it's just on my end, but it seems the search no longer works. Very interesting idea. Are you using a sports reference API or some web scraper repo?

The search seems to be working just fine not sure what might be wrong for you? I scraped my own data to create a database which I then use to generate comparisons using an algorithm I wrote. Sports-reference api is used for a player you can't find in the database, hence why you have to enter their sports-reference url if they arent in,

[Negrodamus]

Don't know if it's just on my end, but it seems the search no longer works. Very interesting idea. Are you using a sports reference API or some web scraper repo?

The search seems to be working just fine not sure what might be wrong for you? I scraped my own data to create a database which I then use to generate comparisons using an algorithm I wrote. Sports-reference api is used for a player you can't find in the database, hence why you have to enter their sports-reference url if they arent in,[/quote]

My mistake, I was looking for a prospect solely with their name and not their sports reference page. When I pasted it in, it worked.

That said, liking the prospects that come up with similar stats for my guys Saben Lee (DSJ, Collin Sexton, Grant Riller) and Mason Jones (Ja Morant, Grant Riller, Spencer Dinwiddie).

I like the site, thanks for sharing!

[youngWizzy]

Don't know if it's just on my end, but it seems the search no longer works. Very interesting idea. Are you using a sports reference API or some web scraper repo?

The search seems to be working just fine not sure what might be wrong for you? I scraped my own data to create a database which I then use to generate comparisons using an algorithm I wrote. Sports-reference api is used for a player you can't find in the database, hence why you have to enter their sports-reference url if they arent in,

My mistake, I was looking for a prospect solely with their name and not their sports reference page. When I pasted it in, it worked.

That said, liking the prospects that come up with similar stats for my guys Saben Lee (DSJ, Collin Sexton, Grant Riller) and Mason Jones (Ja Morant, Grant Riller, Spencer Dinwiddie).

I like the site, thanks for sharing![/quote]

Of course! If you can help me get the site out to your friends and people that would mean a whole lot for me! I got some cool projects coming out soon including stuff with player tracking and shot charts but the data feeds are probably going to cost a lot sadly. You guys keep me motivated tho

[Negrodamus]

Forrest has such an awesome skillset. I think we could be a likely landing spot for him, given that our selection of Thybulle suggests we don't care about college production. I wouldn't mind if we lined up our entire backcourt with brickhouse defensive studs like Skylar Mays and Trent Forrest. With all due respect to Korkmaz, Milton, Shayok, etc. Those guys just don't bring it enough defensively. I much prefer the Raptors model (Lowry, VanVleet, Powell...Wright before that and now Davis). Mays and Forrest are selections along that line of thought.

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If he could get his three point shot down purely as a catch and shoot, he can really be a nice role player.

[Negrodamus]

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I know this is the "Improvement Areas" video so it lays on thick the weaknesses, but 37.5% around the rim in the half court is truly awful in terms of projecting him as a scorer in the next level. It's not like he's even a skinny 19 year old with a short wingspan. The more I've watched of him, the more concerned I get.

[Kobblehead]

If you're projecting Josh Green as a scorer at the next level, he's going to grade out terribly.

His role at Arizona was very similar to Zhaire Smith's role at Texas Tech. Smallball PF. Except Green has more stretch ability and is a stronger defender on the ball than Zhaire was.

Just picture Green as a championship caliber role player. A big, strong, long athlete that defends the point of attack and hits assisted threes without wanting or needing the ball.

[Negrodamus]

Yea, but I'd still rather grab a guy who has a ceiling of being a scorer at the next level. I feel like most championship level wing role players were at one point looked at as potential stars. Clippers have Lou Williams. Kuzma and KCP both had big scoring upside. Eric Bledsoe for the Bucks.

I'd rather just be spectacularly wrong on an all around scorers later in the first round than get a role player who usually doesn't come into his own until his second or third team.

[Negrodamus]

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Pretty interesting side by side.

[Negrodamus]

Just watched an abridged version of FSU vs Duke. Forrest had not only Tre Jones's number, but all of Duke. FSU was pretty poorly coached though.

[Kobblehead]

Yea, but I'd still rather grab a guy who has a ceiling of being a scorer at the next level. I feel like most championship level wing role players were at one point looked at as potential stars. Clippers have Lou Williams. Kuzma and KCP both had big scoring upside. Eric Bledsoe for the Bucks.

I'd rather just be spectacularly wrong on an all around scorers later in the first round than get a role player who usually doesn't come into his own until his second or third team.

Yeah, but what are the odds of one of these late first creators being postseason playable? And the pool of these guys that possess winning skillsets is shallow. Do we honestly see Nico Mannion, Kira Lewis, Saddiq Bey, or Tyrese Maxey holding up defensively on a deep playoff run?

I really like Tre Jones. Devon Dotson is very intriguing to me, too. These guys are really tiny, though. And despite not having any of their 1-on-1 abilities, Josh Green was able to match/exceed their age 19 production in the same amount of minutes.

I just think if we want a creator, we should trade up for a worthy one (R.J. Hampton, for instance).