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Recap on First round Predictions
Chicago in 5
Brooklyn in 6
Philly in 7
Indy in 5
GSW in 5
Denver in 5
Dallas in 5
Utah in 7
Results: 7-1
Round 2 Predictions
Pacers over Bulls in 6
Both teams are coming into the series healthy and the Luka Doncic show will be in full effect dominating Kemba.
Philly in 7
The Sim carries the 76ers into the Eastern Conference finals, Lonzo Ball and Ben Simmons put on a shooting clinic for their respective teams.
Dallas in 6
Denver's Cinderella story comes to an end in the second round, the defending champs are just too good especially with a bonafide Center in JV
GSW in 4
KD and Irving will be dominated by Lou Williams and company
Chicago in 5
Brooklyn in 6
Philly in 7
Indy in 5
GSW in 5
Denver in 5
Dallas in 5
Utah in 7
Results: 7-1
Round 2 Predictions
Pacers over Bulls in 6
Both teams are coming into the series healthy and the Luka Doncic show will be in full effect dominating Kemba.
Philly in 7
The Sim carries the 76ers into the Eastern Conference finals, Lonzo Ball and Ben Simmons put on a shooting clinic for their respective teams.
Dallas in 6
Denver's Cinderella story comes to an end in the second round, the defending champs are just too good especially with a bonafide Center in JV
GSW in 4
KD and Irving will be dominated by Lou Williams and company
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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PLAYOFF SCHEDULE CONFERENCE SEMIFINAL
April 27 (Saturday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 1
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 1
Portland @ Golden State GAME 1
Dallas @ Denver GAME 1
April 29 (Sunday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 2
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 2
Portland @ Golden State GAME 2
Dallas @ Denver GAME 2
May 1 (Monday)
Chicago @ Indiana GAME 3
Brooklyn @ Philadelphia GAME 3
Golden State @ Portland GAME 3
Denver @ Dallas GAME 3
May 3 (Tuesday)
Chicago @ Indiana GAME 4
Brooklyn @ Philadelphia GAME 4
Golden State @ Portland GAME 4
Denver @ Dallas GAME 4
May 5 (Wednesday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 5*
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 5*
Portland @ Golden State GAME 5*
Dallas @ Denver GAME 5*
May 7 (Thursday)
Chicago @ Indiana GAME 6*
Brooklyn @ Philadelphia GAME 6*
Golden State @ Portland GAME 6*
Denver @ Dallas GAME 6*
May 9 (Friday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 7*
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 7*
Portland @ Golden State GAME 7*
Dallas @ Denver GAME 7*
* If Necessary
April 27 (Saturday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 1
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 1
Portland @ Golden State GAME 1
Dallas @ Denver GAME 1
April 29 (Sunday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 2
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 2
Portland @ Golden State GAME 2
Dallas @ Denver GAME 2
May 1 (Monday)
Chicago @ Indiana GAME 3
Brooklyn @ Philadelphia GAME 3
Golden State @ Portland GAME 3
Denver @ Dallas GAME 3
May 3 (Tuesday)
Chicago @ Indiana GAME 4
Brooklyn @ Philadelphia GAME 4
Golden State @ Portland GAME 4
Denver @ Dallas GAME 4
May 5 (Wednesday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 5*
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 5*
Portland @ Golden State GAME 5*
Dallas @ Denver GAME 5*
May 7 (Thursday)
Chicago @ Indiana GAME 6*
Brooklyn @ Philadelphia GAME 6*
Golden State @ Portland GAME 6*
Denver @ Dallas GAME 6*
May 9 (Friday)
Indiana @ Chicago GAME 7*
Phladelphia @ Brooklyn GAME 7*
Portland @ Golden State GAME 7*
Dallas @ Denver GAME 7*
* If Necessary
All-Time Draft
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
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CONFERENCE SEMIFINAL MATCHUPS SEASON SERIES
EASTERN CONFERENCE
Chicago vs. Indiana
Chicago wins series 3-1
November 10- Chicago 116 Indiana 72
December 6- Chicago 123 Indiana 111
December 29- Chicago 122 Indiana 89
January 6- Indiana 118 Chicago 110
Brooklyn vs. Philadelphia
Brooklyn wins series 3-1
January 31- Philadelphia 109 Brooklyn 95
March 11- Brooklyn 106 Philadelphia 90
March 16- Brooklyn 134 Philadelphia 124
April 3- Brooklyn 111 Philadelphia 107
WESTERN CONFERENCE
Golden State vs. Portland
Golden State wins series 3-0
December 11- Golden State 130 Portland 115
February 14- Golden State 131 Portland 111
March 9- Golden State 138 Portland 125
Denver vs. Dallas
Series tied 2-2
December 4- Dallas 123 Denver 118 OT
January 16- Denver 118 Dallas 102
January 27- Denver 111 Dallas 94
March 6- Dallas 111 Denver 99
EASTERN CONFERENCE
Chicago vs. Indiana
Chicago wins series 3-1
November 10- Chicago 116 Indiana 72
December 6- Chicago 123 Indiana 111
December 29- Chicago 122 Indiana 89
January 6- Indiana 118 Chicago 110
Brooklyn vs. Philadelphia
Brooklyn wins series 3-1
January 31- Philadelphia 109 Brooklyn 95
March 11- Brooklyn 106 Philadelphia 90
March 16- Brooklyn 134 Philadelphia 124
April 3- Brooklyn 111 Philadelphia 107
WESTERN CONFERENCE
Golden State vs. Portland
Golden State wins series 3-0
December 11- Golden State 130 Portland 115
February 14- Golden State 131 Portland 111
March 9- Golden State 138 Portland 125
Denver vs. Dallas
Series tied 2-2
December 4- Dallas 123 Denver 118 OT
January 16- Denver 118 Dallas 102
January 27- Denver 111 Dallas 94
March 6- Dallas 111 Denver 99
All-Time Draft
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
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Like I said in my writeup
Brooklyn better wake up because Collins destroyed Bjelica. I know its nice to have his spacing but Collins is going to wreck him. Gotta start Faried in this series...
I think we need to see a heavy dose of Faried vs Collins (who had a great season).
Brooklyn better wake up because Collins destroyed Bjelica. I know its nice to have his spacing but Collins is going to wreck him. Gotta start Faried in this series...
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SIM Philly might fk around and win the title

