Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

[Hugi Mancura]

Some history. In early days of UFC there was no weight classes. First two tournaments were won by Royce Gracie who is same size as McGregor and he beat trained fighters who were same size as Zion. So if people who have trained fighter loses to smaller fighter who has better technique what hope does Zion have? Sure McGregor is a boxer more than ground fighter, but he does know his ground game too. Two leg takedown and fight is on the ground and there size doesn't matter, only skill, and Zion has zero skill. It's like just born calf versus adult tiger.

Even if it would be a standing fight would Zion know how to receive a hit. One hit to the stomach area and Zion is out of breath. One or two leg kicks and Zion can't walk anymore. Honestly what people think to even have this conversation.

Would Hong Man Choi (the tallest fighter in those video's) have any hope playing basketball agains Steph Curry? Well, basketball is a game where size matters, and he is much taller than Steph. Probably all here would say he have zero hope, but why same people believe that somehow basketball players when they chance sports would dominate that sports superstar's... Yeah, basketball players are gods of sport.

If Zion would have mma training one or two month then he probably could learn how to defend himself and get a chance to throw that one lucky punch.

[KokoKaizer]

Not MMA but this is the best (for me) in the Small vs Giant !

Guess who wins

Watch on YouTube

[HeartBreakKid]

Not MMA but this is the best (for me) in the Small vs Giant !

Guess who wins

Watch on YouTube

crazy finish

[Sign5]

Lol at the gap in the poll. They have weight classes for a reason. More times than not Zion would just need to take hold and break him. Its not like zion is slow, unathletic and lumbering either.

[Lepramaniac]

Lol at the gap in the poll. They have weight classes for a reason. More times than not Zion would just need to take hold and break him. Its not like zion is slow, unathletic and lumbering either.

They have weight classes among professional fighters, but Zion has no training or fighting skills whatsoever. LOL al people who think a guy who has never trained for fighting in his life can beat one of the best MMA fighters ever. It would be like saying some 7 foot guy who never played basketball can beat Stephen Curry in a pickup game just because he's way taller.

[big-shot-ROB]

6 pages and I still don't know how anyone hasn't suggested what would happen if instead of Zion, McGregor was fighting Shaq

[Dutchball97]

If Zion trained MMA for a few months then he'd beat McGregor easily but as it stands right now we're looking at a championship level MMA fighter vs an untrained guy.

[KokoKaizer]

If Zion trained MMA for a few months then he'd beat McGregor easily but as it stands right now we're looking at a championship level MMA fighter vs an untrained guy.

[Capn'O]

6 pages and I still don't know how anyone hasn't suggested what would happen if instead of Zion, McGregor was fighting Shaq

Or shown the video of older Charles Barkley fighting prime Shaq. Chuck knew how to fight a bit and put Shaq on his ass.

[ICEibuPROfen]

LOL this thread cannot be serious.One oblique kick from Conor and Zion's knees are done for rest of his life.

[j-ragg]

IF Zion had a basic concept of grappling it might not be so bad for him. But standing up he'd get picked apart. And with no training he wouldn't know what to do on the ground even if he got Conor there.

[whitehops]

if serge ibaka can't land a punch against all the players he's swung at (which are standing targets), i have no idea how on earth zion would land any kind of meaningful blow on mcgregor.

assuming zion has no fighting experience and just has his general size, athleticism and coordination going against mcgregor, i'd give zion about a 0.1% chance of winning.

[Bigfactsstackz]

Lol Pure Size will always matter in a street fight .

And 9/10 multiple people are present at a street fight .. Connor would never be allowed to put Zion in any type of arm bar without someone stepping in

[Buckets22]

Lol Pure Size will always matter in a street fight .

And 9/10 multiple people are present at a street fight .. Connor would never be allowed to put Zion in any type of arm bar without someone stepping in

That is a very good point. I guess that the crew that carries guns or at least knives will win the fight

[Mauro Pedrosa]

The quality is quite terrible but here you see former UFC journeyman Roger Huerta beating up a much bigger dude in a street fight

https://youtu.be/q9JpeKKBScA

Conor would beat him 9/10 times, but there’s always a chance a hail mary lands

[limbo]

IF Zion had a basic concept of grappling it might not be so bad for him. But standing up he'd get picked apart. And with no training he wouldn't know what to do on the ground even if he got Conor there.

