2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4)

[HEZI]

is it really that hard to believe???

Knox was their project pick. They took him for "potential". Clearly Miles Bridges was the better player and better than Mikal and Knox but they saw the physical profile of Knox and thought they could mold him for the future. Can't really blame the FO on that one though, it's not like the RealGM consensus hit on their guy either. Mikal Bridges has been a bust also.

Also, this board didn't want SGA because they thought Frank was going to be it

Mikal hasnt been a bust.

Mikal >> Miles

Mikal is a total bust. Not only is he the oldest out of the whole group, he's also nothing but a role player off the bench. Considering his hype, he's a total bust

[robillionaire]

Knox was their project pick. They took him for "potential". Clearly Miles Bridges was the better player and better than Mikal and Knox but they saw the physical profile of Knox and thought they could mold him for the future. Can't really blame the FO on that one though, it's not like the RealGM consensus hit on their guy either. Mikal Bridges has been a bust also.

Also, this board didn't want SGA because they thought Frank was going to be it

Mikal hasnt been a bust.

Mikal >> Miles

Mikal is a total bust. Not only is he the oldest out of the whole group, he's also nothing but a role player off the bench. Considering his hype, he's a total bust

If we would have drafted him here you better believe he would be widely regarded as a bust. He's definitely not the player he was hyped up to be. And he will be 24 by the start of next season so he's probably at or nearing the peak of whatever he's going to be.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Knox was their project pick. They took him for "potential". Clearly Miles Bridges was the better player and better than Mikal and Knox but they saw the physical profile of Knox and thought they could mold him for the future. Can't really blame the FO on that one though, it's not like the RealGM consensus hit on their guy either. Mikal Bridges has been a bust also.

Also, this board didn't want SGA because they thought Frank was going to be it

Mikal hasnt been a bust.

Mikal >> Miles

Mikal is a total bust. Not only is he the oldest out of the whole group, he's also nothing but a role player off the bench. Considering his hype, he's a total bust

He is pretty much an Ariza type glue player as advertised. He was really playing well before the stoppage. He got off to a slow start but came around and was starting.

In 24 games as a starter 11.4ppg/4.6rpg/2.7apg/1bpg/1.5spg/52%fg/42%3pt/66%ts, along with great defense. That is good all around numbers.

Better then Miles and much better then Knox...SGA would have still been the best pick for us.

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2020/03/02/mikal-bridges-has-finally-arrived-phoenix-suns/

Mikal is a pure lockdown defender. He can block shots, steal the ball, and stay in front of virtually anybody. For a very bad defensive team, he is exactly what the Phoenix Suns need.

Recently, Bridges has been shining. In his last twelve games, he is averaging 11.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 1.9 steals, and 0.9 blocks on 53/44/100 shooting. During this impressive run, Mikal has racked up give games with four steals, and has had a steal in all but two of the twelve games. The Suns do not need Bridges to score 20 points per game and grab double digit rebounds; they just need him to do a little of everything.

Suns fans have a lot to be excited about in Mikal Bridges. He has skills of Kevin Durant and Shawn Marion in his game, but does not need the ball as much. Mikal has cemented his spot in the starting lineup and in the Suns future plans.

[3toheadmelo]

Mikal has been good on Phoenix. In fact once him and Ayton got back into the starting lineup this year, that lineup has had the best net rating in the whole NBA.

Mikal is in a solid spot in Phoenix next to multiple scorers. All he has to do is hit the open 3 ball and play defense. Thats it. He's fine there.

But I still like Miles more than Mikal. He's mad underrated on the Hornets.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Mikal hasnt been a bust.

Mikal >> Miles

Mikal is a total bust. Not only is he the oldest out of the whole group, he's also nothing but a role player off the bench. Considering his hype, he's a total bust

If we would have drafted him here you better believe he would be widely regarded as a bust. He's definitely not the player he was hyped up to be. And he will be 24 by the start of next season so he's probably at or nearing the peak of whatever he's going to be.

Everyone looks bad here

But Mikal is well on his way to being an elite 3D player. Will just agree to disagree there then.

[robillionaire]

Nah he’s not been as advertised he shot 43% from 3 his last year in college on 6 attempts a game, 40% across 3 years in the NCAA but shoots a paltry 34% in the NBA. His scoring rebounding and assist numbers are not impressive. Still seems like a decent role player defender off the bench. But that’s not what people were expecting

[3toheadmelo]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

[robillionaire]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

the hype train for him in the draft thread was off the rails. No way would we be content with what he is even just as a rotation defender

[robillionaire]

We can’t live with drafting someone who just turns into an average bench player or rotation player we need everyone to be a superstar

Last year Frank averaged 10.8 points per 36 with great defense and he’s widely considered a bust and Mikal has averaged 10.7 per 36 across his 2 seasons he’s offensively on par with Frank except he’s 2 years older than frank

[WargamesX]

We can’t live with drafting someone who just turns into an average bench player or rotation player we need everyone to be a superstar

Last year Frank averaged 10.8 points per 36 with great defense and he’s widely considered a bust and Mikal has averaged 10.7 per 36 across his 2 seasons he’s offensively on par with Frank except he’s 2 years older than frank

Well that’s because our fan base has no patience and honestly we’re not use to drafting. Correct me if I am wrong but even in the 90’s the knicks weren’t drafting a lot of their players.

[Mecca]

if you draft that bag of poo lamelo, then you trade rj barrett.

rj needs the ball in his hands and so does lamelo, who’ll never be able to play off the ball with is broken shot and trash form.

