2020 NBA Draft Thread

[neno]

Giles? Wow I was thinking Baynes or Christian Wood

[Sactowndog]

What is Boston willing to pay? The Kings will match or beat anything under the $4M that are capped at. Most Kings fans are pissed Giles option wasn’t picked up. Giles and Sac fans have a mutual love affair but if he goes anywhere I hope it’s Boston.

I think the most Boston could offer is the taxpayer MLE assuming Hayward either opts in or resigns. If Hayward walks, they have the full MLE at their disposal and personally I’d offer all of it at 4 years. I’ve been stanning for Giles since 2017 though so I’ll admit being totally biased on this one. Kid is only 22, is best friends with our superstar player, has a pathway to a future starting role here on a winning team, can pass out of the high post like Horford did for us and has range out to the 3 point line. Tbh I’m fully expecting Tatum to deliver him to us in free agency

I'm a fan of Giles as well for all the reasons you stated here. That said, he was atrocious defensively this year. Like REALLY bad. It would be interesting to see if Danny and Brad liked him that much.

https://aroyalpain.com/2020/05/02/sacramento-kings-report-card-harry-giles/3/

Atrocious Defense
Of 350 eligible players per Synergy, Harry Giles allows the 342nd highest opponent field goal percentage around the basket (65.8 percent). He also commits the 8th most fouls per 36 (6.2) in the association, of those with a minimum of ten minutes per outing.

Aside from Kyle Guy and Marvin Bagley, who both saw extremely limited playing time, Sacramento’s defensive rating is worst with Harry Giles on the floor, at 114.3. Opposition’s effective field goal percentage raises 1.7 percent overall and an absurd 13.7 percent better at the rim with Harry Giles on the floor compared to off.

Sensing a trend here? Just how terrifyingly bad Harry Giles is on the defensive end is hard to overlook, even with his stellar offensive contributions.

He is regularly found in insufficient positions to protect the rim and his seemingly endless energy causes more harm than good in the form of fouls that frustrate Walton, the fans, Giles, and his teammates alike.

That said, he's a classic "buy low" kind of asset who could appreciate tremendously in the right place.

Yeah his defense improved but he isn’t a great rim protector. The surgeries have impacted his lift.

[threrf23]

He is basically in the Josh Jackson, Marqueese Chris territory (minus the attitude issues).

Josh Jackson and Marquese Chriss, without the attitude issues, would be pretty solid.

I'd put him in Leon Powe territory.

[big-shot-ROB]

He is basically in the Josh Jackson, Marqueese Chris territory (minus the attitude issues).

Josh Jackson and Marquese Chriss, without the attitude issues, would be pretty solid.

I'd put him in Leon Powe territory.

Jackson maybe, he has flashed some things in Memphis were you shouldn't really give up on him.

Not Chriss, he should be out of the league, even if he shuts off the gangsta attitude.

[winsomme2]

Any fans of Immanuel Quickley?

He reminds me of a Louis Wiilliams. Incredible scoring instincts. Easy shot. Good handle and mid range game and a knock down FT shooter +90%.

He's a guy that I think would be a clear first round pick if we'd had a March Madness.

Seems like he could be a really nice addition to our bench.

[Parliament10]

As I stated before, I think that the Draft will be held in September, or even October.
With the 2020-21 Season starting on December 25th.

Read on Twitter

[big-shot-ROB]

Might have to start spamming this thread with Jahmi'us Ramsey stats and film as I did last year with Herro until I have converted you into my personal "draft this guy" robot army.

[youngWizzy]

Hello everybody,

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Note: Advanced stats only go back to the 2011 Draft and there are currently only limited physical comparisons for some of the 2020 prospects as the combine hasn't reported official measurements. Additionally, if you cannot find a player in the stats, visuals, or advanced pages you can enter their sports-reference url and the site will generate the comparisons then.

If you end up seeing this, any feedback/comments/suggestions that you have or would like me to add a feature to the website is something that I'd appreciate a whole lot. You can dm me here but preferable on twitter:youngwizzydfs and I will respond asap.

The experience is a lot better on desktop/laptop than mobile which is something I am working on right now

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[100proof]

Might have to start spamming this thread with Jahmi'us Ramsey stats and film as I did last year with Herro until I have converted you into my personal "draft this guy" robot army.

Not sure,butI think I was the 1st to say that name in this thread.

Either way i am 100% part of tht army

[Parliament10]

Read on Twitter

[CelticsPride18]

I love Bolmaro’s game but I’m not sure if it translates to the NBA. I also like Tyler Bey seems like he could be a defensive monster. I would take Hampton if he drops to 17.

[100proof]

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I love Bolmaro’s game but I’m not sure if it translates to the NBA. I also like Tyler Bey seems like he could be a defensive monster. I would take Hampton if he drops to 17.

Hampton or maledon at 17
Tyler bey at 22
Ramsay at 30 is my perfect draft

Hayward gone and a bit more depth as well would be a perfect offseason.