Yeah, i don't know why people act like this would end up being some sort of strategical stand up sparring contest or something... Zion doesn't have the expertise to outfight McGregor on a technical level. His best bet would be just to charge at him (while hoping he doesn't catch a critical blow in the process) and hug slam McGregor to the back alley concrete full force (which is a teeny bit different than landing on a UFC type canvas/mat) and then just wail at Conor while down and use his massive weight advantage as leverage so Conor can't out-wrestle him and gain good positioning on the ground. Just go all out and hope you do enough damage before tiring out.

I see too many people looking at this from a scope of a 'professional' match or something. I know MMA is a pretty liberal form of fighting in terms of what you can get away with, but there's still some basic rules that apply. Street fights have no code, you can punch or kick someone in the nuts, pull at their clothes for leverage, you can use objects in your vicinity to your advantage and like i said before, the ground you fight on probably won't be a nice padded bouncy canvas that was made to absorb contact but a rough, maybe even razor sharp hard concrete (worst case scenario is there's also glass on the ground or a sidewalk you can get your head split on) so slamming someone's body on the ground in those conditions is like exponentially worse and more likely to result in a serious injury than doing it in a professional fight.

So now the question is, what can McGregor do to avoid this when Zion, with his 6'6'', 290 pound frame, starts charging towards him? Maybe he can slip his way out of his grip just long enough to land enough precision shots to his body to the point where Zion is critically wounded. And since Zion, i suspect, isn't exactly the the most versed at protecting himself from these blows, as he isn't a professional fighter, it's entirely possible that's what happens. But if that doesn't happen, and Zion somehow gets a hold of Conor, i don't see how Conor can avoid getting slammed. I'm sure he could apply certain techniques to make it challenging for Zion to grab/lift/throw him on his head, in that order, but at what point does a 100-pound difference come in play in this case? I don't know. I haven't actually been body slammed by someone bigger and 100 pounds heavier than me yet, while trying to prevent that, but then again, i'm also not a professional fighter, so maybe there's something you can do to circumvent the heavier dude just using his pure unadulterated weight advantage and leverage that to his benefit.

But yeah, that's about the extent of Zion's chances. Pretty sure if he tries making it a punching/kicking match he loses, obviously. Even in a straight up grappling match i don't see him doing well. He'd need to do serious damage to Conor before getting him on the ground (like with a slam, probably his best option) and then use the fact that Conor is hurt and not properly set up to deliver the finishing blows en route to a knock out. If Conor can avoid getting hurt by a slam, and get into proper position to use his grappling then Zion probably gets outskilled and eventually put in a choke or just eats too many arms/knees to the face.

[SpiderX1016]

There's no chance for Zion. It's like the opposite of asking who will win in a dunk contest?

[j-ragg]

IF Zion had a basic concept of grappling it might not be so bad for him. But standing up he'd get picked apart. And with no training he wouldn't know what to do on the ground even if he got Conor there.

Yeah, i don't know why people act like this would end up being some sort of strategical stand up sparring contest or something... Zion doesn't have the expertise to outfight McGregor on a technical level. His best bet would be just to charge at him (while hoping he doesn't catch a critical blow in the process) and hug slam McGregor to the back alley concrete full force (which is a teeny bit different than landing on a UFC type canvas/mat) and then just wail at Conor while down and use his massive weight advantage as leverage so Conor can't out-wrestle him and gain good positioning on the ground. Just go all out and hope you do enough damage before tiring out.

I agree. Most street fights are sloppy dudes on the ground trying to get position that don't know what they're doing. If Zion had some limited training on how to get dominant position on the ground/how to defend basic subs then I doubt Conor would last on the ground.

Conor is so fast though on his feet I think he'd wear him out quickly (if it were to stay standing for some reason).

[Pelon chingon]

Lol at the gap in the poll. They have weight classes for a reason. More times than not Zion would just need to take hold and break him. Its not like zion is slow, unathletic and lumbering either.

Show some respect for prize fighters, You obviously have no idea the amount of dedicated they have for their craft. McGregor by submission that is if Zion doesn't get slept in the initial exchange.

[bisme37]

"They have weight classes for a reason."

Yes, and they also don't let people with no MMA training into the UFC for a reason.

You can tell who understands the technique involved in high level pro fighting and who's just thinking back to scuffles they saw in 7th grade. Bear hugs lol.