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Post#61 » by No-Man » Sun May 17, 2020 10:37 am

How in the world is Jalen Green underrated when he is ranked 1st in a class that he has no business to be that high in?

He is a tier below Cade as a prospect
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Post#62 » by big-shot-ROB » Sun May 17, 2020 8:54 pm

clyde21 wrote:was obvious but McClung officially withdrew from the 20 draft and will transfer


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Post#63 » by getrichordie » Sun May 17, 2020 9:38 pm

Really like what I've been seeing from Boston. Honestly, I could see a scenario where he ends up better than Green.

Really liking Badji and Askew. Greg Brown is fun to watch. Hope he develops a real shot. His form is weird.
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Post#64 » by Marcus » Sun May 17, 2020 10:30 pm

getrichordie wrote:Really like what I've been seeing from Boston. Honestly, I could see a scenario where he ends up better than Green.

Really liking Badji and Askew. Greg Brown is fun to watch. Hope he develops a real shot. His form is weird.


My only problem with Boston is the shake. He creates enough separation to get his jumper off but it's usually over shorter players, no blowbys, no iso breakdowns, just lightly contested jumpers. I'm curious to see how he fairs when he has similar height defenders to shoot over.
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Post#65 » by getrichordie » Sun May 17, 2020 11:07 pm

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getrichordie wrote:Really like what I've been seeing from Boston. Honestly, I could see a scenario where he ends up better than Green.

Really liking Badji and Askew. Greg Brown is fun to watch. Hope he develops a real shot. His form is weird.


My only problem with Boston is the shake. He creates enough separation to get his jumper off but it's usually over shorter players, no blowbys, no iso breakdowns, just lightly contested jumpers. I'm curious to see how he fairs when he has similar height defenders to shoot over.


I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen a ton of him, but from what I have seen, his potential excites me. I know it gets thrown around a lot, but he really reminds me of a smaller Durant. His shooting form, his moves, all remind of me Durant.
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Post#66 » by Marcus » Sun May 17, 2020 11:11 pm

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getrichordie wrote:Really like what I've been seeing from Boston. Honestly, I could see a scenario where he ends up better than Green.

Really liking Badji and Askew. Greg Brown is fun to watch. Hope he develops a real shot. His form is weird.


My only problem with Boston is the shake. He creates enough separation to get his jumper off but it's usually over shorter players, no blowbys, no iso breakdowns, just lightly contested jumpers. I'm curious to see how he fairs when he has similar height defenders to shoot over.


I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen a ton of him, but from what I have seen, his potential excites me. I know it gets thrown around a lot, but he really reminds me of a smaller Durant. His shooting form, his moves, all remind of me Durant.


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Post#67 » by clyde21 » Sun May 17, 2020 11:13 pm

Fischella wrote:How in the world is Jalen Green underrated when he is ranked 1st in a class that he has no business to be that high in?

He is a tier below Cade as a prospect


he's one of the best prospects to come out of HS in the last 10 years, he's that good, that's why he's been underrated.
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Post#68 » by getrichordie » Sun May 17, 2020 11:16 pm

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getrichordie wrote:
Marcus wrote:
My only problem with Boston is the shake. He creates enough separation to get his jumper off but it's usually over shorter players, no blowbys, no iso breakdowns, just lightly contested jumpers. I'm curious to see how he fairs when he has similar height defenders to shoot over.


I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen a ton of him, but from what I have seen, his potential excites me. I know it gets thrown around a lot, but he really reminds me of a smaller Durant. His shooting form, his moves, all remind of me Durant.


Ton of Sierra Canyon games on YouTube. Watch him, Ziare Williams, and Amari Bailey. It's a good time.


Will do. Watch this at 7:56



and is Amari Bailey a 2021 draft guy?
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Post#69 » by Marcus » Sun May 17, 2020 11:25 pm

getrichordie wrote:
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getrichordie wrote:
I'll take your word for it. I haven't seen a ton of him, but from what I have seen, his potential excites me. I know it gets thrown around a lot, but he really reminds me of a smaller Durant. His shooting form, his moves, all remind of me Durant.


Ton of Sierra Canyon games on YouTube. Watch him, Ziare Williams, and Amari Bailey. It's a good time.


Will do. Watch this at 7:56



and is Amari Bailey a 2021 draft guy?


Yeah I've seen the mixtape. He's smooth for sure. But that's open space over pursuing undisciplined defense in that clip.

I think Bailey is 22 or 23
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Post#70 » by getrichordie » Sun May 17, 2020 11:35 pm

Marcus wrote:
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Ton of Sierra Canyon games on YouTube. Watch him, Ziare Williams, and Amari Bailey. It's a good time.


Will do. Watch this at 7:56



and is Amari Bailey a 2021 draft guy?


Yeah I've seen the mixtape. He's smooth for sure. But that's open space over pursuing undisciplined defense in that clip.

I think Bailey is 22 or 23


Just watched some Ziaire and IDK, he definitely seems a little stronger and flashed some driving potential, but I don't see anything special about him. Boston, on the other hand, has great size for a 2, and looks like a much more natural scorer.
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Post#71 » by Marcus » Sun May 17, 2020 11:51 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Marcus wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Will do. Watch this at 7:56



and is Amari Bailey a 2021 draft guy?


