2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4)

[Mecca]

mpharris is against LaMelo. it's going in my files.

im against trading an unprotected 2021 1st rounder for LaMelo.

If we get a top 3 pick I probably take him. If we are picking 7th or 8th I'm not trading the neccassary ammo to get up there.

If we're at say 6, and LaMelo is available to move up to 3, take a Dallas #1 and Kevin Knox and make the move up. That's a fair deal.

[WargamesX]

I’d send our pick if it was somewhat protected minimum top 5

nope, I know this is the new thing on the block. But 2021 class is significantly better. Once you are starting to scout Cade. You will realise he is much better.

Cade is going to be a top 5 pick. If we don’t land there we can’t get him anyway. That’s what the protection is there for

There is a kid named Patrick Baldwin who is compared to Klay Thompson and is 6-10. The knicks can’t just trade that for LaMelo when in next years draft he would probably be available 5-10 range.... maybe.

[mpharris36]

I’d send our pick if it was somewhat protected minimum top 5

nope, I know this is the new thing on the block. But 2021 class is significantly better. Once you are starting to scout Cade. You will realise he is much better.

Cade is going to be a top 5 pick. If we don’t land there we can’t get him anyway. That’s what the protection is there for

but your odds are at best 14% if you finish with the worst record. I would rather stack assets to trade up in that class rather than trade up in this class for him. He's much better.

Lamelo is good don't get me wrong. He's not trade a future high lottery pick + our this year lottery pick good though.

[robillionaire]

I’d send our pick if it was somewhat protected minimum top 5

nope, I know this is the new thing on the block. But 2021 class is significantly better. Once you are starting to scout Cade. You will realise he is much better.

Shoot Scout Bj Boston and then notice he is considered a late lottery player next year. That class is going to be really nice. 2022 is the double draft. That 2023 Mavs pick should definitely be moved cause that draft is going to be badly depleted.

Definitely like him as well especially as I am a big UK fan. Trust me I’ve been watching

2023 might be depleted but it will be the draft with emoni Bates. That mavs pick is protected though so no chance of getting him with that

[Mecca]

mpharris is against LaMelo. it's going in my files.

im against trading an unprotected 2021 1st rounder for LaMelo.

If we get a top 3 pick I probably take him. If we are picking 7th or 8th I'm not trading the neccassary ammo to get up there.

You're against LaMelo as a prospect sir.

[Mecca]

People who compare LaMelo to Lonzo are like people who compare L&B Pizza to Pizza Hut. They're nowhere close to being the same player. Stop that narrative right now. Haliburton is more Zo than Melo.

[mpharris36]

mpharris is against LaMelo. it's going in my files.

im against trading an unprotected 2021 1st rounder for LaMelo.

If we get a top 3 pick I probably take him. If we are picking 7th or 8th I'm not trading the neccassary ammo to get up there.

If we're at say 6, and LaMelo is available to move up to 3, take a Dallas #1 and Kevin Knox and make the move up. That's a fair deal.

the odds of us staying at 6 is pretty unlikely considering the odds. If we are 7 or 8. Considering there is probably no Trae Young at 7 or 8. I doubt Knox has any value to a team right now. He probably has the same value as our Clippers pick.

Then the Dallas pick is another projected pick in the 20's.

Two late 1st values (knox + Dal pick)...isn't enough to get you from 7 or 8 or up top 3.

[mpharris36]

mpharris is against LaMelo. it's going in my files.

im against trading an unprotected 2021 1st rounder for LaMelo.

If we get a top 3 pick I probably take him. If we are picking 7th or 8th I'm not trading the neccassary ammo to get up there.

You're against LaMelo as a prospect sir.

how would I be against a prospect that I would take in the top 3?

If I'm against any propsect you could put me in the "against" wiseman because I just don't see the value of picking rim running bigs that early in the draft. Lamelo I would take. Just because I am not stupid to give up our 2021 1st rounder (because that is what it would cost). I don't value him as a prospect?

[WargamesX]

nope, I know this is the new thing on the block. But 2021 class is significantly better. Once you are starting to scout Cade. You will realise he is much better.

Shoot Scout Bj Boston and then notice he is considered a late lottery player next year. That class is going to be really nice. 2022 is the double draft. That 2023 Mavs pick should definitely be moved cause that draft is going to be badly depleted.