Walker/smart/brown/tatum/theis
Hampton/ramsay/bey/grant/timelord

Edwards/waters/tacko/romeo

[threrf23]

Hello everybody,

Tool: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com

I recently developed an NBA Draft Comparison tool that has gained a good amount of popularity on Twitter by several draft analysts

The tool retrieves similar physical, statistical (per40), and advanced stat comparisons for any player dating back to the 2000 NBA Draft based on their position

Note: Advanced stats only go back to the 2011 Draft and there are currently only limited physical comparisons for some of the 2020 prospects as the combine hasn't reported official measurements. Additionally, if you cannot find a player in the stats, visuals, or advanced pages you can enter their sports-reference url and the site will generate the comparisons then.

If you end up seeing this, any feedback/comments/suggestions that you have or would like me to add a feature to the website is something that I'd appreciate a whole lot. You can dm me here but preferable on twitter:youngwizzydfs and I will respond asap.

The experience is a lot better on desktop/laptop than mobile which is something I am working on right now

If you don't mind sharing the tool with your friends and people that would mean a whole lot as it could lead to potential donations to my site that will help keep it up! Been working on this for a few years now so it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride!
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Hey,

This is kind of cool for what it is. It works.

If you're asking for feedback, IMO it would be useful to include player ages, and/or at least academic years (i.e. Freshman vs Senior). I would also replace steals/40 and blocks/40 with steals/foul and blocks/foul. I guess it would also be useful to include height and weight (better yet, combine results where available).

That all probably isn't easy and I'm not sure it would be worth your time, but age is a very important factor to consider when comparing collegiate production, and from a statistical standpoint I feel that foul efficiency tends to be a much more important indicator that it is typically given credit for.

[CelticsPride18]

:lol: f

I love Bolmaro’s game but I’m not sure if it translates to the NBA. I also like Tyler Bey seems like he could be a defensive monster. I would take Hampton if he drops to 17.

Hampton or maledon at 17
Tyler bey at 22
Ramsay at 30 is my perfect draft

Hayward gone and a bit more depth as well would be a perfect offseason.

Walker/smart/brown/tatum/theis
Hampton/ramsay/bey/grant/timelord

Edwards/waters/tacko/romeo

I doubt we make the 3 picks. I’m guessing we trade one, draft one and use the last one on a draft and stash. Also Romeo should be over RJ in the Depth chart he’s extremely raw. That team has too many rookies. Hayward will stay one more year.

[youngWizzy]

Hello everybody,

Tool: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com

I recently developed an NBA Draft Comparison tool that has gained a good amount of popularity on Twitter by several draft analysts

The tool retrieves similar physical, statistical (per40), and advanced stat comparisons for any player dating back to the 2000 NBA Draft based on their position

Note: Advanced stats only go back to the 2011 Draft and there are currently only limited physical comparisons for some of the 2020 prospects as the combine hasn't reported official measurements. Additionally, if you cannot find a player in the stats, visuals, or advanced pages you can enter their sports-reference url and the site will generate the comparisons then.

If you end up seeing this, any feedback/comments/suggestions that you have or would like me to add a feature to the website is something that I'd appreciate a whole lot. You can dm me here but preferable on twitter:youngwizzydfs and I will respond asap.

The experience is a lot better on desktop/laptop than mobile which is something I am working on right now

If you don't mind sharing the tool with your friends and people that would mean a whole lot as it could lead to potential donations to my site that will help keep it up! Been working on this for a few years now so it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride!
​

Hey,

This is kind of cool for what it is. It works.

If you're asking for feedback, IMO it would be useful to include player ages, and/or at least academic years (i.e. Freshman vs Senior). I would also replace steals/40 and blocks/40 with steals/foul and blocks/foul. I guess it would also be useful to include height and weight (better yet, combine results where available).

That all probably isn't easy and I'm not sure it would be worth your time, but age is a very important factor to consider when comparing collegiate production, and from a statistical standpoint I feel that foul efficiency tends to be a much more important indicator that it is typically given credit for.

I actually just did add age a few days ago. I didn't add age for the physical comparisons yet but the per40 and advanced do have age factored in. I felt per40 stats were important because I had to normalize the field for all prospects.

[Cuban Pete]

Might have to start spamming this thread with Jahmi'us Ramsey stats and film as I did last year with Herro until I have converted you into my personal "draft this guy" robot army.

Herro was a better shooter. Ramsey's 64.1 FT% gives me pause (Justice Winslow shot 64% at Duke). You were correct in Herro. He was a great prospect that Danny didn't want to move up for. He and sonny boy Austin should have been sacked years ago. Shame on C's ownership to allow nepotism to dwell at such a critical level within the organization. I digress. That said, NEVER look at 3pt% at the college level. If you want to accurately judge shooting among wing prospects, look for FT% and 3pt attempts per 100 pos (min of 8). All of the best shooters in the NBA have great FT% and lots of 3pt attempts. College 3s are different from NCAA and 3pt% alone doesn't translate into the NBA. IMO, shooting is 90% of the sport in the NBA. Team eFG% has a strong correlation to winning in the NBA.