Yeah I've seen the mixtape. He's smooth for sure. But that's open space over pursuing undisciplined defense in that clip.

I think Bailey is 22 or 23


Just watched some Ziaire and IDK, he definitely seems a little stronger and flashed some driving potential, but I don't see anything special about him. Boston, on the other hand, has great size for a 2, and looks like a much more natural scorer.


Love Boston's shot and confidence in it. Just want to see separation from longer defenders and the ability to drive and not use that confidence as a crutch.
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Post#72 » by getrichordie » Sun May 17, 2020 11:58 pm

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getrichordie wrote:
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Yeah I've seen the mixtape. He's smooth for sure. But that's open space over pursuing undisciplined defense in that clip.

I think Bailey is 22 or 23


Just watched some Ziaire and IDK, he definitely seems a little stronger and flashed some driving potential, but I don't see anything special about him. Boston, on the other hand, has great size for a 2, and looks like a much more natural scorer.


Love Boston's shot and confidence in it. Just want to see separation from longer defenders and the ability to drive and not use that confidence as a crutch.


I think he will get there. His footwork looks pretty good for a kid.
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Post#73 » by Marcus » Mon May 18, 2020 12:09 am

getrichordie wrote:
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getrichordie wrote:
Just watched some Ziaire and IDK, he definitely seems a little stronger and flashed some driving potential, but I don't see anything special about him. Boston, on the other hand, has great size for a 2, and looks like a much more natural scorer.


Love Boston's shot and confidence in it. Just want to see separation from longer defenders and the ability to drive and not use that confidence as a crutch.


I think he will get there. His footwork looks pretty good for a kid.


Oh I don't doubt that at all. Kid has plenty of room to grow. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up looking better at UK than my guy T Cleezy just off a better shot alone. I'm not saying he can't get there just saying I want to see it.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#74 » by No-Man » Mon May 18, 2020 7:31 am

clyde21 wrote:
Fischella wrote:How in the world is Jalen Green underrated when he is ranked 1st in a class that he has no business to be that high in?

He is a tier below Cade as a prospect


he's one of the best prospects to come out of HS in the last 10 years, he's that good, that's why he's been underrated.

He is not close to Kyrie, Davis, Parker, Simmons, Porter, Zion, Cade (best prospects in HS from the last decade)

So it depends on how broad your definition of "best prospects out of HS in the last 10 years" is I guess
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#75 » by clyde21 » Mon May 18, 2020 7:34 am

better than Parker, Simmons, Porter and Cade out of HS for sure, on par with Kyrie, worse than Davis and Zion
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Post#76 » by clyde21 » Mon May 18, 2020 7:35 am

Zion
Davis

Green
Kyrie

Cade

Porter
Simmons
Parker
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Post#77 » by No-Man » Mon May 18, 2020 7:55 am

clyde21 wrote:better than Parker, Simmons, Porter and Cade out of HS for sure, on par with Kyrie, worse than Davis and Zion

Dude, Cade is so clearly better, it's not even close

Porter and Simmons were very dominant, Porter was a monster in HS, Jabari to me was clearly better too, I mean as skilled as Green, better feel, and he is +6'8 230 and athletic (obv the knees popped but that's after the fact)
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Post#78 » by Duke4life831 » Mon May 18, 2020 8:19 am

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getrichordie wrote:Really like what I've been seeing from Boston. Honestly, I could see a scenario where he ends up better than Green.

Really liking Badji and Askew. Greg Brown is fun to watch. Hope he develops a real shot. His form is weird.


My only problem with Boston is the shake. He creates enough separation to get his jumper off but it's usually over shorter players, no blowbys, no iso breakdowns, just lightly contested jumpers. I'm curious to see how he fairs when he has similar height defenders to shoot over.


Agreed with this. I think Boston is a good prospect so dont get me wrong, but I dont have him as a star prospect because of this reason. A guy with his slight of build, he better have some kind of thing that gives him an advantage in the half court with the ball in his hands. Im not sure he has that. Compare him to say Brandon Ingram who was another super slim guy with similar athleticism. Ingram had that super freakish length and really knew how to use it even at that age. Boston doesnt have that length to fall back on, and Im not sure he has that shake to consistently get open shots in the half court against strong athletic players.
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Re: 2021 NBA Draft 

Post#79 » by No-Man » Mon May 18, 2020 8:30 am

I love BJ's game, I hate his body, has a terrible frame, kinda stiff, dunno, I wish it translates because his skill level, physicality, overall talent, is just really good and enjoyable

Ingram is way larger/longer
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Post#80 » by clyde21 » Wed May 20, 2020 11:17 pm

super early BB for me, just brain storming what tiers would look like to me at this point

1. JALEN GREEN

2. JONATHAN KUMINGA
3. CADE CUNNINGHAM
4. EVAN MOBLEY

5. SCOTTIE LEWIS
6. USMAN GARUBA
7. TRAYCE JACKSON-DAVIS
8. JALEN JOHNSON
9. OSCAR TSHIEBWE
10. ZIAIRE WILLIAMS

11. WILL RICHARDSON
12. ISAIAH TODD
13. ROKO PRKACIN
14. MOUSSA DIABATE
15. N'FALY DANTE
16. JOE WIESKAMP
17. SCOTTIE BARNES
18. BJ BOSTON
19. BRYAN ANTOINE
20. OCHAI AGBAJI
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