Definitely like him as well especially as I am a big UK fan. Trust me I’ve been watching

2023 might be depleted but it will be the draft with emoni Bates. That mavs pick is protected though so no chance of getting him with that

Emoni could be the next Lebron..... he’s going to be in 2022 if the double draft happens. 2023 I think is LeBron kids draft but they are still to young to call. We should definitely not trade our 2022 pick. That’s another loaded class.

[Mecca]

im against trading an unprotected 2021 1st rounder for LaMelo.

If we get a top 3 pick I probably take him. If we are picking 7th or 8th I'm not trading the neccassary ammo to get up there.

If we're at say 6, and LaMelo is available to move up to 3, take a Dallas #1 and Kevin Knox and make the move up. That's a fair deal.

the odds of us staying at 6 is pretty unlikely considering the odds. If we are 7 or 8. Considering there is probably no Trae Young at 7 or 8. I doubt Knox has any value to a team right now. He probably has the same value as our Clippers pick.

Then the Dallas pick is another projected pick in the 20's.

Two late 1st values (knox + Dal pick)...isn't enough to get you from 7 or 8 or up top 3.

The Knicks also have odds to move up. You can't assume they'll drop. & LaMelo is no guarantee to go top 3. I think he goes between 3 and 5.

If the Knicks are at 6, Knox and either the Clippers pick or a Dallas pick is enough. If it's not enough, they can have both of them. If you're saying that's not enough, you aren't familiar with this draft class. It's not a tier 1 heavy draft.

[mpharris36]

nope, I know this is the new thing on the block. But 2021 class is significantly better. Once you are starting to scout Cade. You will realise he is much better.

Shoot Scout Bj Boston and then notice he is considered a late lottery player next year. That class is going to be really nice. 2022 is the double draft. That 2023 Mavs pick should definitely be moved cause that draft is going to be badly depleted.

Definitely like him as well especially as I am a big UK fan. Trust me I’ve been watching

2023 might be depleted but it will be the draft with emoni Bates. That mavs pick is protected though so no chance of getting him with that

2022 will be the bates class

[Mecca]

im against trading an unprotected 2021 1st rounder for LaMelo.

If we get a top 3 pick I probably take him. If we are picking 7th or 8th I'm not trading the neccassary ammo to get up there.

You're against LaMelo as a prospect sir.

how would I be against a prospect that I would take in the top 3?

If I'm against any propsect you could put me in the "against" wiseman because I just don't see the value of picking rim running bigs that early in the draft. Lamelo I would take. Just because I am not stupid to give up our 2021 1st rounder (because that is what it would cost). I don't value him as a prospect?

I know you said his comparison is Lonzo, and they are nowhere near similar as players.

[mpharris36]

If we're at say 6, and LaMelo is available to move up to 3, take a Dallas #1 and Kevin Knox and make the move up. That's a fair deal.

the odds of us staying at 6 is pretty unlikely considering the odds. If we are 7 or 8. Considering there is probably no Trae Young at 7 or 8. I doubt Knox has any value to a team right now. He probably has the same value as our Clippers pick.

Then the Dallas pick is another projected pick in the 20's.

Two late 1st values (knox + Dal pick)...isn't enough to get you from 7 or 8 or up top 3.

The Knicks also have odds to move up. You can't assume they'll drop. & LaMelo is no guarantee to go top 3. I think he goes between 3 and 5.

If the Knicks are at 6, Knox and either the Clippers pick or a Dallas pick is enough. If it's not enough, they can have both of them. If you're saying that's not enough, you aren't familiar with this draft class. It's not a tier 1 heavy draft.

Correct which is why I am comfortable sitting right where I am and taking Hayes. And keeping all my assets for future trades.

If we are lucky enough to move up in the draft, then I'm all for selecting either Ball or Edwards...whoever we deem better.

[knicksanity]

If Rose is really committed to bring CP3 here. I'm trading down to 10-13ish and try to acquire another 2nd rnd pick.

I'm really intrigued on Vassel, Bey, Nesmith and Pat Williams. I think 1 of these guys will be a steal in this years draft.

[mpharris36]

You're against LaMelo as a prospect sir.

how would I be against a prospect that I would take in the top 3?

If I'm against any propsect you could put me in the "against" wiseman because I just don't see the value of picking rim running bigs that early in the draft. Lamelo I would take. Just because I am not stupid to give up our 2021 1st rounder (because that is what it would cost). I don't value him as a prospect?

I know you said his comparison is Lonzo, and they are nowhere near similar as players.

