Packers 2020 Offseason Thread - Packers Talking Extension with Aaron Jones

[MAC1987]

Well, with AROD is there a possibility his contract can be restructured to sign our guys?

Yeah, we are screwed next year covid messes up the cap. With all the free agents coming up next year, I don't think we can't sign anyone.

I am really holding out hope we can retain at least Bakh (hoping last year was just a bad year) or Clark. I already assume King and Jones are gone.

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For one he just restructured not to long ago

Secondly unless its a strait paycut he'd be accepting it would just be extending his guarantees into the final 2 years of his deal. (Something I'm sure the Packers have little interest in doing post Love selection)

And finally Rodgers accepting a paycut would be extremely suprising considering he was pretty vocal about wanting a new deal when he felt underpaid (there's a reason why he got an extension when he had multiple years left) and I'm sure he isn't more open to the idea of a paycut post draft

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Makes sense. if the NFL cap struggles in short term, might be good to move some of the money to a later year with the hopes of the cap increasing rhe following year.


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[M-C-G]

Well, with AROD is there a possibility his contract can be restructured to sign our guys?

Yeah, we are screwed next year covid messes up the cap. With all the free agents coming up next year, I don't think we can't sign anyone.

I am really holding out hope we can retain at least Bakh (hoping last year was just a bad year) or Clark. I already assume King and Jones are gone.

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For one he just restructured not to long ago

Secondly unless its a strait paycut he'd be accepting it would just be extending his guarantees into the final 2 years of his deal. (Something I'm sure the Packers have little interest in doing post Love selection)

And finally Rodgers accepting a paycut would be extremely suprising considering he was pretty vocal about wanting a new deal when he felt underpaid (there's a reason why he got an extension when he had multiple years left) and I'm sure he isn't more open to the idea of a paycut post draft

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Yeah, I don't see a restructure happening, I think most likely scenario;
1. We have a two year out in the contract according to spotrac, with 14M hit in the first year we move/cut and 3M in the second
2. He plays one year and we trade him and as I recall from a PFT article it would somehow actually open up 5M in cap if we time it right
3.He plays three years and we move on with minimal cap damage
4. He play out all four years

If I was putting money on it, I think two years is about right, but certainly won't be shocked if he wants a trade after this season. I see about a 1% chance he plays out this contract

[jakecronus8]

Three years makes the most sense to me. I think that’s what Green Bay’s hope is, at least.

[Profound23]

It is hard to speculate on how long to hold on to Aaron. If he regresses this year as much as he has the last 3 years, I am not sure how much longer anyone will want him on the team. The guy just hasn't looked the same since his last injury.

[Profound23]

You stop making sense

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Yeah, we are screwed next year covid messes up the cap. With all the free agents coming up next year, I don't think we can't sign anyone.

I am really holding out hope we can retain at least Bakh (hoping last year was just a bad year) or Clark. I already assume King and Jones are gone.

King gets hurt wiping his own ass as much as think he can be a top flight corner i think for the amount of money he has in his head that he wants i think the packers let him walk.
As for warford dude would look great at guard in GB as another poster said i hope they at least talk to his agent and do the noble TT thing and that is kick the tires.
Maybe im wrong probably am but if they really wanted to sign him they could make it work.Andrew brandt evrn mentioned that in a article

Not the biggest King fan. I think he is comparable to what we had at ILB with Barnett.....problem is he is our 2nd best CB and Josh Jackson hasn't been as good as I thought he would be.

I'm honestly shocked we didn't go CB, DT, RB knowing we won't be able to re-sign most of our free agents next year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with Love....just thought that was the route they would go to pinch pennies.

[RRyder823]

Yeah, we are screwed next year covid messes up the cap. With all the free agents coming up next year, I don't think we can't sign anyone.

I am really holding out hope we can retain at least Bakh (hoping last year was just a bad year) or Clark. I already assume King and Jones are gone.

King gets hurt wiping his own ass as much as think he can be a top flight corner i think for the amount of money he has in his head that he wants i think the packers let him walk.
As for warford dude would look great at guard in GB as another poster said i hope they at least talk to his agent and do the noble TT thing and that is kick the tires.
Maybe im wrong probably am but if they really wanted to sign him they could make it work.Andrew brandt evrn mentioned that in a article

Not the biggest King fan. I think he is comparable to what we had at ILB with Barnett.....problem is he is our 2nd best CB and Josh Jackson hasn't been as good as I thought he would be.

I'm honestly shocked we didn't go CB, DT, RB knowing we won't be able to re-sign most of our free agents next year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with Love....just thought that was the route they would go to pinch pennies.

I don't think its set in stone that King won't be back after this year. I'm not sure his price tag is going to be all that big with his injury history and he doesn't have the interception numbers to drive up the price.

Alot will depend on how Bahk plays this year. Clark is probably the only sure bet for a new deal and its going to cost. Bahk however is coming off a down year himself (although many have glossed over it) and age is a concern when it comes to giving him a 3rd contract.

