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robillionaire wrote:am I the only one who thinks hayes looks slow
Deeeez Knicks wrote:robillionaire wrote:am I the only one who thinks hayes looks slow
He looks slower for a PG and not explosive. But he has nice size and is shifty/crafty... change of directions/euro steps..looks good shooting off the dribble and on step backs.
Think he can get by enough being crafty, as long as he can consistently hit those step backs/jumpers especially in pick n rolls. Still like him a lot in this draft
robillionaire wrote:am I the only one who thinks hayes looks slow
Naughtyfatboy wrote:F N 11 wrote:Now we eyeing Cole Anthony? Not a fan of his passing sorry. Rumors out of control lol
One lead guard the Knicks have scouted extensively, per an NCAA source, is North Carolina's Cole Anthony.
"New York has done their homework on Cole," the NCAA source said.
https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/source-knicks-have-scouted-cole-anthony-extensively-in-advance-of-2020-nba-draft/313428398
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Cole was always going to be a name that would be linked to the Knicks and it’ll bloom more once the draft approaches whenever that may be
malik959 wrote:
Killian would be our project child. The player you have to be patient with. He would definitely come off the bench his first year and would have to fight for his spot where LaMelo, Haliburton, and Cole would more than likely start ( LaMelo because of his hype). His issues would be more on us for our patience with first rounders isn't very strong, otherwise he is everything we need in a guard, tall, strong, can see the court, has great form, a beautiful step back, great defense, can run the court....... If were looking to be in the lotto again next year than you take a chance on him. If your looking to improve your position moving towards playoffs you go with Haliburton/Cole.
RHODEY wrote:malik959 wrote:
Killian would be our project child. The player you have to be patient with. He would definitely come off the bench his first year and would have to fight for his spot where LaMelo, Haliburton, and Cole would more than likely start ( LaMelo because of his hype). His issues would be more on us for our patience with first rounders isn't very strong, otherwise he is everything we need in a guard, tall, strong, can see the court, has great form, a beautiful step back, great defense, can run the court....... If were looking to be in the lotto again next year than you take a chance on him. If your looking to improve your position moving towards playoffs you go with Haliburton/Cole.
Agree except he's no project.
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/2020-nba-draft-big-board/
robillionaire wrote:am I the only one who thinks hayes looks slow
1, I think this only a crazy idea to people who just watch highlights because he doesn’t have a flashy game
It’s as simple as this
He’s a great passer
He’s a good defender
All signs point to him being a good shooter in the NBA despite the lacking 3 point %
He’ll still be 18 when he’s drafted, one of the youngest guys in the class
He’s 6’5 with 6’8 wingspan, great positional size
He averaged 12/3/5 on 59% TS on the year in pro leagues and played better vs better competition
He’s just a complete player, he doesn’t have as much star power as Lamelo or Edwards but his floor is so much higher than their’s, he’s a safe bet to be a high end point guard with defensive versatility to guard either backcourt spot. That’s the selling point in taking him 1.
thebuzzardman wrote:RHODEY wrote:malik959 wrote:
Killian would be our project child. The player you have to be patient with. He would definitely come off the bench his first year and would have to fight for his spot where LaMelo, Haliburton, and Cole would more than likely start ( LaMelo because of his hype). His issues would be more on us for our patience with first rounders isn't very strong, otherwise he is everything we need in a guard, tall, strong, can see the court, has great form, a beautiful step back, great defense, can run the court....... If were looking to be in the lotto again next year than you take a chance on him. If your looking to improve your position moving towards playoffs you go with Haliburton/Cole.
Agree except he's no project.
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/2020-nba-draft-big-board/
But does Tommy like him?
RHODEY wrote:malik959 wrote:
Killian would be our project child. The player you have to be patient with. He would definitely come off the bench his first year and would have to fight for his spot where LaMelo, Haliburton, and Cole would more than likely start ( LaMelo because of his hype). His issues would be more on us for our patience with first rounders isn't very strong, otherwise he is everything we need in a guard, tall, strong, can see the court, has great form, a beautiful step back, great defense, can run the court....... If were looking to be in the lotto again next year than you take a chance on him. If your looking to improve your position moving towards playoffs you go with Haliburton/Cole.
Agree except he's no project.
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/2020-nba-draft-big-board/
RHODEY wrote:malik959 wrote:
Killian would be our project child. The player you have to be patient with. He would definitely come off the bench his first year and would have to fight for his spot where LaMelo, Haliburton, and Cole would more than likely start ( LaMelo because of his hype). His issues would be more on us for our patience with first rounders isn't very strong, otherwise he is everything we need in a guard, tall, strong, can see the court, has great form, a beautiful step back, great defense, can run the court....... If were looking to be in the lotto again next year than you take a chance on him. If your looking to improve your position moving towards playoffs you go with Haliburton/Cole.