What do you call a guard who can rebound, defend, and pass (sans shooting)?

A backup.

[Cuban Pete]

Hello everybody,

Tool: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com

I recently developed an NBA Draft Comparison tool that has gained a good amount of popularity on Twitter by several draft analysts

The tool retrieves similar physical, statistical (per40), and advanced stat comparisons for any player dating back to the 2000 NBA Draft based on their position

Note: Advanced stats only go back to the 2011 Draft and there are currently only limited physical comparisons for some of the 2020 prospects as the combine hasn't reported official measurements. Additionally, if you cannot find a player in the stats, visuals, or advanced pages you can enter their sports-reference url and the site will generate the comparisons then.

If you end up seeing this, any feedback/comments/suggestions that you have or would like me to add a feature to the website is something that I'd appreciate a whole lot. You can dm me here but preferable on twitter:youngwizzydfs and I will respond asap.

The experience is a lot better on desktop/laptop than mobile which is something I am working on right now

If you don't mind sharing the tool with your friends and people that would mean a whole lot as it could lead to potential donations to my site that will help keep it up! Been working on this for a few years now so it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride!
​

Hey,

This is kind of cool for what it is. It works.

If you're asking for feedback, IMO it would be useful to include player ages, and/or at least academic years (i.e. Freshman vs Senior). I would also replace steals/40 and blocks/40 with steals/foul and blocks/foul. I guess it would also be useful to include height and weight (better yet, combine results where available).

That all probably isn't easy and I'm not sure it would be worth your time, but age is a very important factor to consider when comparing collegiate production, and from a statistical standpoint I feel that foul efficiency tends to be a much more important indicator that it is typically given credit for.

The former is paramount. As for college class and eligibility, who cares. That has nothing to do with scouting an NBA prospect. This is why I don't like Obi Toppin or Cole Anthony. Toppin is TWO years older than his class, so he's a true senior playing in the A-10. Any GM who drafts him in high in the 1st round, should get together with Danny and Austin for some fudge brownies and Yahtzee.

[Cuban Pete]

Any fans of Immanuel Quickley?

He reminds me of a Louis Wiilliams. Incredible scoring instincts. Easy shot. Good handle and mid range game and a knock down FT shooter +90%.

He's a guy that I think would be a clear first round pick if we'd had a March Madness.

Seems like he could be a really nice addition to our bench.

He's a year older than his class so he's a true Junior. Having a terrible "freshman" year and having pedestrian assist rates despite being 6'3", 188 tells me he's at best, a mid to high 2nd round pick.

[Cuban Pete]

He is basically in the Josh Jackson, Marqueese Chris territory (minus the attitude issues).

Josh Jackson and Marquese Chriss, without the attitude issues, would be pretty solid.

I'd put him in Leon Powe territory.

Jackson maybe, he has flashed some things in Memphis were you shouldn't really give up on him.

Not Chriss, he should be out of the league, even if he shuts off the gangsta attitude.

Jackson is a cautionary tale. Good 3pt%, good DRB%, and elite steal rate made him eye candy in mock drafts. The reality was his 56.6 FT%, being a year older than his class (making him a true sophomore), and his average wing span at the combine. The last is telling. His steal rate was based on speed and quickness, rather than physical length. The former wears down from fatigue and injury. The NBA is a war of attrition, even within a single game. That's why I hate the shortish-stocky "tough as nails" guys Angie and Son prefer. I'll take lanky over stocky any day. (see Grant Williams/Brandon Clarke comps).

[bucknersrevenge]

Might have to start spamming this thread with Jahmi'us Ramsey stats and film as I did last year with Herro until I have converted you into my personal "draft this guy" robot army.

Herro was a better shooter. Ramsey's 64.1 FT% gives me pause (Justice Winslow shot 64% at Duke). You were correct in Herro. He was a great prospect that Danny didn't want to move up for. He and sonny boy Austin should have been sacked years ago. Shame on C's ownership to allow nepotism to dwell at such a critical level within the organization. I digress. That said, NEVER look at 3pt% at the college level. If you want to accurately judge shooting among wing prospects, look for FT% and 3pt attempts per 100 pos (min of 8). All of the best shooters in the NBA have great FT% and lots of 3pt attempts. College 3s are different from NCAA and 3pt% alone doesn't translate into the NBA. IMO, shooting is 90% of the sport in the NBA. Team eFG% has a strong correlation to winning in the NBA.

What do you call a guard who can rebound, defend, and pass (sans shooting)?

A backup.

In his defense, any player we draft is going to be a backup regardless of who they are. Brad will not start anyone over the 5 we have anyway.