It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
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3toheadmelo wrote:SIM Philly might fk around and win the title
And make us all look stupid
BAF Pacers
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
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Charlotte Hornets
SGA
Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
SGA
Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Jrue Holiday is a SIM beast
Game 2 tomorrow is a must win
Game 2 tomorrow is a must win
DENVER NUGGETS
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ochai Agbaji/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Josh Okogie/Javonte Green
Jakob Poeltl/Moussa Diabate/Karlo Matkovic
Ivica Zubac/Nick Richards/Oscar Tshiebwe
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ochai Agbaji/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Josh Okogie/Javonte Green
Jakob Poeltl/Moussa Diabate/Karlo Matkovic
Ivica Zubac/Nick Richards/Oscar Tshiebwe
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Chi has had my number all season. I’ll try to adjust and bounce back for game 2.
BAF Pacers
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
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BAF Pacers
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
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King of Canada wrote:

Chicago Bulls
PG: Kemba Walker / T.Rozier / B.Wannamaker
SG: Donte DiVincenzo / T.Ross / P.Connaughton
SF: Kawhi Leonard / R.O’Neale / Caleb Martin
PF: Draymond Green / B.Portis / A.Aminu
C: Jonas Valanciunas / M.Harrell / F.Kaminsky
PG: Kemba Walker / T.Rozier / B.Wannamaker
SG: Donte DiVincenzo / T.Ross / P.Connaughton
SF: Kawhi Leonard / R.O’Neale / Caleb Martin
PF: Draymond Green / B.Portis / A.Aminu
C: Jonas Valanciunas / M.Harrell / F.Kaminsky
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King of Canada wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:SIM Philly might fk around and win the title
And make us all look stupid
The robots always win
BAF Clippers
PG: Brunson/Coleworld
SG: CJ/Merrill
SF: Black/Thybulle
PF: Kuminga/Kenrich Williams
C: Looney/Sharpe
Hugo | DWade | Craig Porter | Dadiet | Minott

PG: Brunson/Coleworld
SG: CJ/Merrill
SF: Black/Thybulle
PF: Kuminga/Kenrich Williams
C: Looney/Sharpe
Hugo | DWade | Craig Porter | Dadiet | Minott
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Starting Payton hasn't been working but the curiosity has been there since the last series so I had to go for it. Back to the traditional lineup
DENVER NUGGETS
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ochai Agbaji/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Josh Okogie/Javonte Green
Jakob Poeltl/Moussa Diabate/Karlo Matkovic
Ivica Zubac/Nick Richards/Oscar Tshiebwe
Jamal Murray/Ty Jerome/Dante Exum
Zach Lavine/Ochai Agbaji/Corey Kispert
Aaron Gordon/Josh Okogie/Javonte Green
Jakob Poeltl/Moussa Diabate/Karlo Matkovic
Ivica Zubac/Nick Richards/Oscar Tshiebwe
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GM NewEra had this to say about their 2-0 start against the Blazers.
"Our guys are playing at a high level. We had a talk after the series against the Clippers. We discussed the areas in which I felt we needed to improve. I think our players know what time it is.
Q: What do you think about the way Westbrook has played so far? He seems to have really asserted himself..
A: He's been amazing for sure. No matter who they've thrown at him, he's been able to have his way. He is extremely locked in right now. You gotta remember, Russ was once the face of the Blazers. There's also some history there with KD. As you can imagine, he's playing with a chip on his shoulder, and I love it.
NewEra did make it known though that the series doesn't begin until the Warriors win on the road. "I've reminded our guys to remain focused on the goal at hand. This Blazers team and their GM Smash are here for a reason. Let's not forget that. They have two stars over there who can go off for 50 points on any given night. Smash has won at every level. He's a smart guy. You can bet they're strategizing, and so we have to be prepared for their next move. I told our guys, no matter what, don't get comfortable. Game 3 is the biggest game of your lives."
BAF- 2020 Champs | 2021 2k Champs

