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2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4)

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#401 » by Richard4444 » Sun May 10, 2020 1:13 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Just because Lonzo fixes his shot doesn’t mean that LaMelo will fix his. Just because they’re brothers? lol


You cant minimize the power of genes!!!

By the way, lets sign Kostas and Thanasis...

Diangelo too...
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#402 » by HerSports85 » Sun May 10, 2020 1:38 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Knicks making a play for LaMelo always made a lot of sense. Not sure Chad Ford has any sources other then just putting 1+1 = 2 together.

Would love to get LaMelo somehow, but def not trading next years pick unprotected. Cade looks like the real deal, and some other intriguing prospects.


Most I’m willing to trade is both 2020 FRPs and Dallas 2023 FRP or top 10 protected 2022 FRP

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#403 » by HEZI » Sun May 10, 2020 1:40 am

No trading up for Melo. Just stay at 6 Knicks

Cole or Haliburton will be there
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#404 » by robillionaire » Sun May 10, 2020 1:41 am

Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Just because Lonzo fixes his shot doesn’t mean that LaMelo will fix his. Just because they’re brothers? lol


You cant minimize the power of genes!!!

By the way, lets sign Kostas and Thanasis...

Diangelo too...


the thing about that analogy is that we are getting the best brother
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#405 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 10, 2020 2:10 am

robillionaire wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Just because Lonzo fixes his shot doesn’t mean that LaMelo will fix his. Just because they’re brothers? lol


You cant minimize the power of genes!!!

By the way, lets sign Kostas and Thanasis...

Diangelo too...


the thing about that analogy is that we are getting the best brother


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Post#406 » by RHODEY » Sun May 10, 2020 4:55 am

HEZI wrote:No trading up for Melo. Just stay at 6 Knicks

Cole or Haliburton will be there

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#407 » by RHODEY » Sun May 10, 2020 5:02 am



from "stopidvideos"

These comments are a joke and I can´t wait to come back next year and tell you guys I told you so. Besides not finishing well with his right this kid has NO weaknesses. Honestly think he will have a better year efficiency wise than pretty much any PG out the draft, dude was a borderline 50/30/90 player at 18 against pros. Btw KP put up 12/4/1/1 in the Eurocup where as Killian put up 12/6/2/2 with a nearly 20% higher FT% (which indicates shooting better than 3pt%). Anyone who thinks Cole or Haliburton is better than Killian, plz learn scouting before you make dumb takes like that. Besides Lamelo and Edwards nobody should be in front of Killian on our big board, I am sorry.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#408 » by HEZI » Sun May 10, 2020 5:21 am

RHODEY wrote:
HEZI wrote:No trading up for Melo. Just stay at 6 Knicks

Cole or Haliburton will be there

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#409 » by HEZI » Sun May 10, 2020 5:24 am

RHODEY wrote:

from "stopidvideos"

These comments are a joke and I can´t wait to come back next year and tell you guys I told you so. Besides not finishing well with his right this kid has NO weaknesses. Honestly think he will have a better year efficiency wise than pretty much any PG out the draft, dude was a borderline 50/30/90 player at 18 against pros. Btw KP put up 12/4/1/1 in the Eurocup where as Killian put up 12/6/2/2 with a nearly 20% higher FT% (which indicates shooting better than 3pt%). Anyone who thinks Cole or Haliburton is better than Killian, plz learn scouting before you make dumb takes like that. Besides Lamelo and Edwards nobody should be in front of Killian on our big board, I am sorry.


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#410 » by newyorker4ever » Sun May 10, 2020 6:04 am

RHODEY wrote:

from "stopidvideos"

These comments are a joke and I can´t wait to come back next year and tell you guys I told you so. Besides not finishing well with his right this kid has NO weaknesses. Honestly think he will have a better year efficiency wise than pretty much any PG out the draft, dude was a borderline 50/30/90 player at 18 against pros. Btw KP put up 12/4/1/1 in the Eurocup where as Killian put up 12/6/2/2 with a nearly 20% higher FT% (which indicates shooting better than 3pt%). Anyone who thinks Cole or Haliburton is better than Killian, plz learn scouting before you make dumb takes like that. Besides Lamelo and Edwards nobody should be in front of Killian on our big board, I am sorry.