If Bahk bounces back then I agree there probably isn't cap room for a player like King. If he doesn't I can pretty easily see a scenerio where the FO decides King + a FA is a more desirable path (especially considering the CB depth)

Jones is gone unless he misses time this year to drive down his price to the 7-8 range. (Or at least I "hope" we don't make the mistake of shelling out big bucks to a RB). Also this is a position they just invested a 2nd round pick in to



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[M-C-G]

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Really well written and well thought through article. Jacksonville would be interesting, but at the end of the day it seems destined for Rodgers to play for Gruden

[Daver]

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Really well written and well thought through article. Jacksonville would be interesting, but at the end of the day it seems destined for Rodgers to play for Gruden

I absolutely agree very good article makes a great deal of sence and i also agree with you would love 2 top 15 picks for rodgers but i think if any team gets him i keep thinking raiders though with derrick carr makes a deal tougher not sure the raiders could beat that jax deal if it plays out that way

[M-C-G]

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Really well written and well thought through article. Jacksonville would be interesting, but at the end of the day it seems destined for Rodgers to play for Gruden

I absolutely agree very good article makes a great deal of sence and i also agree with you would love 2 top 15 picks for rodgers but i think if any team gets him i keep thinking raiders though with derrick carr makes a deal tougher not sure the raiders could beat that jax deal if it plays out that way

After this season, I believe there is only a 2.5M cap hit on Derrick Carr. With one year of planning that wouldn't be too hard to make happen.

Interesting thinking of Jacksonville...if they suck, even if you got their first 1st, that second round pick would be very high as well.

[Daver]

Will be verrry interesting to see first loves improvement in first year n this Rodgers scenerio through this whole season

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Good article. Basically after this season Rodgers time in GB is year to year with many factors involved.

My personal guess is it will be two years. Cap hit is a little less and this year could be very limited with practice time so might be hard to gauge how ready Love will be.

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[M-C-G]

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Good article. Basically after this season Rodgers time in GB is year to year with many factors involved.

My personal guess is it will be two years. Cap hit is a little less and this year could be very limited with practice time so might be hard to gauge how ready Love will be.

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Hard to see anything longer than 2 years. Like the article mentions if he has a good year and they have some level of confidence in Love, would be great to cash in on a big trade.


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[Treebeard]

As you guys noted, the article lays out good logic, but it's disheartening (to me anyway), all the same.

[Daver]

Logan ryan 1 yr deal 4 million from what i read if thats it wow he would of been great in packers D as slot DB someone wake up BG please

[Ron Swanson]

The logic is sound in theory but it's entirely hinging on the belief that Love will already be ready to lead a Super Bowl contender by Year 2. That's a pretty big ask and not something I'm gonna bank on. Otherwise the whole idea of "cap savings" is meaningless. Too much focus on fitting a guy in this desired salary window to fit this convenient, theoretical blueprint (building a roster around a cheap QB contract) and not enough thought about the actual player or his development.

[M-C-G]

The logic is sound in theory but it's entirely hinging on the belief that Love will already be ready to lead a Super Bowl contender by Year 2. That's a pretty big ask and not something I'm gonna bank on. Otherwise the whole idea of "cap savings" is meaningless. Too much focus on fitting a guy in this desired salary window to fit this convenient, theoretical blueprint (building a roster around a cheap QB contract) and not enough thought about the actual player or his development.

I see where you are coming from, but in the example where we depart Rodgers after this season, we have 1 year of kind of being stuck financially, then the opportunity to build FA pieces in year 3,4 and 5 PLUS the draft picks you would get from Rodgers. I think that is the appeal, doubt anyone is expecting Super Bowl to be delivered in Love's first season.

I've already committed myself that Rodgers will not be here in 4 years, I am mentally and emotionally prepared for that. Is there a huge difference to me if it is 1 year from now or 2 years from now? Not really, not to me anyway.

[Matches Malone]

Logan ryan 1 yr deal 4 million from what i read if thats it wow he would of been great in packers D as slot DB someone wake up BG please

Free agency is a two-way street. Maybe he wanted to play for the Jets? He is from New Jersey. They need to stop playing games and just bring Tramon back. That's the real crime.

[M-C-G]

Logan ryan 1 yr deal 4 million from what i read if thats it wow he would of been great in packers D as slot DB someone wake up BG please

The Dolphins were high on Ryan in March, but no deal commenced. The 29-year-old cornerback has remained in free agency for nearly two months.

A report earlier Tuesday indicated the Jets are expected to land Ryan, who still wants $10MM per year. That may be unrealistic at this point in the offseason, but the Jets have a far bigger need at corner than the Dolphins.

Guessing he was pricing himself out and had to take what he could get?

[Daver]

Logan ryan 1 yr deal 4 million from what i read if thats it wow he would of been great in packers D as slot DB someone wake up BG please

Free agency is a two-way street. Maybe he wanted to play for the Jets? He is from New Jersey. They need to stop playing games and just bring Tramon back. That's the real crime.

Agree with that tramon did a good job last year