I never once comped Lamelo to Lonzo. Might want to get your facts straight

[Mecca]

the odds of us staying at 6 is pretty unlikely considering the odds. If we are 7 or 8. Considering there is probably no Trae Young at 7 or 8. I doubt Knox has any value to a team right now. He probably has the same value as our Clippers pick.

Then the Dallas pick is another projected pick in the 20's.

Two late 1st values (knox + Dal pick)...isn't enough to get you from 7 or 8 or up top 3.

The Knicks also have odds to move up. You can't assume they'll drop. & LaMelo is no guarantee to go top 3. I think he goes between 3 and 5.

If the Knicks are at 6, Knox and either the Clippers pick or a Dallas pick is enough. If it's not enough, they can have both of them. If you're saying that's not enough, you aren't familiar with this draft class. It's not a tier 1 heavy draft.

Correct which is why I am comfortable sitting right where I am and taking Hayes. And keeping all my assets for future trades.

If we are lucky enough to move up in the draft, then I'm all for selecting either Ball or Edwards...whoever we deem better.

I thought you were anti LaMelo because you said this a few months ago. Since then, I just see you as Mr. Anti-LaMelo-man.

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

[Mecca]

how would I be against a prospect that I would take in the top 3?

If I'm against any propsect you could put me in the "against" wiseman because I just don't see the value of picking rim running bigs that early in the draft. Lamelo I would take. Just because I am not stupid to give up our 2021 1st rounder (because that is what it would cost). I don't value him as a prospect?

I know you said his comparison is Lonzo, and they are nowhere near similar as players.

I never once comped Lamelo to Lonzo. Might want to get your facts straight

You're right, I apologize and need to start a fight with Hezi instead because I think he said that.

You did say you don't want LaMelo though!

[mpharris36]

The Knicks also have odds to move up. You can't assume they'll drop. & LaMelo is no guarantee to go top 3. I think he goes between 3 and 5.

If the Knicks are at 6, Knox and either the Clippers pick or a Dallas pick is enough. If it's not enough, they can have both of them. If you're saying that's not enough, you aren't familiar with this draft class. It's not a tier 1 heavy draft.

Correct which is why I am comfortable sitting right where I am and taking Hayes. And keeping all my assets for future trades.

If we are lucky enough to move up in the draft, then I'm all for selecting either Ball or Edwards...whoever we deem better.

I thought you were anti LaMelo because you said this a few months ago

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

the shooting, the lack of defense, the decision making is a concern for me. Then add in the Lavar stuff (and before we go down that road)...its NY you don't think the first losing streak or first time RJ takes a last second shot instead of Lamelo are we sure Lavar wont pop off. We haven't been a model franchsie and I don't need that dude pooing off on 1st take with SAS everytime something doesn't go his son's way.

But every prospects has his flaws. He has an elite skill that very few prospects have. He is an elite playmaker.

[Mecca]

Correct which is why I am comfortable sitting right where I am and taking Hayes. And keeping all my assets for future trades.

If we are lucky enough to move up in the draft, then I'm all for selecting either Ball or Edwards...whoever we deem better.

I thought you were anti LaMelo because you said this a few months ago

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

the shooting, the lack of defense, the decision making is a concern for me. Then add in the Lavar stuff (and before we go down that road)...its NY you don't think the first losing streak or first time RJ takes a last second shot instead of Lamelo are we sure Lavar wont pop off. We haven't been a model franchsie and I don't need that dude pooing off on 1st take with SAS everytime something doesn't go his son's way.

But every prospects has his flaws. He has an elite skill that very few prospects have. He is an elite playmaker.

The shooting is poor, but he has an amazing touch on floaters and his form as an off ball guy is actually good. It's off the dribble ugly. That, and the defense stinks as of now.

LaVar stuff means 0 to me. If anything, I'd get a laugh. He's a mascot.

Take his name out the equation and he's the #1 pick.

[robillionaire]

We need a PG and we need a PG now. We’ve needed one for decades. If we can get what I believe will be a franchise PG now, I would try to make that happen. We can’t just waste yet another year of every player’s development because we have no real floor general or playmaker and hold out on 14% chance of Cade with no real fallback options. If he’s a lot better, which I’m skeptical of, it just means it would be much harder to actually trade for him if you don’t hit the 14%. It would be like putting all our eggs in the Zion basket and then missing again. Nobody was trading that pick. We would just end up picking 8-10 next year, 86% chance of no Cade and still not have a PG. actually it would probably be like 94% from 8th