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Jarred Vanderbilt
PF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Powell, Hachimura, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Jarred Vanderbilt
PF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Powell, Hachimura, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Collins
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Down with robots!
BAF Clippers
PG: Brunson/Coleworld
SG: CJ/Merrill
SF: Black/Thybulle
PF: Kuminga/Kenrich Williams
C: Looney/Sharpe
Hugo | DWade | Craig Porter | Dadiet | Minott

PG: Brunson/Coleworld
SG: CJ/Merrill
SF: Black/Thybulle
PF: Kuminga/Kenrich Williams
C: Looney/Sharpe
Hugo | DWade | Craig Porter | Dadiet | Minott
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Capn'O wrote:Down with robots!
Yo it’s crazy bro. Philly is about start a whole movement lol. I’m good on that though. I like coaching.
BAF- 2020 Champs | 2021 2k Champs

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Jarred Vanderbilt
PF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Powell, Hachimura, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Jarred Vanderbilt
PF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Powell, Hachimura, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Collins
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NewEra wrote:Capn'O wrote:Down with robots!
Yo it’s crazy bro. Philly is about start a whole movement lol. I’m good on that though. I like coaching.
I think mecca just needed to make that small change because Collins ate bjelica alive in game 1. Once Faried played 30 mins Collins came back down to earth a bit.
I still like Brooklyn in that series, brooklyn just needed to switch up those matchups a bit.
4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
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mpharris36 wrote:NewEra wrote:Capn'O wrote:Down with robots!
Yo it’s crazy bro. Philly is about start a whole movement lol. I’m good on that though. I like coaching.
I think mecca just needed to make that small change because Collins ate bjelica alive in game 1. Once Faried played 30 mins Collins came back down to earth a bit.
I still like Brooklyn in that series, brooklyn just needed to switch up those matchups a bit.
Faried cant miss a shot, kind of **** that the SIM gave him God mode status
Charlotte Hornets
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
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Mitch Robinson
SGA
Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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bringbackhoffa wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NewEra wrote:Yo it’s crazy bro. Philly is about start a whole movement lol. I’m good on that though. I like coaching.
I think mecca just needed to make that small change because Collins ate bjelica alive in game 1. Once Faried played 30 mins Collins came back down to earth a bit.
I still like Brooklyn in that series, brooklyn just needed to switch up those matchups a bit.
Faried cant miss a shot, kind of **** that the SIM gave him God mode status
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4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
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mpharris36 wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
I think mecca just needed to make that small change because Collins ate bjelica alive in game 1. Once Faried played 30 mins Collins came back down to earth a bit.
I still like Brooklyn in that series, brooklyn just needed to switch up those matchups a bit.
Faried cant miss a shot, kind of **** that the SIM gave him God mode status
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Every move I made in this past off-season was from the perspective of the SIM. I knew the SIM mods probably had casual BBIQ's, thus would pump up veterans/washed up scrub's stats, so I just ate on them on 1 year deals as I knew I'd blow the team up after this season anyway.
Faried ended up being the jackpot hit. I kept his minutes low all season because I didn't think he can handle a full load, but it's playoffs, so I'm taking him off the bench along with DJJ for a new look.
Here's my new lineup:
PG: Ben Simmons(40) - Trey Burke(8)
SG: Vic Oladipo(40) - Trey Burke(8)
SF: Derrick Jones Jr.(20) - Caris LeVert(28)
PF: Kenneth Faried (38) - Derrick Jones Jr(10)
C: Joel Embiid(40) - Nemanja Bjelica(8)
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Milwaukee Bucks (2025)
PG - Dylan Harper - DLo
SG - Jaden Ivey - Ja'Kobe Walter - Bones Hyland
SF - Jaylen Brown - Terrace Mann
PF - Tobias Harris - Sam Hauser
C - Thomas Sorber
2019 & 2020 Eastern Conference Champion
Milwaukee Bucks (2025)
PG - Dylan Harper - DLo
SG - Jaden Ivey - Ja'Kobe Walter - Bones Hyland
SF - Jaylen Brown - Terrace Mann
PF - Tobias Harris - Sam Hauser
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