The problem is nobody knows how any of their games will translate to the NBA game. It's a different game played at a different pace and you just never know how any of these kids will adjust to it which is obviously why multiple lottery picks and 1st round picks end up busting every year.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#411 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 10, 2020 6:08 am

newyorker4ever wrote:
RHODEY wrote:

from "stopidvideos"

These comments are a joke and I can´t wait to come back next year and tell you guys I told you so. Besides not finishing well with his right this kid has NO weaknesses. Honestly think he will have a better year efficiency wise than pretty much any PG out the draft, dude was a borderline 50/30/90 player at 18 against pros. Btw KP put up 12/4/1/1 in the Eurocup where as Killian put up 12/6/2/2 with a nearly 20% higher FT% (which indicates shooting better than 3pt%). Anyone who thinks Cole or Haliburton is better than Killian, plz learn scouting before you make dumb takes like that. Besides Lamelo and Edwards nobody should be in front of Killian on our big board, I am sorry.


The problem is nobody knows how any of their games will translate to the NBA game. It's a different game played at a different pace and you just never know how any of these kids will adjust to it which is obviously why multiple lottery picks and 1st round picks end up busting every year.



... except for Haliburton
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#412 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun May 10, 2020 2:20 pm

HEZI wrote:
RHODEY wrote:

from "stopidvideos"

These comments are a joke and I can´t wait to come back next year and tell you guys I told you so. Besides not finishing well with his right this kid has NO weaknesses. Honestly think he will have a better year efficiency wise than pretty much any PG out the draft, dude was a borderline 50/30/90 player at 18 against pros. Btw KP put up 12/4/1/1 in the Eurocup where as Killian put up 12/6/2/2 with a nearly 20% higher FT% (which indicates shooting better than 3pt%). Anyone who thinks Cole or Haliburton is better than Killian, plz learn scouting before you make dumb takes like that. Besides Lamelo and Edwards nobody should be in front of Killian on our big board, I am sorry.


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#413 » by malik959 » Sun May 10, 2020 4:50 pm

That's what scares me about Melo. He played in a league where NBA bust like Josh Boone go because they couldn't hack it in the NBA. Than becomes one of the worst shooters in that league. We're stuck with a team who has multiple capable shooters yet they barely shoot 33% from 3. We say every day that their shots will improve, and yes they are capable, but Melo's shot is worse than theirs and they get dogged every day. You guys are going to kill this kid especially if we give up picks to get him.

No way in helz do I trade up for for a guy whose only positive is his passing. He has bust written all over him, I'd rather continue with DSJ over trading up for Melo.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#414 » by knickstape4ever » Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm

I want to come out of this draft with 1 of Nesmith, Bey, or Vassell; would have to trade up from #27 or acquire another 1st by taking on salary (which they should 100% do)

tbh, I prefer all 3 of Nesmith, Bey, and Vassell to Knox; I just don't see it with Knox
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#415 » by robillionaire » Sun May 10, 2020 7:58 pm

knox is younger than nesmith and 2 years younger than bey fwiw, not that it means he will be any better in year 3 just pointing that out. but yeah I'm not sure if any of those guys make it to 27, safe to say vassell won't, it's possible with nesmith or bey but probably not. would need to trade up

I just don't think it's worth trading up from 27 because I feel like some talented players are pretty much guaranteed to fall to that spot and they're all more or less on the same tier

if i was going to go after one of them it would be vassell
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#416 » by Oscirus » Sun May 10, 2020 8:25 pm

**** a move up will cost way more than what people are currently offering.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#417 » by WargamesX » Sun May 10, 2020 8:49 pm

The only asset I think wouldn't be that bad to give up is the Mavs 2023 pick because of the protections. However, that was before I heard about the cap. Now that the cap is going down/frozen picks are going to be worth more until contracts balance out. We could probably move up this draft just by taking on salary alone.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#418 » by knickstape4ever » Sun May 10, 2020 9:25 pm

I don't think the cost to move up from 27 to the teens would be too much; in 2017 the Jazz traded #24 and Trey Lyles for #13. Lyles was coming off a rough year 2

it's also possible that a team looking to shed salary would swap or even trade away their pick to do so
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#419 » by F N 11 » Sun May 10, 2020 9:28 pm

Hayes potentially could be a two way Deangelo.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#420 » by knickstape4ever » Sun May 10, 2020 9:41 pm

I could see the Magic look to trade away their 1st (or trade down); they're over the cap and still have to sign their 1st round pick from last season, Chuma Okeke
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