LaMelo’s form is good off ball and statistically he’s a very good shooter off ball. I have synergy access lol

[mpharris36]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

that wasn't a real thing. 99% of the Mikal fans never thought he could be kawhi.

if it was I would love you provide bakcup for that. I dont remember any comps to kawhi. Mikal was a 3/D forward to the max.

[mpharris36]

We can’t live with drafting someone who just turns into an average bench player or rotation player we need everyone to be a superstar

Last year Frank averaged 10.8 points per 36 with great defense and he’s widely considered a bust and Mikal has averaged 10.7 per 36 across his 2 seasons he’s offensively on par with Frank except he’s 2 years older than frank

ask that question to melo

[3toheadmelo]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

the hype train for him in the draft thread was off the rails. No way would we be content with what he is even just as a rotation defender

He is better off in Phoenix where all he has to be is a role player there. They already got their franchise players with Book and Ayton. That's why no one says much about Phoenix passing up guys like SGA for Mikal cause they just need him to be a 3 and D guy there and he's been fulfilling that role.

Knicks would be asking him to be more than a 3 and D guard because we're still looking for stars and he would be labeled as a bust here. That's why we aren't content with Frank because we need him to be more than a 3 and D guard and he can't be that. But yeah his hype in the draft threads were insane.

[robillionaire]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

that wasn't a real thing. 99% of the Mikal fans never thought he could be kawhi.

if it was I would love you provide bakcup for that. I dont remember any comps to kawhi. Mikal was a 3/D forward to the max.

There was someone on here comparing him to MJ. I'm close to trying to dig it up

[3toheadmelo]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

that wasn't a real thing. 99% of the Mikal fans never thought he could be kawhi.

if it was I would love you provide bakcup for that. I dont remember any comps to kawhi. Mikal was a 3/D forward to the max.

Me and robillionaire remember it. You can go look and find it. There was mad comparisons to Kawhi

[HEZI]

Mikal hasnt been a bust.

Mikal >> Miles

Mikal is a total bust. Not only is he the oldest out of the whole group, he's also nothing but a role player off the bench. Considering his hype, he's a total bust

He is pretty much an Ariza type glue player as advertised. He was really playing well before the stoppage. He got off to a slow start but came around and was starting.

In 24 games as a starter 11.4ppg/4.6rpg/2.7apg/1bpg/1.5spg/52%fg/42%3pt/66%ts, along with great defense. That is good all around numbers.

Better then Miles and much better then Knox...SGA would have still been the best pick for us.

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2020/03/02/mikal-bridges-has-finally-arrived-phoenix-suns/

Mikal is a pure lockdown defender. He can block shots, steal the ball, and stay in front of virtually anybody. For a very bad defensive team, he is exactly what the Phoenix Suns need.

Recently, Bridges has been shining. In his last twelve games, he is averaging 11.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 1.9 steals, and 0.9 blocks on 53/44/100 shooting. During this impressive run, Mikal has racked up give games with four steals, and has had a steal in all but two of the twelve games. The Suns do not need Bridges to score 20 points per game and grab double digit rebounds; they just need him to do a little of everything.

Suns fans have a lot to be excited about in Mikal Bridges. He has skills of Kevin Durant and Shawn Marion in his game, but does not need the ball as much. Mikal has cemented his spot in the starting lineup and in the Suns future plans.

There is nothing impressive about any of that. Which is funny to see the justification for Mikal and the hate for Knox coming from people who now want to shoot for the moon and aim for the stars, which is exactly the thought process that went into the Knox pick over Mikal. A 3/D role player such as Mikal is not worth a lotto pick and not worth missing on an opportunity to draft somebody with a much higher ceiling. Miles is better than him and still has a higher ceiling to keep getting better. Knox is a wildcard but taking a risk on him was still better than settling for Mikal. SGA is the only one worth complaining about, but that's not who the majority wanted anyway and a good reason for that is because we had Frank. Yikes!

[HEZI]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

that wasn't a real thing. 99% of the Mikal fans never thought he could be kawhi.

if it was I would love you provide bakcup for that. I dont remember any comps to kawhi. Mikal was a 3/D forward to the max.

Me and robillionaire remember it. You can go look and find it. There was mad comparisons to Kawhi

Ofcourse there were, just like Frank was compared to Jrue Holiday and even Giannis of Point Guards

People thought Mikal was at the very least going to be Middleton with potential to be Kawhi. Lets just say he's not even close to Middleton let alone Kawhi. He's not even prime Ariza level yet.

People had way bigger expectations for Mikal than what he's shown, anybody downplaying it now is only lying to themselves

[Deeeez Knicks]

The Mikal and the Kawhi comparisons on this board were too much though. He wasn't even close to that. The wingspan lovers keep comparing guys like him and Frank to Kawhi which were ridiculous

that wasn't a real thing. 99% of the Mikal fans never thought he could be kawhi.

if it was I would love you provide bakcup for that. I dont remember any comps to kawhi. Mikal was a 3/D forward to the max.

Me and robillionaire remember it. You can go look and find it. There was mad comparisons to Kawhi

Like Wiseman is Bosh/AD or Knox is Giannis/Durant? Come on. We are all bad when it comes to that.

[HEZI]

We can’t live with drafting someone who just turns into an average bench player or rotation player we need everyone to be a superstar

Last year Frank averaged 10.8 points per 36 with great defense and he’s widely considered a bust and Mikal has averaged 10.7 per 36 across his 2 seasons he’s offensively on par with Frank except he’s 2 years older than frank

He's basically an older Frank