Agree except he's no project.
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/2020-nba-draft-big-board/
robillionaire wrote:RHODEY wrote:malik959 wrote:
Killian would be our project child. The player you have to be patient with. He would definitely come off the bench his first year and would have to fight for his spot where LaMelo, Haliburton, and Cole would more than likely start ( LaMelo because of his hype). His issues would be more on us for our patience with first rounders isn't very strong, otherwise he is everything we need in a guard, tall, strong, can see the court, has great form, a beautiful step back, great defense, can run the court....... If were looking to be in the lotto again next year than you take a chance on him. If your looking to improve your position moving towards playoffs you go with Haliburton/Cole.
Agree except he's no project.
https://uproxx.com/dimemag/2020-nba-draft-big-board/
Toppin 14th and Wiseman 26th
yeah this person at uproxx knows what they're talking about
We missed Wiseman by 1 pick smh
robillionaire wrote:"Yes, he’s this low. Perhaps he made the right decision to leave school entirely after how the NCAA treated him, but every time I’ve seen him play against big men even close to his size, he’s gotten bullied down low and his skill game on the perimeter is not even in the same universe as someone like Karl-Anthony Towns or even LaMarcus Aldridge. He’ll go early and I do understand why, but it’s very hard to buy Wiseman being a true impact player on either end for at least his first couple of seasons. Much more of a project than I think has been reported."
Wiseman train has officially been derailed
robillionaire wrote:"Yes, he’s this low. Perhaps he made the right decision to leave school entirely after how the NCAA treated him, but every time I’ve seen him play against big men even close to his size, he’s gotten bullied down low and his skill game on the perimeter is not even in the same universe as someone like Karl-Anthony Towns or even LaMarcus Aldridge. He’ll go early and I do understand why, but it’s very hard to buy Wiseman being a true impact player on either end for at least his first couple of seasons. Much more of a project than I think has been reported."
Wiseman train has officially been derailed
robillionaire wrote:"Yes, he’s this low. Perhaps he made the right decision to leave school entirely after how the NCAA treated him, but every time I’ve seen him play against big men even close to his size, he’s gotten bullied down low and his skill game on the perimeter is not even in the same universe as someone like Karl-Anthony Towns or even LaMarcus Aldridge. He’ll go early and I do understand why, but it’s very hard to buy Wiseman being a true impact player on either end for at least his first couple of seasons. Much more of a project than I think has been reported."
Wiseman train has officially been derailed
god shammgod wrote:robillionaire wrote:"Yes, he’s this low. Perhaps he made the right decision to leave school entirely after how the NCAA treated him, but every time I’ve seen him play against big men even close to his size, he’s gotten bullied down low and his skill game on the perimeter is not even in the same universe as someone like Karl-Anthony Towns or even LaMarcus Aldridge. He’ll go early and I do understand why, but it’s very hard to buy Wiseman being a true impact player on either end for at least his first couple of seasons. Much more of a project than I think has been reported."
Wiseman train has officially been derailed
well damn. you hate to see it.
get ready melo. he's coming.
CoreyVillains wrote:I know there’s been some Hampton to the Knicks buzz. My next breakdown will be on him. In the mean time here’s two minutes of his at the rim finishing.
Mecca wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Mecca wrote:People who compare LaMelo to Lonzo are like people who compare L&B Pizza to Pizza Hut. They're nowhere close to being the same player. Stop that narrative right now. Haliburton is more Zo than Melo.
I think the biggest thing that you're missing is that Lonzo has proven he can play at the NBA level and LaMelo hasn't yet. You see how players that get drafted as high as in the lottery every single year end up as busts once they get to playing in the NBA. It's a different game and speed to the game and some just can't play in it even though they played well in college or in LaMelo's case overseas. I think LaMelo will be fine in the NBA cause those Ball kids just seem to have that confidence level already set in them but i've thought that about other players that were drafted high in drafts that didn't work out in the NBA. We won't know until we actually get to see it.
This team is so far away from building a good young team that i'm being very careful with any future assets i have when it comes to trading them away in this draft. If the plan is to wait for a disgruntled star so we can trade for him then we better have plenty of assets ready to trade for that player or another team will outbid us for that player. As of now we don't have much for assets to trade in players so we will need draft picks to trade.
Not missing that Lonzo has proven it in today's game. Their skillset is very different.